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	<title>Comments on: Methane Seeps From the Arctic Seabed, Spooking Climate Scientists</title>
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		<title>By: Gwenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gwenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 23:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, shades of Mother of Storms.  I&#039;m guessing climate scientists don&#039;t read fiction. LOL  Or else they do but not until it&#039;s old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, shades of Mother of Storms.  I&#8217;m guessing climate scientists don&#8217;t read fiction. LOL  Or else they do but not until it&#8217;s old.</p>
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		<title>By: Thelma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thelma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting conversations!
Hi! I&#039;m new here and my concern is not about what we have no control of in the issue of global warming, but what can we do.  It appear to me that earth have a natural course of being before humans populated it, and I wonder what it look like then. 
  All I know is that we had better start making changes now, because we are running out of resources and getting less immune to viruses that develop.

If there is a way to capture this methene gas for energy use, how great would that be!  
  Somehow, I believe we need to continue making plans to cut all gas-consumming cars,trucks and other vehicles-boats as soon as possible.  Using energy efficient lights bulbs have made a great dent in the reduction in the electrical energy we use. The LED bulbs are very popular for all kinds of lighting-Christmas trees, home and work.  We are truely in a battle to save the earth and all of its resources.  It is up to all of us to educate others and do something for the change. If we can  recycle water, eat one less cooked meal, cut down on meats, walk more or take public transportation, we would reduce global warming, and promote better health. 
Somehow, I believe that the public is becoming more educated from reading articles such as the one written on this subject.  I repect the idea that somebody is studying the effects of the methane gas under the sea because, 
it can impact earth in. There seem to be an order of underworld life that
we might not know everything about. 
 Focusing on the problem now will surely improve living on earth, tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting conversations!<br />
Hi! I&#8217;m new here and my concern is not about what we have no control of in the issue of global warming, but what can we do.  It appear to me that earth have a natural course of being before humans populated it, and I wonder what it look like then.<br />
  All I know is that we had better start making changes now, because we are running out of resources and getting less immune to viruses that develop.</p>
<p>If there is a way to capture this methene gas for energy use, how great would that be!<br />
  Somehow, I believe we need to continue making plans to cut all gas-consumming cars,trucks and other vehicles-boats as soon as possible.  Using energy efficient lights bulbs have made a great dent in the reduction in the electrical energy we use. The LED bulbs are very popular for all kinds of lighting-Christmas trees, home and work.  We are truely in a battle to save the earth and all of its resources.  It is up to all of us to educate others and do something for the change. If we can  recycle water, eat one less cooked meal, cut down on meats, walk more or take public transportation, we would reduce global warming, and promote better health.<br />
Somehow, I believe that the public is becoming more educated from reading articles such as the one written on this subject.  I repect the idea that somebody is studying the effects of the methane gas under the sea because,<br />
it can impact earth in. There seem to be an order of underworld life that<br />
we might not know everything about.<br />
 Focusing on the problem now will surely improve living on earth, tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: Arbitrary Arbiter</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/08/19/methane-seeps-from-the-arctic-seabed-spooking-climate-scientists/comment-page-1/#comment-43383</link>
		<dc:creator>Arbitrary Arbiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations, you have the rhetorical style of a four year old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations, you have the rhetorical style of a four year old.</p>
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		<title>By: Arbitrary Arbiter</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/08/19/methane-seeps-from-the-arctic-seabed-spooking-climate-scientists/comment-page-1/#comment-43373</link>
		<dc:creator>Arbitrary Arbiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once the stable, frozen methane under the seabed warms, it becomes unstable- even explosive. As the spitsbergen current of cold water warms and breaks down, there could be an underwater eruption of biblical proportions. The 1 degree change in 30 years is frightening. 2 degrees more will be a showstopper. I hope that I graduate in time to save us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once the stable, frozen methane under the seabed warms, it becomes unstable- even explosive. As the spitsbergen current of cold water warms and breaks down, there could be an underwater eruption of biblical proportions. The 1 degree change in 30 years is frightening. 2 degrees more will be a showstopper. I hope that I graduate in time to save us.</p>
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		<title>By: Arbitrary Arbiter</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/08/19/methane-seeps-from-the-arctic-seabed-spooking-climate-scientists/comment-page-1/#comment-43356</link>
		<dc:creator>Arbitrary Arbiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very funny. It is indeed possible to form opinions contrary to yours without watching Glen Beck. I don&#039;t watch Fox News, or listen to Rush Limbaugh Hannity Levin etc. I am not uneducated, ignorant, insane, or in Jr. High. My opinion differs from yours based on the available evidence. Grow up, you arrogant ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very funny. It is indeed possible to form opinions contrary to yours without watching Glen Beck. I don&#8217;t watch Fox News, or listen to Rush Limbaugh Hannity Levin etc. I am not uneducated, ignorant, insane, or in Jr. High. My opinion differs from yours based on the available evidence. Grow up, you arrogant ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Aussie John</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aussie John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have just survived the worst bushfire season on record here in the Victorian high country, in South Eastern Australia, after 13 years of below average rainfall, and record temperaturs of 47 degrees centigrade. 
There are not too many climate skeptics in these parts of the woods. Climate change in the once green lush temperate rain forests of Victoria is very obvious, whether it is man made or not. At the rate it is changing and the rate in which the local species are dying off, and the landscape changing to dryer woodlands,  I am finding it hard to believe it is a natural transition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have just survived the worst bushfire season on record here in the Victorian high country, in South Eastern Australia, after 13 years of below average rainfall, and record temperaturs of 47 degrees centigrade.<br />
There are not too many climate skeptics in these parts of the woods. Climate change in the once green lush temperate rain forests of Victoria is very obvious, whether it is man made or not. At the rate it is changing and the rate in which the local species are dying off, and the landscape changing to dryer woodlands,  I am finding it hard to believe it is a natural transition.</p>
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		<title>By: Arbitrary Arbiter</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/08/19/methane-seeps-from-the-arctic-seabed-spooking-climate-scientists/comment-page-1/#comment-43337</link>
		<dc:creator>Arbitrary Arbiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, you are right! I looked up what you said in my Jr. High library, and I realized that Glen Beck has been wrong for as long as I&#039;ve listened to him!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, you are right! I looked up what you said in my Jr. High library, and I realized that Glen Beck has been wrong for as long as I&#8217;ve listened to him!</p>
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		<title>By: Henny</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/08/19/methane-seeps-from-the-arctic-seabed-spooking-climate-scientists/comment-page-1/#comment-43333</link>
		<dc:creator>Henny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The scariest thing is how rapidly the current is warming. 1° in 30 years! Does anyone else think that the Big Blue Marble came with a reset  button?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The scariest thing is how rapidly the current is warming. 1° in 30 years! Does anyone else think that the Big Blue Marble came with a reset  button?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan G</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/08/19/methane-seeps-from-the-arctic-seabed-spooking-climate-scientists/comment-page-1/#comment-43260</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 01:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will H. - Ironically, it was an &quot;oxygen crisis&quot; that first threatened life on earth, oxygen was a waste gas produced by the activity of life. But some methanegens survived, clinging to life in anoxic mud-holes, deep abysses, and animal guts...well most points on global warming are being covered, but the real question is how to harvest these methane hydrates and/or gas seeps for &quot;green&quot; energy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will H. &#8211; Ironically, it was an &#8220;oxygen crisis&#8221; that first threatened life on earth, oxygen was a waste gas produced by the activity of life. But some methanegens survived, clinging to life in anoxic mud-holes, deep abysses, and animal guts&#8230;well most points on global warming are being covered, but the real question is how to harvest these methane hydrates and/or gas seeps for &#8220;green&#8221; energy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think about it - in 150 years humans have gorged themselves on 50% of the hydrocarbons that took 300 million years (300,000,000) to accumulate. All this potential energy was released into our biosphere in a relative &quot;nanosecond&quot; of time.  And there are people - humans - who deny that this will not affect our Earth?  They have their heads in the sand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think about it &#8211; in 150 years humans have gorged themselves on 50% of the hydrocarbons that took 300 million years (300,000,000) to accumulate. All this potential energy was released into our biosphere in a relative &#8220;nanosecond&#8221; of time.  And there are people &#8211; humans &#8211; who deny that this will not affect our Earth?  They have their heads in the sand.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Schmidt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/08/19/methane-seeps-from-the-arctic-seabed-spooking-climate-scientists/comment-page-1/#comment-43080</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think we&#039;re going to get any content from Arbiter, so I&#039;ll just return to the subject of this post.

According to David Archer&#039;s The Long Thaw, not much methane was released from clathrates following the end of prior ice ages.  He points out though that this time might be different, because the ice-age release areas only built up methane during tens of thousands of years between interglacials.  By contrast, sometime this century we will take temperatures to levels not seen for hundreds of thousand of years, if not a few million years.  That could break down clathrates in ocean floor areas that have had clathrate buildup for far longer than what we experienced during interglacial warming periods.

The discovery outlined in this post could help understand clathrate buildup as well as dissolution, so it could help us understand if we&#039;re entering extremely dangerous territory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re going to get any content from Arbiter, so I&#8217;ll just return to the subject of this post.</p>
<p>According to David Archer&#8217;s The Long Thaw, not much methane was released from clathrates following the end of prior ice ages.  He points out though that this time might be different, because the ice-age release areas only built up methane during tens of thousands of years between interglacials.  By contrast, sometime this century we will take temperatures to levels not seen for hundreds of thousand of years, if not a few million years.  That could break down clathrates in ocean floor areas that have had clathrate buildup for far longer than what we experienced during interglacial warming periods.</p>
<p>The discovery outlined in this post could help understand clathrate buildup as well as dissolution, so it could help us understand if we&#8217;re entering extremely dangerous territory.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arbitter- for a student, your grammar is as flawed as your logic. This post is for an exchange of ideas, not for rambling diatribes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arbitter- for a student, your grammar is as flawed as your logic. This post is for an exchange of ideas, not for rambling diatribes.</p>
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		<title>By: Arbitrary Arbiter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arbitrary Arbiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would hardly categorize efforts to present the other side of a complicated issue as trying to spread fear. 

As for your second point, my first post was focused on the substance of the article. You were the first person to start attacking individuals &quot;Do you even read the things you write?&quot;. I merely offered my defense to your unsolicited ad hominem attacks. I was called &quot;wantonly ignorant&quot; for having a differing opinion, so I explained that I came to rationally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would hardly categorize efforts to present the other side of a complicated issue as trying to spread fear. </p>
<p>As for your second point, my first post was focused on the substance of the article. You were the first person to start attacking individuals &#8220;Do you even read the things you write?&#8221;. I merely offered my defense to your unsolicited ad hominem attacks. I was called &#8220;wantonly ignorant&#8221; for having a differing opinion, so I explained that I came to rationally.</p>
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		<title>By: Christina Viering</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina Viering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, more fears spreading for the damage we are doing to our atmosphere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, more fears spreading for the damage we are doing to our atmosphere.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Schmidt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/08/19/methane-seeps-from-the-arctic-seabed-spooking-climate-scientists/comment-page-1/#comment-43049</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I have no interest in spreading fear; on the contrary, I would urge the residents of Earth to rest easy, for I believe they have no impending climate doom to fear.....When nations are poised to pass regulations of industry which will by all objective measures have substantial and negative economic effects in an attempt to alter the climate - a position I find to be erroneous or at best misguided....&quot;

Once again, a failure to read their own words.  Arbiter is trying to spread fear towards any action to combat greenhouse gas emissions.

Other than that, we&#039;re given a simple statement of his beliefs, which in my opinion is not very responsive to the scientific content of this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I have no interest in spreading fear; on the contrary, I would urge the residents of Earth to rest easy, for I believe they have no impending climate doom to fear&#8230;..When nations are poised to pass regulations of industry which will by all objective measures have substantial and negative economic effects in an attempt to alter the climate &#8211; a position I find to be erroneous or at best misguided&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Once again, a failure to read their own words.  Arbiter is trying to spread fear towards any action to combat greenhouse gas emissions.</p>
<p>Other than that, we&#8217;re given a simple statement of his beliefs, which in my opinion is not very responsive to the scientific content of this post.</p>
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