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	<title>Comments on: No More Speculation: Scientists Prove Ocean Acidification is Already Underway</title>
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		<title>By: nicolew</title>
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		<dc:creator>nicolew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Brandon hit on something - we&#039;re doomed as a race unless we get ourselves off this planet eventually, even if the most dire of the predictions don&#039;t come true.

We should be equally concerned with sustainability/conservation and space exploration/ developing the technology that will take us to new worlds and enable us to terraform them to suit our needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Brandon hit on something &#8211; we&#8217;re doomed as a race unless we get ourselves off this planet eventually, even if the most dire of the predictions don&#8217;t come true.</p>
<p>We should be equally concerned with sustainability/conservation and space exploration/ developing the technology that will take us to new worlds and enable us to terraform them to suit our needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Mina Tweak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mina Tweak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 00:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to make light of a serious situation and say: An acid ocean is a great place to dissolve the worlds trash!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to make light of a serious situation and say: An acid ocean is a great place to dissolve the worlds trash!</p>
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		<title>By: Earl_E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Earl_E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh come now. The shells are mearly thinning themselves to become more energy efficient and reduce their carbon shellprint.

Not only do I ride my bike today, but I have planted an orchard, grow many of my own vegatables, just stocked my new pond for the first time with feeder fish, and will begin planting a 3 tree deep wind break to try and save the crops from hurricane force winds that now make it inland 1000 miles.

The idiots who talk about the temps on Mars feel sure about scientific measurements on those planets, yet doubt the validity of measurements on our own.

Cause? Brain damage from mercury poisoning.

Like mankind, ignorance is a force of nature too. It has helped end the existance of many cultures throughout human history, and looks like it will be complicit in this collapse as well.

Economics as if people don&#039;t matter. If someone can line their pockets with cash destroying the world, they will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh come now. The shells are mearly thinning themselves to become more energy efficient and reduce their carbon shellprint.</p>
<p>Not only do I ride my bike today, but I have planted an orchard, grow many of my own vegatables, just stocked my new pond for the first time with feeder fish, and will begin planting a 3 tree deep wind break to try and save the crops from hurricane force winds that now make it inland 1000 miles.</p>
<p>The idiots who talk about the temps on Mars feel sure about scientific measurements on those planets, yet doubt the validity of measurements on our own.</p>
<p>Cause? Brain damage from mercury poisoning.</p>
<p>Like mankind, ignorance is a force of nature too. It has helped end the existance of many cultures throughout human history, and looks like it will be complicit in this collapse as well.</p>
<p>Economics as if people don&#8217;t matter. If someone can line their pockets with cash destroying the world, they will.</p>
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		<title>By: eukaryote</title>
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		<dc:creator>eukaryote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 02:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George - umm... this article is not even about global warming, it&#039;s about acidification of the oceans due to increased carbon dioxide levels, get your alternate realities straight.  Are the oceans on Mars getting more acidic?  Oh wait, there aren&#039;t any oceans on Mars because Mars is an inhospitable hell, like the rest of the solar system other than Earth.  What causes people like you to want to plug their ears and cover their eyes and exist in a state of denial that carbon dioxide is a pollutant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George &#8211; umm&#8230; this article is not even about global warming, it&#8217;s about acidification of the oceans due to increased carbon dioxide levels, get your alternate realities straight.  Are the oceans on Mars getting more acidic?  Oh wait, there aren&#8217;t any oceans on Mars because Mars is an inhospitable hell, like the rest of the solar system other than Earth.  What causes people like you to want to plug their ears and cover their eyes and exist in a state of denial that carbon dioxide is a pollutant?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel J. Andrews</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel J. Andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 01:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George....re: warming on Mars and Jupiter.  Is it warming on Mercury, Venus, Saturn, Uranus, or Neptune? Are any of the 100 plus bodies swarming around also warming? What part of Jupiter is warming? Did they measure the whole planet or did they just measure one small gaseous band, which is like measuring the temperature of something like a hurricane here on earth and claiming it represents the whole planet? 

Also why are Mars and Pluto warming...perhaps it is due to orbital angle, or moving into their summer season? Planets and planetoids do have warm and cold seasons, like earth. It makes sense that some will be getting warmer and some will be getting colder. 

How much has Pluto warmed up? Check Pluto&#039;s distance from the sun compared to Earth&#039;s---then workout the amount of heat needed to warm Pluto by x degrees and figure out what that would do to Earth if the sun&#039;s heat had actually increased  enough to warm Pluto by the amount they say it is warming (hint: . :)

Do not get rely on Joe and Jane blogger or newspapers for your information. Instead, go to the source and see what the scientists themselves are saying. A scientist&#039;s reputation depends upon his objectivity and honesty and you are far more likely to get reliable information from them as compared to a usually anonymous blogger who is more interested in defending an ideology rather than discovering the truth. Not saying scientists are perfect, but their work needs to stand up to intense scrutiny by thousands of other experts and if the work isn&#039;t good, it will be discarded. Best wishes as you do some real research.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George&#8230;.re: warming on Mars and Jupiter.  Is it warming on Mercury, Venus, Saturn, Uranus, or Neptune? Are any of the 100 plus bodies swarming around also warming? What part of Jupiter is warming? Did they measure the whole planet or did they just measure one small gaseous band, which is like measuring the temperature of something like a hurricane here on earth and claiming it represents the whole planet? </p>
<p>Also why are Mars and Pluto warming&#8230;perhaps it is due to orbital angle, or moving into their summer season? Planets and planetoids do have warm and cold seasons, like earth. It makes sense that some will be getting warmer and some will be getting colder. </p>
<p>How much has Pluto warmed up? Check Pluto&#8217;s distance from the sun compared to Earth&#8217;s&#8212;then workout the amount of heat needed to warm Pluto by x degrees and figure out what that would do to Earth if the sun&#8217;s heat had actually increased  enough to warm Pluto by the amount they say it is warming (hint: . :)</p>
<p>Do not get rely on Joe and Jane blogger or newspapers for your information. Instead, go to the source and see what the scientists themselves are saying. A scientist&#8217;s reputation depends upon his objectivity and honesty and you are far more likely to get reliable information from them as compared to a usually anonymous blogger who is more interested in defending an ideology rather than discovering the truth. Not saying scientists are perfect, but their work needs to stand up to intense scrutiny by thousands of other experts and if the work isn&#8217;t good, it will be discarded. Best wishes as you do some real research.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will take me about 5 hours to ride a bike to work, but I&#039;m gonna do it.  

How can we survive without nourishment?  If we can ever figure that one out, then anything&#039;s possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will take me about 5 hours to ride a bike to work, but I&#8217;m gonna do it.  </p>
<p>How can we survive without nourishment?  If we can ever figure that one out, then anything&#8217;s possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon M Sergent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon M Sergent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those freaking out:

Relax. Just more motivation to extricate ourselves from the food chain completely. Besides, the down side to this even worst case, isn&#039;t all that bad relatively speaking. There are a billion worse things to worry about at this point. Most all of them having to do with us being chained to a single ball of dirt looping a single star.

And besides, the most any of you are willing to do about it is complain on the internet, I don&#039;t see anyone selling the SUV riding a bike to work over this article. 

So please, shhh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those freaking out:</p>
<p>Relax. Just more motivation to extricate ourselves from the food chain completely. Besides, the down side to this even worst case, isn&#8217;t all that bad relatively speaking. There are a billion worse things to worry about at this point. Most all of them having to do with us being chained to a single ball of dirt looping a single star.</p>
<p>And besides, the most any of you are willing to do about it is complain on the internet, I don&#8217;t see anyone selling the SUV riding a bike to work over this article. </p>
<p>So please, shhh.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>* Global Screaming: Climate Hysteria Reaches New Level - The fact that warming has been detected on other planets like Mars and Jupiter where there are no humans at all?:
http://www.dakotavoice.com/2009/03/global-screaming-climate-hysteria-reaches-new-level/
* LiveScience - Sun Blamed for Warming of Earth and Other Worlds - Earth is heating up lately, but so are Mars, Pluto and other worlds in our solar system, leading some scientists to speculate that a change in the sun’s activity is the common thread linking all these baking events:
http://cristiannegureanu.blogspot.com/2009/03/carbon-emissions-creating-acidic-oceans.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>* Global Screaming: Climate Hysteria Reaches New Level &#8211; The fact that warming has been detected on other planets like Mars and Jupiter where there are no humans at all?:<br />
<a href="http://www.dakotavoice.com/2009/03/global-screaming-climate-hysteria-reaches-new-level/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dakotavoice.com/2009/03/global-screaming-climate-hysteria-reaches-new-level/</a><br />
* LiveScience &#8211; Sun Blamed for Warming of Earth and Other Worlds &#8211; Earth is heating up lately, but so are Mars, Pluto and other worlds in our solar system, leading some scientists to speculate that a change in the sun’s activity is the common thread linking all these baking events:<br />
<a href="http://cristiannegureanu.blogspot.com/2009/03/carbon-emissions-creating-acidic-oceans.html" rel="nofollow">http://cristiannegureanu.blogspot.com/2009/03/carbon-emissions-creating-acidic-oceans.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The oceans are the cradle of life on our planet and we&#039;re trying our dangdest to kill &#039;em.  Whales can&#039;t even communicate with eachother anymore due to the human infestation.  We pump mercury into the water like we&#039;re trying to turn the oceans into a big ole thermometer.  We over fish them, drain our fertilizer into them, and fill them with a continent&#039;s worth of plastic.  Why is all of this?  How much is necessary?  
If we refused mass consumerism, eventually they&#039;d curb production.  Why does everything have to be individually wrapped in plastic?  Why not make ketchup packets bigger, since we use more than one anyway.  Why not use a renewable resource to make plastics?  Why not use natural gas to fuel our cars instead of refining oil and corn alcohol to do what natural gas will do readily?  And we&#039;re just burning it off the top in many areas of the world.  Why does white rice cost more than brown rice?  Why do we pay more for all refined foods than foods in their natural state?  
We&#039;ve been duped into buying everything they sell us because we&#039;re scared to think for ourselves. We can&#039;t communicate or cooperate with each other without the constant intervention of people and groups we&#039;ll never know personally.  
We need to teach conservation,, personal finance, and common courtesy at a young age.  Our educational system harps on standardized test results, when they should teach specialization.  Why not identify young people&#039;s talents and exploit them?  We have millions of workers here who could probably benefit mankind if they only knew how.
Why am I mentioning us?  Because, as Americans, it&#039;s our demands on the world market, our inefficiencies in manufacturing, our wastefulness and greed which are dictating the future of our world.  We all know it&#039;s true we&#039;re just too timid and careless to do anything about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The oceans are the cradle of life on our planet and we&#8217;re trying our dangdest to kill &#8216;em.  Whales can&#8217;t even communicate with eachother anymore due to the human infestation.  We pump mercury into the water like we&#8217;re trying to turn the oceans into a big ole thermometer.  We over fish them, drain our fertilizer into them, and fill them with a continent&#8217;s worth of plastic.  Why is all of this?  How much is necessary?<br />
If we refused mass consumerism, eventually they&#8217;d curb production.  Why does everything have to be individually wrapped in plastic?  Why not make ketchup packets bigger, since we use more than one anyway.  Why not use a renewable resource to make plastics?  Why not use natural gas to fuel our cars instead of refining oil and corn alcohol to do what natural gas will do readily?  And we&#8217;re just burning it off the top in many areas of the world.  Why does white rice cost more than brown rice?  Why do we pay more for all refined foods than foods in their natural state?<br />
We&#8217;ve been duped into buying everything they sell us because we&#8217;re scared to think for ourselves. We can&#8217;t communicate or cooperate with each other without the constant intervention of people and groups we&#8217;ll never know personally.<br />
We need to teach conservation,, personal finance, and common courtesy at a young age.  Our educational system harps on standardized test results, when they should teach specialization.  Why not identify young people&#8217;s talents and exploit them?  We have millions of workers here who could probably benefit mankind if they only knew how.<br />
Why am I mentioning us?  Because, as Americans, it&#8217;s our demands on the world market, our inefficiencies in manufacturing, our wastefulness and greed which are dictating the future of our world.  We all know it&#8217;s true we&#8217;re just too timid and careless to do anything about it.</p>
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		<title>By: FILTHpig</title>
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		<dc:creator>FILTHpig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just as suspected: We Are SCREWED!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as suspected: We Are SCREWED!</p>
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