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	<title>Comments on: Police May Soon Use Pain Guns That Heat Skin With Microwaves</title>
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		<title>By: Cory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So,who will be the first person with an unforseen skin disorder to be permanently scarred or die from this.If some one with Mirsa gets hit by one of these they should sue because mirsa is a form of bacteria and therefore needs heat to replicate.Though the amount of heat may not be dangerous to a healthy person the police should be held accountable for any damage they cause .This should be true for current technologies also. In my opinion we should destroy most of our current or unnecessary laws  and police practices and re simplify the justice system.This will never happen because  most people  by the way they live and the things they  pay for  or expect have directly or indirectly contributed to the eroding of our freedom.There were adds in my home town last year asking the elderly to call the police if they felt threatened or scared or to report &quot;suspicious&quot; activity.This is just one example of how our current system uses the public to spy on each other weather for the so called common good,for qoutas, Jesus,race,or ideology there will always exist thugs and informants who will jump to the opportunity to bash heads and enforce someone elses standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So,who will be the first person with an unforseen skin disorder to be permanently scarred or die from this.If some one with Mirsa gets hit by one of these they should sue because mirsa is a form of bacteria and therefore needs heat to replicate.Though the amount of heat may not be dangerous to a healthy person the police should be held accountable for any damage they cause .This should be true for current technologies also. In my opinion we should destroy most of our current or unnecessary laws  and police practices and re simplify the justice system.This will never happen because  most people  by the way they live and the things they  pay for  or expect have directly or indirectly contributed to the eroding of our freedom.There were adds in my home town last year asking the elderly to call the police if they felt threatened or scared or to report &#8220;suspicious&#8221; activity.This is just one example of how our current system uses the public to spy on each other weather for the so called common good,for qoutas, Jesus,race,or ideology there will always exist thugs and informants who will jump to the opportunity to bash heads and enforce someone elses standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The police do not need anymore torture compliance toys. The donut  eaters already carry Portable Electroshock Torture devices. You have the right to peacefully assemble right in front of my giant microwave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The police do not need anymore torture compliance toys. The donut  eaters already carry Portable Electroshock Torture devices. You have the right to peacefully assemble right in front of my giant microwave.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis Merrigan, III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louis Merrigan, III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On so many levels this is just WRONG, the over zelos cops that have too much power to start with do not need a wepon that gives them the power to literaly COOK who ever they chose to dislike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On so many levels this is just WRONG, the over zelos cops that have too much power to start with do not need a wepon that gives them the power to literaly COOK who ever they chose to dislike.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said.</p>
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		<title>By: IlovePAIN</title>
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		<dc:creator>IlovePAIN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Government had not made almost every aspect of our lives ILLEGAL, there would not be so many Police or Prisons.

Most of the things that are considered against the LAW, are not JUST CAUSES, But Moral Judgments of a Warped mind hell bent on making you live by his standards. In Other Words, they can&#039;t stand to see someone do something they themselves would not do, or in some cases, they would not want you to enjoy something they enjoy doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Government had not made almost every aspect of our lives ILLEGAL, there would not be so many Police or Prisons.</p>
<p>Most of the things that are considered against the LAW, are not JUST CAUSES, But Moral Judgments of a Warped mind hell bent on making you live by his standards. In Other Words, they can&#8217;t stand to see someone do something they themselves would not do, or in some cases, they would not want you to enjoy something they enjoy doing.</p>
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		<title>By: IlovePAIN</title>
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		<dc:creator>IlovePAIN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, these devices can be defeated with a front reflective surface mirror, or a polished reflective dish can also be used to reflect the device back to the operator. 

Either way, Our Liberties and Freedoms are being eroded away faster and faster, and George Orwell&#039;s Police state is quickly taking to the streets in an attempt to Dominate the public for their Masters.

And in case you don&#039;t know who the Masters are, they are the people who OWN the Federal Reserve and World Bank. As long as these people can PAY the Thugs, the Thugs will be willing to Destroy You when told to.

BUY Long Term Storable Food, times are going to get real bad soon, and if you can&#039;t grow your own food, you will be helpless to resist, and you will be at the Mercy of the Masters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, these devices can be defeated with a front reflective surface mirror, or a polished reflective dish can also be used to reflect the device back to the operator. </p>
<p>Either way, Our Liberties and Freedoms are being eroded away faster and faster, and George Orwell&#8217;s Police state is quickly taking to the streets in an attempt to Dominate the public for their Masters.</p>
<p>And in case you don&#8217;t know who the Masters are, they are the people who OWN the Federal Reserve and World Bank. As long as these people can PAY the Thugs, the Thugs will be willing to Destroy You when told to.</p>
<p>BUY Long Term Storable Food, times are going to get real bad soon, and if you can&#8217;t grow your own food, you will be helpless to resist, and you will be at the Mercy of the Masters.</p>
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		<title>By: IlovePAIN</title>
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		<dc:creator>IlovePAIN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have experimented with IR lasers and microwave tubes, and even though they say these are not permanent harm devices, I have seen what it can do, and for someone in a wheelchair who is not able to run, the effects can be life threatening.

And I might add that should some Law Enforcement team attempt to use such a device on me, they will quickly find out how fast that device can be defeated, by hot lead.

For anyone who knows about this technology, you should know that a reflective space blanket will prevent either of those devices from doing much harm to the target, and a person with a space blanket and a big gun could give the users of such a device a real bad day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have experimented with IR lasers and microwave tubes, and even though they say these are not permanent harm devices, I have seen what it can do, and for someone in a wheelchair who is not able to run, the effects can be life threatening.</p>
<p>And I might add that should some Law Enforcement team attempt to use such a device on me, they will quickly find out how fast that device can be defeated, by hot lead.</p>
<p>For anyone who knows about this technology, you should know that a reflective space blanket will prevent either of those devices from doing much harm to the target, and a person with a space blanket and a big gun could give the users of such a device a real bad day.</p>
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		<title>By: zach</title>
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		<dc:creator>zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately the trainers and management of police aren&#039;t exactly the best and brightest, neither are the officers themselves. Some are certainly decent and honest, but a high risk job that doesn&#039;t really pay all that well, tends not to attract brilliant minds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately the trainers and management of police aren&#8217;t exactly the best and brightest, neither are the officers themselves. Some are certainly decent and honest, but a high risk job that doesn&#8217;t really pay all that well, tends not to attract brilliant minds.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I think the idea that &quot;anything can be abused&quot; is misrepresented if put as an argument for more nonlethal weapons.  Bullets should always be limited to situations that may be deadly to the law enforcer, and they largely are in the U.S. So providing a pain ray that will only ever be used in a situation that the law enforcer&#039;s life is not in danger (I.E the pain ray will NOT stop a police officer using a gun on a suspect with a gun, because in any situation their lives are in danger they must protect themselves).

These tools are largely tools to simply make restraining suspects easier, and with that small benefit create  a much bigger potential for abuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I think the idea that &#8220;anything can be abused&#8221; is misrepresented if put as an argument for more nonlethal weapons.  Bullets should always be limited to situations that may be deadly to the law enforcer, and they largely are in the U.S. So providing a pain ray that will only ever be used in a situation that the law enforcer&#8217;s life is not in danger (I.E the pain ray will NOT stop a police officer using a gun on a suspect with a gun, because in any situation their lives are in danger they must protect themselves).</p>
<p>These tools are largely tools to simply make restraining suspects easier, and with that small benefit create  a much bigger potential for abuse.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeD</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll take microwaves over high velocity lead any day. Before we critisize researching new pain tools why don&#039;t we look at the tools we give police now, and why they have them. Each officer has the means of lethal enforcement with them at all times, because of the violence they may have to respond to. Non leathal means of accomplishing the same task should be promoted by humanitarians, not opposed just because its a new way to hurt people.

The fear of course is it may be abused precisely because its not lethal. Any amount of authority can and will be abused. Its the responsibility of trainers and management to minimise this, not the tools of the trade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll take microwaves over high velocity lead any day. Before we critisize researching new pain tools why don&#8217;t we look at the tools we give police now, and why they have them. Each officer has the means of lethal enforcement with them at all times, because of the violence they may have to respond to. Non leathal means of accomplishing the same task should be promoted by humanitarians, not opposed just because its a new way to hurt people.</p>
<p>The fear of course is it may be abused precisely because its not lethal. Any amount of authority can and will be abused. Its the responsibility of trainers and management to minimise this, not the tools of the trade.</p>
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