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	<title>Comments on: Four-Winged Dino Clinches the Case for Bird Evolution</title>
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		<title>By: Xenacanthus</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/09/28/four-winged-dino-clinches-the-case-for-bird-evolution/#comment-12209</link>
		<dc:creator>Xenacanthus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting find.  My biggest concern would be the dating of the Chinese formations versus that of the Solnhofen, to indeed ensure the Chinese fossils were older than those of Archaeopterix.  Absolute dates versus relative dates can be an issue, and in a case like this, I would want to be certain I didn&#039;t jump the gun any.  Not knowing how the dates have been determined - I find Archaeopterix at 150 MY in several sources but don&#039;t know how that date has been obtained - it&#039;s hard to analyze from limited information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting find.  My biggest concern would be the dating of the Chinese formations versus that of the Solnhofen, to indeed ensure the Chinese fossils were older than those of Archaeopterix.  Absolute dates versus relative dates can be an issue, and in a case like this, I would want to be certain I didn&#8217;t jump the gun any.  Not knowing how the dates have been determined &#8211; I find Archaeopterix at 150 MY in several sources but don&#8217;t know how that date has been obtained &#8211; it&#8217;s hard to analyze from limited information.</p>
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		<title>By: amphiox</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/09/28/four-winged-dino-clinches-the-case-for-bird-evolution/#comment-12208</link>
		<dc:creator>amphiox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing about that celebrated hoax from China is that it was made by gluing together two REAL fossils, both found in that quarry, close to each other. One was a dinosaur, and the other an ancient bird. And BOTH fossils (as far as I know) turned out to be previously unknown species, and BOTH fossils have advanced our knowledge of the evolution of birds and dinosaurs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing about that celebrated hoax from China is that it was made by gluing together two REAL fossils, both found in that quarry, close to each other. One was a dinosaur, and the other an ancient bird. And BOTH fossils (as far as I know) turned out to be previously unknown species, and BOTH fossils have advanced our knowledge of the evolution of birds and dinosaurs.</p>
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		<title>By: Eupraxsophy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eupraxsophy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s no more POPPYCOCK then Creationism, or it&#039;s dressed-up name Intelligent Design.   If this does turn out to be a hoax like the Pelt Down Man or Intelligent Design then the truth will expose it as deception.

I only hope that if it is true and scientist are objective about weighing it with truth as opposed to being doubtful and biased like some I.D. proponents as I suspect, then the truth will be known.

Knowledge and wisdom are the subjects to the nobility of truth so if thy caution thyself not to be the fool, yet thy have a boastful tongue let it be that which rest upon thy head the Crown of Truth. For integrity of the wise is found in truth, so where shall it be found in that of the fool?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s no more POPPYCOCK then Creationism, or it&#8217;s dressed-up name Intelligent Design.   If this does turn out to be a hoax like the Pelt Down Man or Intelligent Design then the truth will expose it as deception.</p>
<p>I only hope that if it is true and scientist are objective about weighing it with truth as opposed to being doubtful and biased like some I.D. proponents as I suspect, then the truth will be known.</p>
<p>Knowledge and wisdom are the subjects to the nobility of truth so if thy caution thyself not to be the fool, yet thy have a boastful tongue let it be that which rest upon thy head the Crown of Truth. For integrity of the wise is found in truth, so where shall it be found in that of the fool?</p>
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		<title>By: Birdzilla</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/09/28/four-winged-dino-clinches-the-case-for-bird-evolution/#comment-12206</link>
		<dc:creator>Birdzilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 05:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still trying to prove this silly evolution bull kaka trying to prove this nonsense that all the birds evolved from dinasours WHAT POPPYCOCK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still trying to prove this silly evolution bull kaka trying to prove this nonsense that all the birds evolved from dinasours WHAT POPPYCOCK</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/09/28/four-winged-dino-clinches-the-case-for-bird-evolution/#comment-12205</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Arv, I see that you had a big bowl of crazy for breakfast, and apparently went back for seconds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Arv, I see that you had a big bowl of crazy for breakfast, and apparently went back for seconds.</p>
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		<title>By: cleon dann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/09/28/four-winged-dino-clinches-the-case-for-bird-evolution/#comment-12204</link>
		<dc:creator>cleon dann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 06:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i know that... i think it is an older post... i love to collect information about dinosaurs... and mammals... I also like extra terrestrial things  and also want to know about universe...

regards
cleon dann</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i know that&#8230; i think it is an older post&#8230; i love to collect information about dinosaurs&#8230; and mammals&#8230; I also like extra terrestrial things  and also want to know about universe&#8230;</p>
<p>regards<br />
cleon dann</p>
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		<title>By: Arv Edgeworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arv Edgeworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of you that still believe dinosaurs turned into birds, did you know the word &quot;gullible&quot; isn&#039;t in the dictionary?

Have any of you ever considered the thought that maybe some dinosaurs could fly, and some birds can&#039;t? A flying dinosaur wouldn&#039;t prove they turned into a bird kind, which is very different. I just wonder why you are so determined that they have to. Couldn&#039;t be because of your philosophical worldview could it?

You have probably also accepted the nonsense that the whale has hind limb bones that are vestigial and serve no function, that were left over from when they had four legs and walked on land. You do know don&#039;t you that those bones are organ anchors and they can&#039;t reproduce without them? They are not connected to the vertibral column with no evidence they ever were. The drawings of the so-called whale evolution were from a few bones and an artist&#039;s reconstruction of what they may have looked like.

Change &quot;Once upon a time, long ago and far away,&quot; to &quot;millions of years ago,&quot; and suddenly it becomes believable. You need to rename this. Call it: &quot;From the Goo to You, By Way of the Zoo.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you that still believe dinosaurs turned into birds, did you know the word &#8220;gullible&#8221; isn&#8217;t in the dictionary?</p>
<p>Have any of you ever considered the thought that maybe some dinosaurs could fly, and some birds can&#8217;t? A flying dinosaur wouldn&#8217;t prove they turned into a bird kind, which is very different. I just wonder why you are so determined that they have to. Couldn&#8217;t be because of your philosophical worldview could it?</p>
<p>You have probably also accepted the nonsense that the whale has hind limb bones that are vestigial and serve no function, that were left over from when they had four legs and walked on land. You do know don&#8217;t you that those bones are organ anchors and they can&#8217;t reproduce without them? They are not connected to the vertibral column with no evidence they ever were. The drawings of the so-called whale evolution were from a few bones and an artist&#8217;s reconstruction of what they may have looked like.</p>
<p>Change &#8220;Once upon a time, long ago and far away,&#8221; to &#8220;millions of years ago,&#8221; and suddenly it becomes believable. You need to rename this. Call it: &#8220;From the Goo to You, By Way of the Zoo.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: dave howard</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/09/28/four-winged-dino-clinches-the-case-for-bird-evolution/#comment-12202</link>
		<dc:creator>dave howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw something on TV about it.  Looks to be about the size of a hawk.  Scientists on show agreed that it was a glider and in wind tunnel tests figured out that the back legs extended behind it as a sort of rudder.  My guess is that as wings evolved, the &quot;rear wings&quot; became redundant and only created drag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw something on TV about it.  Looks to be about the size of a hawk.  Scientists on show agreed that it was a glider and in wind tunnel tests figured out that the back legs extended behind it as a sort of rudder.  My guess is that as wings evolved, the &#8220;rear wings&#8221; became redundant and only created drag.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Cook</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/09/28/four-winged-dino-clinches-the-case-for-bird-evolution/#comment-12201</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 03:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been trying to find out about the size and weight of this creature, can anyone help?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been trying to find out about the size and weight of this creature, can anyone help?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/09/28/four-winged-dino-clinches-the-case-for-bird-evolution/#comment-12200</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first thought is that I hope this isn&#039;t another hoax perpetrated by some Chinese folks looking for fame and fortune and a bit of fun at the West&#039;s expense. It has happened more than once before.

If confirmed [with more fossil evidence] it would add to the growing evidence that birds are latter day dinosaurs. That is pretty cool, as science goes nowadays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first thought is that I hope this isn&#8217;t another hoax perpetrated by some Chinese folks looking for fame and fortune and a bit of fun at the West&#8217;s expense. It has happened more than once before.</p>
<p>If confirmed [with more fossil evidence] it would add to the growing evidence that birds are latter day dinosaurs. That is pretty cool, as science goes nowadays.</p>
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