Comments on: Monkeys Like Happy Monkey Music (and Metallica) http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/09/02/monkeys-like-happy-monkey-music-and-metallica/ 80beats is DISCOVER's news aggregator, weaving together the choicest tidbits from the best articles covering the day\'s most compelling topics. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:50:00 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Dov Henis http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/09/02/monkeys-like-happy-monkey-music-and-metallica/comment-page-1/#comment-47648 Dov Henis Tue, 08 Sep 2009 08:40:28 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/09/02/monkeys-like-happy-monkey-music-and-metallica/#comment-47648 Music Is An Inherited Plus Paloved Trait A. "Play that monkey music" http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/46942/title/Play_that_monkey_music Man-made music inspired by tamarin calls seems to alter the primates’ emotions, a new study suggests. B. Music is both an inherited plus a Pavloved trait, characteristic Hearing plus memory are evolutionarily culturally selected for survival. Their combinations are both consequences of remembered emotions and - via a natural Pavlovian process - also inspirators of emotions. C. Also "Why Music Touches Us", Nov 2005 http://www.nature.com/news/2007/071210/full/news.2007.359.html My conjecture about music 'touching-moving' us: Music is a human cultural-artifactual elaboration of creatures' vocal communication which is an extension-elaboration of >24 wks-old in-womb fetus' and of newborns' intimate safe-coddle-sooth experiences. Both 'touch' and 'hear' senses are founded on mechanical sensing processes involving in-cell ions leakage forming electrical action potentials interpreted neurologically. I suggest-conjecture that the same neurological constellation may be handling both 'touch' and 'hear' senses, being of commom mechanisms and differing essentially only in switch-on modes, and that this evolves in all vocal creatures in conjunction with in-womb safe-feeling, and later with baby codling-handling and vocal soothing-communicating, and later also with intimate emotional implications. Hence music has 'engulfing-touching-emotional' connotation and personal music orientation has childhood-ethnic rootings. D. IMO a proper elucidation of music-memory-emotion complex in unavoidably long, since it should extend from fetal through adolescennt phases. Dov Henis (Comments From The 22nd Century) Updated Life's Manifest May 2009 http://www.the-scientist.com/community/posts/list/140/122.page#2321 EVOLUTION Beyond Darwin 200 http://www.the-scientist.com/community/posts/list/100/122.page#1407 Music Is An Inherited Plus Paloved Trait

A. “Play that monkey music”
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/46942/title/Play_that_monkey_music
Man-made music inspired by tamarin calls seems to alter the primates’ emotions, a new study suggests.

B. Music is both an inherited plus a Pavloved trait, characteristic

Hearing plus memory are evolutionarily culturally selected for survival. Their combinations are both consequences of remembered emotions and – via a natural Pavlovian process – also inspirators of emotions.

C. Also “Why Music Touches Us”, Nov 2005
http://www.nature.com/news/2007/071210/full/news.2007.359.html

My conjecture about music ‘touching-moving’ us:

Music is a human cultural-artifactual elaboration of creatures’ vocal communication which is an extension-elaboration of >24 wks-old in-womb fetus’ and of newborns’ intimate safe-coddle-sooth experiences. Both ‘touch’ and ‘hear’ senses are founded on mechanical sensing processes involving in-cell ions leakage forming electrical action potentials interpreted neurologically.

I suggest-conjecture that the same neurological constellation may be handling both ‘touch’ and ‘hear’ senses, being of commom mechanisms and differing essentially only in switch-on modes, and that this evolves in all vocal creatures in conjunction with in-womb safe-feeling, and later with baby codling-handling and vocal soothing-communicating, and later also with intimate emotional implications. Hence music has ‘engulfing-touching-emotional’ connotation and personal music orientation has childhood-ethnic rootings.

D. IMO a proper elucidation of music-memory-emotion complex in unavoidably long,

since it should extend from fetal through adolescennt phases.

Dov Henis
(Comments From The 22nd Century)
Updated Life’s Manifest May 2009
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/posts/list/140/122.page#2321
EVOLUTION Beyond Darwin 200
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/posts/list/100/122.page#1407

]]> By: Justin http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/09/02/monkeys-like-happy-monkey-music-and-metallica/comment-page-1/#comment-46776 Justin Fri, 04 Sep 2009 04:10:26 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/09/02/monkeys-like-happy-monkey-music-and-metallica/#comment-46776 reminds me of the Metalocalypse episode where Dethklok was playing to fish :) and i did see where they also played them Nine Inch Nails reminds me of the Metalocalypse episode where Dethklok was playing to fish :)
and i did see where they also played them Nine Inch Nails

]]> By: Brian http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/09/02/monkeys-like-happy-monkey-music-and-metallica/comment-page-1/#comment-46732 Brian Thu, 03 Sep 2009 23:25:55 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/09/02/monkeys-like-happy-monkey-music-and-metallica/#comment-46732 Metallica Makes Mad Monkey Music! Metallica Makes Mad Monkey Music!

]]> By: YouRang http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/09/02/monkeys-like-happy-monkey-music-and-metallica/comment-page-1/#comment-46600 YouRang Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:11:23 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/09/02/monkeys-like-happy-monkey-music-and-metallica/#comment-46600 I remember the time we heard a lone howler monkey making his sounds, and I had thought "I bet I could make that sound". So I did and the howler sat straight up turned around and looked straight at me and started howling more. I matched for a little bit, and he increased his howling. I eventually quit since I felt kind of bad since I didn't know what I had been saying. (To be honest, I kind of thought he/she might be the only one in the zoo (and hence lonely) so it might be a poster child for those opposed to zoos in general.) I remember the time we heard a lone howler monkey making his sounds, and I had thought “I bet I could make that sound”. So I did and the howler sat straight up turned around and looked straight at me and started howling more. I matched for a little bit, and he increased his howling. I eventually quit since I felt kind of bad since I didn’t know what I had been saying. (To be honest, I kind of thought he/she might be the only one in the zoo (and hence lonely) so it might be a poster child for those opposed to zoos in general.)

]]> By: Jumblepudding http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/09/02/monkeys-like-happy-monkey-music-and-metallica/comment-page-1/#comment-46588 Jumblepudding Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:53:10 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/09/02/monkeys-like-happy-monkey-music-and-metallica/#comment-46588 To be fair, they should play other thrash metal bands to see which one is best liked by tamarins. Metallica is just the tip of the iceberg. To be fair, they should play other thrash metal bands to see which one is best liked by tamarins. Metallica is just the tip of the iceberg.

]]> By: Cory http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/09/02/monkeys-like-happy-monkey-music-and-metallica/comment-page-1/#comment-46413 Cory Wed, 02 Sep 2009 22:44:28 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/09/02/monkeys-like-happy-monkey-music-and-metallica/#comment-46413 I kinda dig the happy music. The "threatening" music just sounds like scat jazz imo. I kinda dig the happy music. The “threatening” music just sounds like scat jazz imo.

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