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	<title>Comments on: Forget the Press Coverage: Conflicting Reports on Rising Oceans Are a Fake Controversy</title>
	<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/05/forget-the-press-coverage-conflicting-reports-on-rising-oceans-are-a-fake-controversy/</link>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Netwatcher</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/05/forget-the-press-coverage-conflicting-reports-on-rising-oceans-are-a-fake-controversy/#comment-7001</link>
		<dc:creator>Netwatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 06:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/05/forget-the-press-coverage-conflicting-reports-on-rising-oceans-are-a-fake-controversy/#comment-7001</guid>
		<description>@Juggernaut

The ice packs in the arctic haven't increased they've shrunk, but the over all snow fall has increased. Both of these facts have predicted by global warming models for over thirty years. 

Despite being full of ice and snow, the arctic is essentially a desert. As normally there is little moisture in the air, the average yearly snow fall is only 2 inches per year, but as the snow packs have melted, the humidity has risen and along with it increased overall snow fall across the region. Unfortunately not remotely enough to replace the ice and snow that is being lost due to the melt.

The reason the ice melts in the arctic is because, most of it sits on top of ocean, and while the air temperature rarely rises high enough to melt ice, the water temperature does.

If you have any more questions feel free to ask, but otherwise feel free to investigate for yourself. 

Your sitting in front of the single most powerful information gathering tool ever invented, and to use it to spread denier talking points rather then actually look for facts seems like a waste of effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Juggernaut</p>
<p>The ice packs in the arctic haven&#8217;t increased they&#8217;ve shrunk, but the over all snow fall has increased. Both of these facts have predicted by global warming models for over thirty years. </p>
<p>Despite being full of ice and snow, the arctic is essentially a desert. As normally there is little moisture in the air, the average yearly snow fall is only 2 inches per year, but as the snow packs have melted, the humidity has risen and along with it increased overall snow fall across the region. Unfortunately not remotely enough to replace the ice and snow that is being lost due to the melt.</p>
<p>The reason the ice melts in the arctic is because, most of it sits on top of ocean, and while the air temperature rarely rises high enough to melt ice, the water temperature does.</p>
<p>If you have any more questions feel free to ask, but otherwise feel free to investigate for yourself. </p>
<p>Your sitting in front of the single most powerful information gathering tool ever invented, and to use it to spread denier talking points rather then actually look for facts seems like a waste of effort.</p>
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		<title>By: JediBear</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/05/forget-the-press-coverage-conflicting-reports-on-rising-oceans-are-a-fake-controversy/#comment-6949</link>
		<dc:creator>JediBear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 02:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/05/forget-the-press-coverage-conflicting-reports-on-rising-oceans-are-a-fake-controversy/#comment-6949</guid>
		<description>There's no ignorance like willful ignorance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no ignorance like willful ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: Juggernaut</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/05/forget-the-press-coverage-conflicting-reports-on-rising-oceans-are-a-fake-controversy/#comment-6729</link>
		<dc:creator>Juggernaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 07:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/05/forget-the-press-coverage-conflicting-reports-on-rising-oceans-are-a-fake-controversy/#comment-6729</guid>
		<description>If the Earth is cooling, why would the ice caps melt?  If they're melting now, why are they getting bigger?  How do they melt if the temperature stays well below freezing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Earth is cooling, why would the ice caps melt?  If they&#8217;re melting now, why are they getting bigger?  How do they melt if the temperature stays well below freezing?</p>
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		<title>By: Wil</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/05/forget-the-press-coverage-conflicting-reports-on-rising-oceans-are-a-fake-controversy/#comment-6720</link>
		<dc:creator>Wil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 06:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/05/forget-the-press-coverage-conflicting-reports-on-rising-oceans-are-a-fake-controversy/#comment-6720</guid>
		<description>Any honest climatologist will admit that nobody on Earth, living or dead, can possibly predict the climate more than a few years in advance. All this fret, panic, debate, and (unfortunately) flat-out shameless lying gets us nowhere.

Al Gore was famous in the U.S. as a pathalogical liar, on many different topics, for years before he grabbed onto this global warming thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any honest climatologist will admit that nobody on Earth, living or dead, can possibly predict the climate more than a few years in advance. All this fret, panic, debate, and (unfortunately) flat-out shameless lying gets us nowhere.</p>
<p>Al Gore was famous in the U.S. as a pathalogical liar, on many different topics, for years before he grabbed onto this global warming thing.</p>
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