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	<title>Comments on: So Much Radioactive Waste, So Little Time</title>
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		<title>By: How To Run A Car On Water</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/06/04/so-much-radioactive-waste-so-little-time-2/#comment-1587</link>
		<dc:creator>How To Run A Car On Water</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;How To Run A Car On Water&lt;/strong&gt;

How did you manage to come up with this post? I would like to know.</description>
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<p>How did you manage to come up with this post? I would like to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauran</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/06/04/so-much-radioactive-waste-so-little-time-2/#comment-1559</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Lauran&lt;/strong&gt;

Life is either a daring adventure or nothing. To keep our faces toward change and behave like free spirits in the presence of fate is strength undefeatable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Lauran</strong></p>
<p>Life is either a daring adventure or nothing. To keep our faces toward change and behave like free spirits in the presence of fate is strength undefeatable.</p>
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		<title>By: Top Nuclear Stories (July 3rd-7th) &#124; The Energy Net</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/06/04/so-much-radioactive-waste-so-little-time-2/#comment-890</link>
		<dc:creator>Top Nuclear Stories (July 3rd-7th) &#124; The Energy Net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 03:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/06/04/so-much-radioactive-waste-so-little-time-2/#comment-890</guid>
		<description>[...] So Much Radioactive Waste, So Little Time &#124; 80beats &#124; Discover Magazine Itâ€™s been a big news week for nuclear waste, with most of the attention going to the Department of Energyâ€™s announcement that it has at long last submitted an application to open a nuclear waste repository in Nevadaâ€™s Yucca Mountain. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] So Much Radioactive Waste, So Little Time | 80beats | Discover Magazine Itâ€™s been a big news week for nuclear waste, with most of the attention going to the Department of Energyâ€™s announcement that it has at long last submitted an application to open a nuclear waste repository in Nevadaâ€™s Yucca Mountain. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Top Nuclear Stories (June 30th - July 3rd) &#124; The Energy Net</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/06/04/so-much-radioactive-waste-so-little-time-2/#comment-400</link>
		<dc:creator>Top Nuclear Stories (June 30th - July 3rd) &#124; The Energy Net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/06/04/so-much-radioactive-waste-so-little-time-2/#comment-400</guid>
		<description>[...] So Much Radioactive Waste, So Little Time &#124; 80beats &#124; Discover Magazine Itâ€™s been a big news week for nuclear waste, with most of the attention going to the Department of Energyâ€™s announcement that it has at long last submitted an application to open a nuclear waste repository in Nevadaâ€™s Yucca Mountain. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] So Much Radioactive Waste, So Little Time | 80beats | Discover Magazine Itâ€™s been a big news week for nuclear waste, with most of the attention going to the Department of Energyâ€™s announcement that it has at long last submitted an application to open a nuclear waste repository in Nevadaâ€™s Yucca Mountain. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Eliza Strickland</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/06/04/so-much-radioactive-waste-so-little-time-2/#comment-254</link>
		<dc:creator>Eliza Strickland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/06/04/so-much-radioactive-waste-so-little-time-2/#comment-254</guid>
		<description>While uranium 233 isn't commonly used in nuclear reactors or in nuclear weapons, the U.S. government did experiment with it in the '50s. The stash at Oak Ridge is left over from those days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While uranium 233 isn&#8217;t commonly used in nuclear reactors or in nuclear weapons, the U.S. government did experiment with it in the &#8217;50s. The stash at Oak Ridge is left over from those days.</p>
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		<title>By: Susanne Vandenbosch</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/06/04/so-much-radioactive-waste-so-little-time-2/#comment-145</link>
		<dc:creator>Susanne Vandenbosch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/06/04/so-much-radioactive-waste-so-little-time-2/#comment-145</guid>
		<description>The isotope of concern is U-235 not U-233.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The isotope of concern is U-235 not U-233.</p>
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		<title>By: Where to put nuclear waste? (and why make more of it?) &#171; My Weblog</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/06/04/so-much-radioactive-waste-so-little-time-2/#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>Where to put nuclear waste? (and why make more of it?) &#171; My Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 04:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/06/04/so-much-radioactive-waste-so-little-time-2/#comment-121</guid>
		<description>[...] So Much Radioactive Waste, So Little Time &#124; 80beats &#124; Discover Magazine [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] So Much Radioactive Waste, So Little Time | 80beats | Discover Magazine [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Alvin Heskett</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/06/04/so-much-radioactive-waste-so-little-time-2/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>Alvin Heskett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/06/04/so-much-radioactive-waste-so-little-time-2/#comment-115</guid>
		<description>I’d like to offer a comment about the statement by Eileen McCabe; she said there are “proven allegations of fraud in the hydrological reports”.

That statement is factually correct in that there are allegations of fraud. That is a fact. 

There was however, no fraud involved with the license submitted to the NRC. A congressional investigation and a 22 million dollar reworking of data contributed by two GIS hydrologists document that assertion.

The hydrologists in question wrote each other emails complaining of the onerous record keeping requirements involved in detailing when certain programs were installed on their computers. 

They stated they would keep two sets of records, one to show inspectors and their real data logs. Since the Yucca Mountain Project has been meticulous about their science and engineering efforts, in their in house reviews of email records, these particular emails were discovered, the project exposed the e-mail’s existence and reworked the entire body of work these two scientists were involved in. 

That is why people like Ms. McCabe can state truthfully that there are “proven allegations of fraud”.  The facts show these were stupid emails between complaining coworkers; their data was never included in the license application submitted. When their data was compared with the reworked data it was almost exactly the same.

Another point: If the waste remains where it is, which is what the anti-Yucca forces propose, we have about 5 inches of concrete between the waste and exposure to the elements. This might be OK for the next 300 years. The half life of these materials is considerably longer than that. With the addition of the repository, we add about 1000 feet of volcanic tuff as an additional barrier over time. If we use engineered materials to create canisters to place the waste inside the mountain, we gain more time. If we place “drip shields” above the canisters, inside the mountain, we gain even more time still.

I point this out because opponents to this project like to ladle out bromides and straw men scenarios, but have neither the science, nor the expertise to dispute what has been meticulously documented in the license application submitted to the NRC. This is a serious problem that has been seriously documented by a team of world class scientists and engineers working to the highest levels of accountability. They should be lauded for their efforts to solve this pressing problem rather than vilified by a lazy press which repeats accusations as facts.


Alvin Heskett</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’d like to offer a comment about the statement by Eileen McCabe; she said there are “proven allegations of fraud in the hydrological reports”.</p>
<p>That statement is factually correct in that there are allegations of fraud. That is a fact. </p>
<p>There was however, no fraud involved with the license submitted to the NRC. A congressional investigation and a 22 million dollar reworking of data contributed by two GIS hydrologists document that assertion.</p>
<p>The hydrologists in question wrote each other emails complaining of the onerous record keeping requirements involved in detailing when certain programs were installed on their computers. </p>
<p>They stated they would keep two sets of records, one to show inspectors and their real data logs. Since the Yucca Mountain Project has been meticulous about their science and engineering efforts, in their in house reviews of email records, these particular emails were discovered, the project exposed the e-mail’s existence and reworked the entire body of work these two scientists were involved in. </p>
<p>That is why people like Ms. McCabe can state truthfully that there are “proven allegations of fraud”.  The facts show these were stupid emails between complaining coworkers; their data was never included in the license application submitted. When their data was compared with the reworked data it was almost exactly the same.</p>
<p>Another point: If the waste remains where it is, which is what the anti-Yucca forces propose, we have about 5 inches of concrete between the waste and exposure to the elements. This might be OK for the next 300 years. The half life of these materials is considerably longer than that. With the addition of the repository, we add about 1000 feet of volcanic tuff as an additional barrier over time. If we use engineered materials to create canisters to place the waste inside the mountain, we gain more time. If we place “drip shields” above the canisters, inside the mountain, we gain even more time still.</p>
<p>I point this out because opponents to this project like to ladle out bromides and straw men scenarios, but have neither the science, nor the expertise to dispute what has been meticulously documented in the license application submitted to the NRC. This is a serious problem that has been seriously documented by a team of world class scientists and engineers working to the highest levels of accountability. They should be lauded for their efforts to solve this pressing problem rather than vilified by a lazy press which repeats accusations as facts.</p>
<p>Alvin Heskett</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen McCabe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/06/04/so-much-radioactive-waste-so-little-time-2/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>Eileen McCabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/06/04/so-much-radioactive-waste-so-little-time-2/#comment-96</guid>
		<description>There is no way to know whether the shields would be needed, since we cannot predict how the geology or climate of this area might change over 10,000, let alone the million years of the radiation standard proposal under consideration. The area is geologically active, including a fault line running under the proposed site for the cask staging area. There are proven allegations of fraud in the hydrological reports, and the NRC is still trying to determine what method to use for the hydrological studies they will consider.  The application has just been submitted, yet the criteria for judging it are not complete, and media coverage suggests the repository has already been built, when there is only 1 test tunnel. The project has been an absurd and dangerous example of design-as-you-go, and fit the facts to meet the objectives.

Yes, it's Gilinsky, and he served from 1975-1984.  Former Commissioner Peter Bradford who server from 1977-1982 says the following:

"The nuclear power that we have invariably gotten from the Washington sausage machine demands licenses without an impartial licensing process, public acquiescence without public involvement, spent fuel without a waste repository, multi-billion dollar projects without analysis of alternatives, nearly separated plutonium (per the Global Nuclear Energy Partnership) without adequate safeguards -- in short, a renaissance without masterpieces."

This doesn't give me much faith in the regulation or development of any nuclear projects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no way to know whether the shields would be needed, since we cannot predict how the geology or climate of this area might change over 10,000, let alone the million years of the radiation standard proposal under consideration. The area is geologically active, including a fault line running under the proposed site for the cask staging area. There are proven allegations of fraud in the hydrological reports, and the NRC is still trying to determine what method to use for the hydrological studies they will consider.  The application has just been submitted, yet the criteria for judging it are not complete, and media coverage suggests the repository has already been built, when there is only 1 test tunnel. The project has been an absurd and dangerous example of design-as-you-go, and fit the facts to meet the objectives.</p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s Gilinsky, and he served from 1975-1984.  Former Commissioner Peter Bradford who server from 1977-1982 says the following:</p>
<p>&#8220;The nuclear power that we have invariably gotten from the Washington sausage machine demands licenses without an impartial licensing process, public acquiescence without public involvement, spent fuel without a waste repository, multi-billion dollar projects without analysis of alternatives, nearly separated plutonium (per the Global Nuclear Energy Partnership) without adequate safeguards &#8212; in short, a renaissance without masterpieces.&#8221;</p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t give me much faith in the regulation or development of any nuclear projects.</p>
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		<title>By: G.R.L. Cowan, H2 energy fan 'til ~1996</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/06/04/so-much-radioactive-waste-so-little-time-2/#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>G.R.L. Cowan, H2 energy fan 'til ~1996</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the former NRC commissioner you mention is named Gilinsky, not Ga- as above.

It shows how much power the oil and gas lobby once had that he could ever have been in that position. The drip shields that supposedly will someday be put over spent fuel rods would be useless in the early decades, when the stuff self-heats enough to keep itself dry. Bit of a deceitful omission on his part.

Of course, they would not really be needed, ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the former NRC commissioner you mention is named Gilinsky, not Ga- as above.</p>
<p>It shows how much power the oil and gas lobby once had that he could ever have been in that position. The drip shields that supposedly will someday be put over spent fuel rods would be useless in the early decades, when the stuff self-heats enough to keep itself dry. Bit of a deceitful omission on his part.</p>
<p>Of course, they would not really be needed, ever.</p>
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