A woman does have control of what happens to her body but that is another person inside her body.

I’m not advocating abortions not be available but let us stop the pretense that it is not the taking of a life.

I am amazed we allow a woman to decide to have an abortion when there are no medical complications but will not allow euthanasia for those critically ill and suffering.

Does this sound OK to you?

This law needed to go for the sake of everyone’s health, including the poor girls who are seeking abortion. Of all the people that should not be in their way doctors are on the top of the list. And for all those that would judge them I take a quote from the bible and say, “let the one who has not sinned cast the first stone.” It goes something like that anyway, you get my point.

And I agree that the issue of abortion is completely different than war or punishment. Also no one is going to be REQUIRED to kill people who want to die, killing is still illegal, if anything it’s the other way around, the law in place now says that because of ethical and religious beliefs that they can refuse treatment to the old and dying so FA la la can shut up with that one.

If you are ultra religious, stupid, or ignorant please stop posting on this SCIENTIFIC website, I read this stuff to get a sense of hope and pride at humanities accomplishments and yet when I read the postings all I get is the feeling that there are countless people still trying to live in the dark ages. Religion has been holding humanity back ever sense the first ignorant bastard created a fairy tale to explain the world. Please whine and complain elsewhere because the scientific community is still going to move forward using reason and logic no matter how much you pray for us to stop. Grow up and accept that no one is coming down from heaven to take you to paradise, this is the world we have and we need to accept responsibility for it instead of wishing for a father figure to come down and rescue us from ourselves.

Then, with the upcoming medical change from the best and good care to the most economical (passed in that stimulus bill that wasn’t read) for the government (cost effective), the government may decide that some old people simply aren’t worth their medical expenses, medications and managed care providers and opt to off them to save (economical) costs in patient management – so we’ll have doctors and such FORCED to murder people who don’t want to be put to death.

But, hey, who cares, right? It is just the government dictating what you’re forced to do in your job.

As for the hypocrisy of being pro-life and pro-death penalty, I clear that up without equivocation – I’m ANTI ABORTION. I’m NOT pro-life. (as I’ll drop any fool stupid enough to break in to my house, have no issue with the death penalty – except that it is too expensive to administer and isn’t done often enough)

I also agree with you on the hypocrisy on both sides. Life is life, old or young, man or woman, good or evil. We live in a world of death, but should we be procreators of death? And how can you live on both sides of the line? Yes, there are circumstances of self-defense in almost all these situations which are so emotionally and politically charged, but these are the exception, rather than the rule. I support self-defense when it comes to an action done to preserve your own life. Not an action done to preserve your social life, to preserve your ego, to preserve your pride, to preserve your pocket-book, etc. This applies, as you said, not only to abortion, but all issues of life and death: abortion, death penalty, euthanasia, war…

You cannot live on both sides of the line. Can you, Chris? If you support abortion, do you also support the death penalty, war, and euthanasia? Or are you abstaining from choosing a side? (I can’t quite tell from your comment.) For those of you abstaining from choosing a side, let me remind you that there were many in Nazi Germany who refused to take a side as to whether or not the Jews should be protected or eliminated. Let me also remind you of the famous quote, “Evil prevails when good men do nothing.” Life is too important to say, “Let someone else decide, I don’t care.”

From your point of view.

Just because one can speak and take action and the other can’t doesn’t make the one speaking right, or the only one with rights.

and of course most Pro-abortion supporters are against the death penalty and anti-war

The entire issue reeks of hypocrisy on both sides.

And it boils down to only this. A womans Body and her right to choose.

“Pre-existing federal law protects doctors and nurses who decline to provide abortion services because of their ethical beliefs, and changing the so-called conscience rule would have no effect on that law”

So take a deep breath and relax. Obama is just trying to undo the draconian damage Bush did before leaving office.

However, abortion is one of a growing number of cases where life is destroyed as a lifestyle choice. I would put it to Obama that if you don’t respect life, you cannot run a good economy. And sadly Obama doesn’t get it.

Back on topic, scientific consensus should trump religious morals in a scientific establishment like a hospital, doctor’s private practice, or pharmacy. They should be left and home and in the church. If you would prefer to live without scientific consensus, please go back to the Dark Ages and huddle in filth and squalor (with the streets quite literally covered in shit. Hey, filth was healthy back then, according to the beliefs of the people at the time!) People keep acting like change is a bad thing and like they want the world to be perfectly preserved as it is now (or right after being formed into their version of ‘perfect’), as if they are the first people to have ever had that thought.

Think about this: Rome was just fine for 600 years or so before it’s emperor converted to Christianity and imposed Christian morals (whatever they were in the day) on the empire. 300 years later it became ancient history.

Think about this: we routinely denounce conservative religious democracies. Like Palestine, Lebanon and Iran.

Think about this: we routinely fete conservative religious democracies, like Israel and the Bush administration, as well as religious non-democracies like Saudi Arabia and Dubai.