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	<title>Comments on: Olympic Pistol Shooter Used Anti-Trembling Drug to Steady His Hands</title>
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		<title>By: MilkMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>MilkMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 06:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JR, you&#039;ve just proven beyond the shadow of a doubt, that you are a liberal idiot. STFU and go back to watching your gay animal porn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JR, you&#8217;ve just proven beyond the shadow of a doubt, that you are a liberal idiot. STFU and go back to watching your gay animal porn.</p>
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		<title>By: Parashooter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parashooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 04:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HB. Beta Blockers can NOT be substituted for a Calcium Channel Blocker in people that have a damaged heart muscle form a heart attack (documented on the web).

Eliza. Yes Beta Blockers are on the banned drug list put out by World Anti Doping Association WADA but the WADA web site says that a TUE may be granted if the 3 conditions are met. 1) no significant advantage is gained over a competitor. 2) There is no alternative drug. &amp; 3) withholding the drug would cause significant heath risks to the athlete.

The effect of a Beta blocker lowers the heart rate. So if 2 health athletes compete in shooting for example and one takes a beta blocker he will have a lower heart rate and an advantage. He would be cheating. However if a person that has had a heart attack and is on a beta-blocker, which is controlling his heart rate but not below that of the healthy athlete,  and was shooting against a healthy shooter with a normal heart rate, would that be an advantage over the healthy athlete? I dont think it would.

Anti doping is there to catch cheats, but in doing so sometimes it also chucks out the athlete with a genuine medical condition. This should not happen if WADA follow their own rules and the athlete with medical documentation and testing can meet the 3 criteria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HB. Beta Blockers can NOT be substituted for a Calcium Channel Blocker in people that have a damaged heart muscle form a heart attack (documented on the web).</p>
<p>Eliza. Yes Beta Blockers are on the banned drug list put out by World Anti Doping Association WADA but the WADA web site says that a TUE may be granted if the 3 conditions are met. 1) no significant advantage is gained over a competitor. 2) There is no alternative drug. &#038; 3) withholding the drug would cause significant heath risks to the athlete.</p>
<p>The effect of a Beta blocker lowers the heart rate. So if 2 health athletes compete in shooting for example and one takes a beta blocker he will have a lower heart rate and an advantage. He would be cheating. However if a person that has had a heart attack and is on a beta-blocker, which is controlling his heart rate but not below that of the healthy athlete,  and was shooting against a healthy shooter with a normal heart rate, would that be an advantage over the healthy athlete? I dont think it would.</p>
<p>Anti doping is there to catch cheats, but in doing so sometimes it also chucks out the athlete with a genuine medical condition. This should not happen if WADA follow their own rules and the athlete with medical documentation and testing can meet the 3 criteria.</p>
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		<title>By: HB</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/08/18/olympic-pistol-shooter-used-anti-trembling-drug-to-steady-his-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-20141</link>
		<dc:creator>HB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Other drugs that are not prohibited in sport can be substituted for Beta-blockers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Other drugs that are not prohibited in sport can be substituted for Beta-blockers.</p>
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		<title>By: HB</title>
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		<dc:creator>HB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beta-blockers can be substituted for drugs that are not prohibited in sport.

The shooting disciplines that make up those in the Olympic/Commonwealth Games are precision target sports.  Most people do not have the opportunity to watch these sports on the televised Olympics.  Check out the link below if you&#039;re interested in what the disciplines in the Olympics are like.  Most people are understandably ignorant of the sport.  
Sports are not sports because of the appeal they may have to viewers.  Most people would agree that shooting is not a spectator sport &#039;JR&#039;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beta-blockers can be substituted for drugs that are not prohibited in sport.</p>
<p>The shooting disciplines that make up those in the Olympic/Commonwealth Games are precision target sports.  Most people do not have the opportunity to watch these sports on the televised Olympics.  Check out the link below if you&#8217;re interested in what the disciplines in the Olympics are like.  Most people are understandably ignorant of the sport.<br />
Sports are not sports because of the appeal they may have to viewers.  Most people would agree that shooting is not a spectator sport &#8216;JR&#8217;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JR</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/08/18/olympic-pistol-shooter-used-anti-trembling-drug-to-steady-his-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-17948</link>
		<dc:creator>JR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, that&#039;s NRA brainwashing crap. There are plenty of sports that don&#039;t get airtime, including one or two of my favorites.

Let&#039;s see. What do the named sports have in common? Scantily clad people in their prime. In other words, broad mass/sex appeal with lucrative commercial opportunity. How about rednecks* gently cradling and squeezing their guns? I&#039;ll pass, thanks.

*Gross generalization of participants, yet it&#039;s a redneck sport so I&#039;m not entirely apologetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, that&#8217;s NRA brainwashing crap. There are plenty of sports that don&#8217;t get airtime, including one or two of my favorites.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see. What do the named sports have in common? Scantily clad people in their prime. In other words, broad mass/sex appeal with lucrative commercial opportunity. How about rednecks* gently cradling and squeezing their guns? I&#8217;ll pass, thanks.</p>
<p>*Gross generalization of participants, yet it&#8217;s a redneck sport so I&#8217;m not entirely apologetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There’s an Olympic pistol shooting event? How come all they play on television is swimming and beach volleyball?&quot;

Political correctness for you.  Can&#039;t show guns being used in a fun friendly way!  There are pistol and rifle, air pistol and air rifle, as well as shotgun events in the Olympics.

But the pistol events do not use a 357 or 44 revolver as is shown in the article.  They use specialized 22lr pistols that look like space guns due to their ergonomic design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There’s an Olympic pistol shooting event? How come all they play on television is swimming and beach volleyball?&#8221;</p>
<p>Political correctness for you.  Can&#8217;t show guns being used in a fun friendly way!  There are pistol and rifle, air pistol and air rifle, as well as shotgun events in the Olympics.</p>
<p>But the pistol events do not use a 357 or 44 revolver as is shown in the article.  They use specialized 22lr pistols that look like space guns due to their ergonomic design.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Rowe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Rowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Are all beta-blockers banned in those 2 sports? Seems to me kinda difficult to limit a common medicinal class used in cardiovascular disease.&quot;   I suspect people who would normally take beta-blockers don&#039;t get to the highest levels of completive pistol and rifle shooting because of the the tremors, shakes, and general motion associated with their condition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Are all beta-blockers banned in those 2 sports? Seems to me kinda difficult to limit a common medicinal class used in cardiovascular disease.&#8221;   I suspect people who would normally take beta-blockers don&#8217;t get to the highest levels of completive pistol and rifle shooting because of the the tremors, shakes, and general motion associated with their condition.</p>
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		<title>By: Eliza Strickland</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/08/18/olympic-pistol-shooter-used-anti-trembling-drug-to-steady-his-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-3331</link>
		<dc:creator>Eliza Strickland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently all beta-blockers are indeed banned in archery and shooting, and there&#039;s no &quot;therapeutic use exemption.&quot; However, it&#039;s my understanding that they only test these athletes for the drug during the competition, so presumably an athlete that had high blood pressure wouldn&#039;t be barred from taking the drug throughout his or her life. 

On a side note, the World Anti-Doping Agency bans beta-blockers not just in shooting and archery, but also some other competitive events like billiards, chess, and nine-pin bowling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently all beta-blockers are indeed banned in archery and shooting, and there&#8217;s no &#8220;therapeutic use exemption.&#8221; However, it&#8217;s my understanding that they only test these athletes for the drug during the competition, so presumably an athlete that had high blood pressure wouldn&#8217;t be barred from taking the drug throughout his or her life. </p>
<p>On a side note, the World Anti-Doping Agency bans beta-blockers not just in shooting and archery, but also some other competitive events like billiards, chess, and nine-pin bowling.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Rose</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/08/18/olympic-pistol-shooter-used-anti-trembling-drug-to-steady-his-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-3257</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are all beta-blockers banned in those 2 sports?  Seems to me kinda difficult to limit a common medicinal class used in cardiovascular disease.  Did the athlete have a medicical purpose for the medication?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are all beta-blockers banned in those 2 sports?  Seems to me kinda difficult to limit a common medicinal class used in cardiovascular disease.  Did the athlete have a medicical purpose for the medication?</p>
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		<title>By: Eliza Strickland</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/08/18/olympic-pistol-shooter-used-anti-trembling-drug-to-steady-his-hands/comment-page-1/#comment-3237</link>
		<dc:creator>Eliza Strickland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a lot more to the Olympics than Michael Phelps. Like table-tennis (otherwise known as ping-pong), which has gotten incredibly high-tech and intense: 

http://discovermagazine.com/2008/the-body/08-the-year-the-olympics-went-really-hi-tech/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a lot more to the Olympics than Michael Phelps. Like table-tennis (otherwise known as ping-pong), which has gotten incredibly high-tech and intense: </p>
<p><a href="http://discovermagazine.com/2008/the-body/08-the-year-the-olympics-went-really-hi-tech/" rel="nofollow">http://discovermagazine.com/2008/the-body/08-the-year-the-olympics-went-really-hi-tech/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s an Olympic pistol shooting event? How come all they play on television is swimming and beach volleyball?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s an Olympic pistol shooting event? How come all they play on television is swimming and beach volleyball?</p>
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