Comments on: Quantum Physicist Wins $1.4M Templeton Prize For Work on “Veiled Reality”

By: Josh

Josh — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:04:18 +0000

The “God of the Gaps” argument holds as much weight as the garbage I took out this morning.

By: Jen

Jen — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:23:24 +0000

P.S. Tony is right on! Watch Rob Bell’s video!

By: Jen

Jen — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:22:02 +0000

Stephen wrote, “Intelligent Design advocates take an approach that tries to push God into the framework by saying we can puzzle out what was just randomly allowed to happen, and what is so improbable that it requires God’s hand…”

Intelligent Design advocates may seem to “push God” into every scientific occurrence that does not make sense, but don’t those who refuse to believe in the possibility make the same error by pushing Him out? The scientific process about testing and experimenting tangible things to determine the laws and theories that govern our universe; therefore, one cannot use the argument of science to prove there is no God, just as you cannot prove their is a God. God, or a supreme being or designer, does not fall in the realm of science. It falls in the realm of faith. At times, science may give evidence of intelligent design rather than, for example, random chance, but it doesn’t prove the existence of God, just as figuring out a scientific mystery does not prove God’s nonexistence. If those dealing with something as complex as quantum physics believe that the very nature of it points to a greater being or intelligent design or even God himself, it is a show of that person’s faith that is aroused by science. The two are not mutually exclusive, though neither can they prove each other.

By: Richard Warwick

Richard Warwick — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:08:54 +0000

Trying to find God in the physical universe is like trying to rob Fort Knox. Still, if it’s worth a million I hope he has fun with it for his few remaining years.

By: Tony

Tony — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:53:33 +0000

I think it is interesting to note that the REAL SCIENTIST in this conversation is the one who thinks there must be a creator…. as do many of his kind……. I myself am a lowly farm equipment mechanic and have been for 30 years……I have as much business arguing quantum mechanics as a pigmy tribesman from the Amazon jungle has building a nuclear power plant…….though I’m pretty certain I couldn’t last long where he lives !! I have read and studied all my life though and have come to realize that I am either an accidental animal, the pruduct of a gazillion to one shot occurance in the universe, and dependent pretty much on that same set of odds for my continued existence, or the beneficiary of a Creator who is up to something that is up not entirely clear to me. On the one hand my only purpose is to compete for all I need and want…..in which case I must admit sex would be my highest motivation…. OR I am responsible to a Maker that I would kind of like to get to know …..the odds are too much for me….. and the end too hopeless…… if anyone gets the chance to question those odds watch Rob Bells video “Everything is Spiritual” even if you are a confirmed atheist the science is pretty astounding !!

By: spha-odon

spha-odon — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 05:58:05 +0000

Choice, Not Chance
The missing link has made many think,
And some write it down with pen and ink –
They pass their word along
In structured prose and lyric song.
They’ve assumptions of the monkey mind
As being a most enlightened kind
That needs be listened to
So all its monkey thoughts we can review.
Let us consider on this path
A most profound aftermath–
The effect upon the youthful mind,
To permit this “double bind.”
About this missing link
Being how we look, not how we think,
These beastly minds that in us dwell
Open wide the gates of hell.
But, perhaps as regressed through hypnotic trance,
One may find his preternatural stance
To have been a choice and not a chance
Of evolutionary circumstance.
022497

By: CynthiaLynn

CynthiaLynn — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 03:06:45 +0000

You are welcome Tony. Keep the Faith. It’s gonna be worth it.

By: Tony

Tony — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:59:06 +0000

To Filth That is quite a group you put me in to for no more than I wrote…….I think maybe you have saddled me to someone elses horse……YOU are right GOD can’t be PROVEN one way or the other…….just as most of what we call science now that is truely only theory…..accepted perhaps but unproven because it can’t be repeated……and even if it weren’t it couldn’t negate a Creator…… FAITH is a more wonderful way to live !!!!!!! I BELIEVE !!!!!! Thank You Cyntia !! :-)

By: CynthiaLynn

CynthiaLynn — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:29:46 +0000

No, Filthpig, you are wrong. It is ‘Ex Nihilo Nihil Fit.’ Translation: Out of nothing nothing comes. We are talking about science right now. Try to keep up. Science says: Out of nothing, nothing comes. This is not religion. Look it up before you reply.

Furthermore, whether most people are self-righteous or not has nothing to do with science Filthpig. But, Tony is right on. Tony rocks!

By: Rod Lloyd

Rod Lloyd — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:41:00 +0000

Trika Shaivite philosophy is one of the most advanced Hindu philosophies and is totally at ease with these sort of quantum findings. It maintains that the “Principle of Awareness” is the Primal Field not produced by matter and mind, but out of which, matter and mind is organised and arises. This it symbolises richly in a religious manner. It postulates that our own core of awareness is but a connection to that Great Primal Eternal Awareness by which existence, evolution and devolution is experienced. “God” exists but not in the Western delimited form. Quantum science is one modern portal of faith for me.

By: FILTHpig

FILTHpig — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:39:47 +0000

Sorry, it’s “SOMETHING can come out of nothing”. Also, being that religion predates science, let’s see some proof that God DOES exist. And don’t go point to a tree and say “see what I mean”. There is no “proof” either way. Religion is just an excuse for people to think they are somehow better than the the rest of us. That God exists or not isn’t the point. The point is most people are self-righteous, hypocritical elitists (see Tony) and religion seems to promote those qualities in society.

By: CynthiaLynn

CynthiaLynn — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:50:47 +0000

There is scientific evidence that ‘nothing can come out of nothing.’ That proves creation. Can anyone share with me even one shred of scientific evidence that disproves God’s existence?

By: Tony

Tony — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:05:39 +0000

If “The fear of Death” is the only reason for accepting GOD then what is the reason for denying HIM ??? Fear of accountability ??? Perhaps if you could show me one piece of “Scientific Evidence”……. or the entire accumulated record for that matter……. that precludes or negates the posible underlying existance of GOD ???? The difference between our two positions is that the “NO GOD” one has NO MORAL FOUNDATION…..NO ULTIMATE TRUTH…….NO HOPE FOR ANYTHING BEYOND ORGANIC DECAY……. NO REASON BEYOND A KINDLY HEART TO TREAT OTHERS JUSTLY……. If, on the other hand, there IS a GOD,then HE IS the inventor and creator of ALL of the science that we have learned and can see and of ALL that we can not yet understand…..and it ALL HAS A PURPOSE and a REASON and I AM ACCOUNTABLE !!!!! Stop and think about it….if we are BOTH WRONG what is the difference in the way we chose to live ???? DEATH will be EXACTLY THE SAME and yet LIFE for ME will have been FULL of HOPE and ACCOUNTABILITY to someone higher than myself who insists I treat others JUSTLY and COMANDS that I LOVE WITH DEFERENCE to others !!!! If we are both wrong which life is best ???? even if just I AM WRONG ??? Even just YOU ARE WRONG ????

By: CynthiaLynn

CynthiaLynn — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:51:11 +0000

Sorry. Lambert Dolphin.

By: CynthiaLynn

CynthiaLynn — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:49:22 +0000

In January 1997, Lamber Dolphin, a physicist, wrote “What holds the universe together?” This can be found on the web. Search ‘The Vacuum: Much ado about Nothing.’ It’s refreshing to see educated intelligence believing in God.