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	<title>Comments on: World&#039;s Oldest Flute Shows First Europeans Were a Musical Bunch</title>
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		<title>By: S</title>
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		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 01:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What was the first musical instrument ever made? By who?</description>
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		<title>By: Camille</title>
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		<dc:creator>Camille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 05:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, All,

Just ran across this article &amp; I have some comments on it.

1) I agree w/ Nick &amp; Jumblepudding&#039;s idea of making music from this but think it should be done from a casting of the original.  That&#039;s so that, hopefully, there will be DNA testing on the original.  Jumblepudding&#039;s suggesion of Ian Anderson is great!

2) I, of course, haven&#039;t seen the original, but, speaking now as a senior-level archaeologist, in looking at the pic, &amp; contrary to what the article says, I think the flute is *not* intact.  The article says it&#039;s a 5-holed flute, but clearly, there are only 4 holes showing.  There is evidence, at either end, of breakage; the broken ends might have been where other holes were.  Looking at these areas under a microscope (microwear analysis) could easily verify that.  So, if not intact, the actual no. of holes in the instrument is unknown &amp; further speculation such as &quot;might be capable of expressing greater harmonic variety than the modern-day flute&quot; (from the related article at http://discovermagazine.com/2010/jan-feb/051) is just that-- speculation.

3) Relating to Stephen&#039;s comment which referenced an earlier Discover article, I am very disturbed that Discover would publish a &#039;joke&#039; article, which, unless you noticed the date-- April 1st-- appears otherwise to be scholarly &amp; serious.  I would like to think that I have a good sense of humor &amp; can appreciate that Discover may want to make science
&#039;entertaining&#039; for the masses, but I, for one, think that science is fascinating enough without having to resort to such tactics!  I hope Discover has discontinued such &#039;jokes&#039;.  (Perhaps these &#039;April 1st&#039; articles could be more obviously labelled as joke articles.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, All,</p>
<p>Just ran across this article &amp; I have some comments on it.</p>
<p>1) I agree w/ Nick &amp; Jumblepudding&#8217;s idea of making music from this but think it should be done from a casting of the original.  That&#8217;s so that, hopefully, there will be DNA testing on the original.  Jumblepudding&#8217;s suggesion of Ian Anderson is great!</p>
<p>2) I, of course, haven&#8217;t seen the original, but, speaking now as a senior-level archaeologist, in looking at the pic, &amp; contrary to what the article says, I think the flute is *not* intact.  The article says it&#8217;s a 5-holed flute, but clearly, there are only 4 holes showing.  There is evidence, at either end, of breakage; the broken ends might have been where other holes were.  Looking at these areas under a microscope (microwear analysis) could easily verify that.  So, if not intact, the actual no. of holes in the instrument is unknown &amp; further speculation such as &#8220;might be capable of expressing greater harmonic variety than the modern-day flute&#8221; (from the related article at <a href="http://discovermagazine.com/2010/jan-feb/051" rel="nofollow">http://discovermagazine.com/2010/jan-feb/051</a>) is just that&#8211; speculation.</p>
<p>3) Relating to Stephen&#8217;s comment which referenced an earlier Discover article, I am very disturbed that Discover would publish a &#8216;joke&#8217; article, which, unless you noticed the date&#8211; April 1st&#8211; appears otherwise to be scholarly &amp; serious.  I would like to think that I have a good sense of humor &amp; can appreciate that Discover may want to make science<br />
&#8216;entertaining&#8217; for the masses, but I, for one, think that science is fascinating enough without having to resort to such tactics!  I hope Discover has discontinued such &#8216;jokes&#8217;.  (Perhaps these &#8216;April 1st&#8217; articles could be more obviously labelled as joke articles.)</p>
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		<title>By: Angela Katherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela Katherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am convinced the music they produced back then is loads better than anything shown on MTV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am convinced the music they produced back then is loads better than anything shown on MTV.</p>
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		<title>By: Amber Lovett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amber Lovett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this was very helpful!!</description>
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		<title>By: Eliza Strickland</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/06/24/worlds-oldest-flute-shows-first-europeans-were-a-musical-bunch/#comment-9622</link>
		<dc:creator>Eliza Strickland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen -- you&#039;ve stumbled across one of DISCOVER&#039;s infamous spoof articles. Check the date on it -- April 1, 1997.

I know it&#039;s a little weird to see these articles in our archives, out of context, but there were some clues tucked into the article -- like the researcher&#039;s place of employment, Hindenburg University.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen &#8212; you&#8217;ve stumbled across one of DISCOVER&#8217;s infamous spoof articles. Check the date on it &#8212; April 1, 1997.</p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s a little weird to see these articles in our archives, out of context, but there were some clues tucked into the article &#8212; like the researcher&#8217;s place of employment, Hindenburg University.</p>
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		<title>By: Amit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just need to make sure before that the flute does not blow into pieces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just need to make sure before that the flute does not blow into pieces.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Early humans’ budding culture might have helped them survive while the Neanderthals, which left no concrete evidence of music-making, mysteriously died off.&quot;

I&#039;d like to challenge this statement.  There is an much earlier Discover article that indicates even the Neanderthals used musical instruments, including a mammoth tusk &quot;tuba&quot; and nose &quot;bagpipe&quot;.  According to the article, these instruments are ~50,000 years old and predate modern humans in Europe.

http://discovermagazine.com/1997/apr/andaoneandauhuh1108

Has this discovery been refuted or overturned?  Did modern humans learn from and refine their musical instruments from those created by their Neanderthal cousins?  Could these Stone Age people have worked together to form the world&#039;s first Rock band?   Anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Early humans’ budding culture might have helped them survive while the Neanderthals, which left no concrete evidence of music-making, mysteriously died off.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to challenge this statement.  There is an much earlier Discover article that indicates even the Neanderthals used musical instruments, including a mammoth tusk &#8220;tuba&#8221; and nose &#8220;bagpipe&#8221;.  According to the article, these instruments are ~50,000 years old and predate modern humans in Europe.</p>
<p><a href="http://discovermagazine.com/1997/apr/andaoneandauhuh1108" rel="nofollow">http://discovermagazine.com/1997/apr/andaoneandauhuh1108</a></p>
<p>Has this discovery been refuted or overturned?  Did modern humans learn from and refine their musical instruments from those created by their Neanderthal cousins?  Could these Stone Age people have worked together to form the world&#8217;s first Rock band?   Anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Jumblepudding</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jumblepudding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  Somebody should play it.  I vote Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull. I wonder if stone age children who elected to play flute in band were ridiculed the way they are today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  Somebody should play it.  I vote Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull. I wonder if stone age children who elected to play flute in band were ridiculed the way they are today.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My question is: when does someone blow on this, record it and release the samples for cultural posterity? A flautist with an iron stomach will likely be required for such a gross task, but hey, it&#039;s for humanity&#039;s betterment, right?

Or at the very least 3d scan it and print it from one of those fancy 3d printers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My question is: when does someone blow on this, record it and release the samples for cultural posterity? A flautist with an iron stomach will likely be required for such a gross task, but hey, it&#8217;s for humanity&#8217;s betterment, right?</p>
<p>Or at the very least 3d scan it and print it from one of those fancy 3d printers.</p>
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