Comments on: First Protons Whiz Around the Large Hadron Collider’s Track http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/10/first-protons-whiz-around-the-large-hadron-colliders-track/ 80beats is DISCOVER's news aggregator, weaving together the choicest tidbits from the best articles covering the day\'s most compelling topics. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:36:58 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: david http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/10/first-protons-whiz-around-the-large-hadron-colliders-track/comment-page-1/#comment-24112 david Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:00:12 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/10/first-protons-whiz-around-the-large-hadron-colliders-track/#comment-24112 When the first A-bomb was set off many educated people said the world would burn. Nateral laws has a way to minimize destruction. God put them there to protect us. When the first A-bomb was set off many educated people said the world would burn. Nateral laws has a way to minimize destruction. God put them there to protect us.

]]> By: brian http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/10/first-protons-whiz-around-the-large-hadron-colliders-track/comment-page-1/#comment-18516 brian Mon, 16 Feb 2009 07:56:06 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/10/first-protons-whiz-around-the-large-hadron-colliders-track/#comment-18516 If a butterfly flaps its wings... If a butterfly flaps its wings…

]]> By: Hmm http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/10/first-protons-whiz-around-the-large-hadron-colliders-track/comment-page-1/#comment-17170 Hmm Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:14:19 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/10/first-protons-whiz-around-the-large-hadron-colliders-track/#comment-17170 It is the big bang theory starting all over again! :D It is the big bang theory starting all over again! :D

]]> By: Dana Manley http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/10/first-protons-whiz-around-the-large-hadron-colliders-track/comment-page-1/#comment-7424 Dana Manley Fri, 12 Sep 2008 21:20:56 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/10/first-protons-whiz-around-the-large-hadron-colliders-track/#comment-7424 Who knows what holds time/space intervals from each other? But a black hole is a result of a failure of the boundary between them. A larger slower Universe being sucked into a smaller faster one like a vacuum. This test may punch a hole in that boundary! This may be a natural safe guard to prevent juvenile intelligent beings from propagating the galaxy? They open the door and poof! Only mature patient species get past it? And I was so hoping for The United Federation of Planets! Who knows what holds time/space intervals from each other? But a black hole is a result of a failure of the boundary between them. A larger slower Universe being sucked into a smaller faster one like a vacuum. This test may punch a hole in that boundary! This may be a natural safe guard to prevent juvenile intelligent beings from propagating the galaxy? They open the door and poof! Only mature patient species get past it? And I was so hoping for The United Federation of Planets!

]]> By: TheSavageAtheist http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/10/first-protons-whiz-around-the-large-hadron-colliders-track/comment-page-1/#comment-7410 TheSavageAtheist Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:39:26 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/10/first-protons-whiz-around-the-large-hadron-colliders-track/#comment-7410 The thing that all these fear mongers / religulous folk always look past is the fact that particles are colliding with more energy into the earths magnetic field constantly (and through our bodies). But fear is always rooted from lack of understanding - if you choose to be ignorant do it in silence and let the thinkers of the species carry science and understanding further with out your claptrap. The thing that all these fear mongers / religulous folk always look past is the fact that particles are colliding with more energy into the earths magnetic field constantly (and through our bodies). But fear is always rooted from lack of understanding – if you choose to be ignorant do it in silence and let the thinkers of the species carry science and understanding further with out your claptrap.

]]> By: NickW http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/10/first-protons-whiz-around-the-large-hadron-colliders-track/comment-page-1/#comment-7387 NickW Thu, 11 Sep 2008 07:47:19 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/10/first-protons-whiz-around-the-large-hadron-colliders-track/#comment-7387 I would like to agree with that notion. It seems that even if a minor threat exists it is still worth the potentiality of obtaining such a vast amount of knowledge. Furthermore, with the exception of the nearly unsupportable idea that this could destroy the planet, many dangerous and experimental theories have been tested hundreds of times and none have proven to be detrimental. Also, it is inevitably unnecessary to argue with scientific experiments such as this because so long as we are here to DISCOVER them, we must pursue every legitimate possibility! I would like to agree with that notion. It seems that even if a minor threat exists it is still worth the potentiality of obtaining such a vast amount of knowledge. Furthermore, with the exception of the nearly unsupportable idea that this could destroy the planet, many dangerous and experimental theories have been tested hundreds of times and none have proven to be detrimental. Also, it is inevitably unnecessary to argue with scientific experiments such as this because so long as we are here to DISCOVER them, we must pursue every legitimate possibility!

]]> By: PyroFossa http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/10/first-protons-whiz-around-the-large-hadron-colliders-track/comment-page-1/#comment-7383 PyroFossa Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:08:48 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/10/first-protons-whiz-around-the-large-hadron-colliders-track/#comment-7383 @JTankers First of all, micro black holes pose no risk; due to their size, the micro black holes will evaporate in a fraction of a fraction of a second. Thus, the micro black holes will have virtually no impact. Secondly, danger is always present, no matter what one is doing. Of course, due to the sizes of the particles being dealt with, quantum uncertainty and other 'quantum weirdnesses' come into effect. So, yes, there is possible danger, but that probability is extremely small, and there's nothing we can do about it. @JTankers
First of all, micro black holes pose no risk; due to their size, the micro black holes will evaporate in a fraction of a fraction of a second. Thus, the micro black holes will have virtually no impact.

Secondly, danger is always present, no matter what one is doing. Of course, due to the sizes of the particles being dealt with, quantum uncertainty and other ‘quantum weirdnesses’ come into effect. So, yes, there is possible danger, but that probability is extremely small, and there’s nothing we can do about it.

]]> By: JTankers http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/10/first-protons-whiz-around-the-large-hadron-colliders-track/comment-page-1/#comment-7376 JTankers Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:47:12 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/10/first-protons-whiz-around-the-large-hadron-colliders-track/#comment-7376 The safety opposition alleges CERN is misrepresenting the certainty of safety and did not properly address compelling safety rebuttal papers by credible senior scientists including visiting professor of Physics Dr. Otto Rössler and Physics PHD Dr. Rainer Plaga. Dr. Steven Hawking estimates a 1% chance that micro black holes will be created by the Large Hadron Collider, CERN estimated possible micro black hole creation at one per second, micro black hole evaporation and cosmic ray safety arguments are disputed. Dr. Rössler (of Chaos theory and Endophysics fame) calculates possible danger, senior Physics PHD Dr. Rainer Plaga (wrote one of the reports refuting CERN's safety conclusions) calculates possible danger, former Nuclear Safety Officer Walter L. Wagner (cosmic ray researcher and California Math champion) calculates possible danger. To demand a safety conference before high energy collisions begin contact LHCDefense.org LHCFacts.org The safety opposition alleges CERN is misrepresenting the certainty of safety and did not properly address compelling safety rebuttal papers by credible senior scientists including visiting professor of Physics Dr. Otto Rössler and Physics PHD Dr. Rainer Plaga.

Dr. Steven Hawking estimates a 1% chance that micro black holes will be created by the Large Hadron Collider, CERN estimated possible micro black hole creation at one per second, micro black hole evaporation and cosmic ray safety arguments are disputed.

Dr. Rössler (of Chaos theory and Endophysics fame) calculates possible danger, senior Physics PHD Dr. Rainer Plaga (wrote one of the reports refuting CERN’s safety conclusions) calculates possible danger, former Nuclear Safety Officer Walter L. Wagner (cosmic ray researcher and California Math champion) calculates possible danger.

To demand a safety conference before high energy collisions begin contact LHCDefense.org

LHCFacts.org

]]> By: votetheday.com http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/10/first-protons-whiz-around-the-large-hadron-colliders-track/comment-page-1/#comment-7375 votetheday.com Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:46:41 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/09/10/first-protons-whiz-around-the-large-hadron-colliders-track/#comment-7375 Gosh, it's just a big atom smasher, and the possibility of something dangerous to happen is too small for that something to happen ;) If it would have been real risk, scientists would inform us, or take measures against it, or, after all, never would have thought of taking this idea to reality. So stop worrying, listen to common sense and do not let this rumor by fools take over your mind. There are very little people, who really believe it's dangerous - http://www.votetheday.com/polls/worlds-largest-particle-accelerator-experiment-214/, but looks like panic is a very hazardous thing, ha? Gosh, it’s just a big atom smasher, and the possibility of something dangerous to happen is too small for that something to happen ;) If it would have been real risk, scientists would inform us, or take measures against it, or, after all, never would have thought of taking this idea to reality. So stop worrying, listen to common sense and do not let this rumor by fools take over your mind. There are very little people, who really believe it’s dangerous – http://www.votetheday.com/polls/worlds-largest-particle-accelerator-experiment-214/, but looks like panic is a very hazardous thing, ha?

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