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	<title>Comments on: A Fossil Named Ardi Shakes Up Humanity&#039;s Family Tree</title>
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		<title>By: sschwartz</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/10/01/a-fossil-named-ardi-shakes-up-humanitys-family-tree/#comment-12300</link>
		<dc:creator>sschwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all those who keep asking &quot;why is the chimpanzee not turning human&quot; please re read the article. It in fact clearly stated that chimpanzees evolved more than humans did in the past 6 million or so years. However, that &quot;branch&quot; of the chimpanzee family that&#039;s still around today evolved into what chimps are today. They became more chimp and less human just like humans became less chimps and more human and if you can&#039;t see the common link between that...i&#039;m glad we don&#039;t share the same faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all those who keep asking &#8220;why is the chimpanzee not turning human&#8221; please re read the article. It in fact clearly stated that chimpanzees evolved more than humans did in the past 6 million or so years. However, that &#8220;branch&#8221; of the chimpanzee family that&#8217;s still around today evolved into what chimps are today. They became more chimp and less human just like humans became less chimps and more human and if you can&#8217;t see the common link between that&#8230;i&#8217;m glad we don&#8217;t share the same faith.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s funny people still argue the possibility that humans evolved from ancient apes.  I guess some of us still need to make that evolutionary step in thinking.

It&#039;s even funnier when creationists use the argument, &quot;ok, if you don&#039;t believe in a creator, then where did the big bang come from?&quot;... the same argument can be used against you guys.  Where did &quot;God&quot; come from?  Everything, as you say, needs a creator.  So who/what created your creator?  I don&#039;t see how people can easily dissuade the possibility of spontaneous creation caused by a reaction of matter and anti-matter (Big Bang), but the idea of a spontaneous creator coming into existence on his/her/its own, is perfectly plausible.

I think it just comes down to people not feeling comfortable shedding their beliefs that are reinforced by religious dogma.  If you do, you begin to feel very small.  They like to feel like miraculous creations orchestrated by an omnipotent invisible architect who watches over them 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.  If I truly believed that notion, I probably wouldn&#039;t want to shed my security blanket either.  It&#039;s just sad that our progression of thought as a civilization and species has become caught on this point.  We won&#039;t be able to continue to evolve until all of us accept the possibility that there is no &quot;God&quot; as religion portrays him.  But rather, a set of principles and circumstances that fall perfectly into place, and creation is the result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s funny people still argue the possibility that humans evolved from ancient apes.  I guess some of us still need to make that evolutionary step in thinking.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s even funnier when creationists use the argument, &#8220;ok, if you don&#8217;t believe in a creator, then where did the big bang come from?&#8221;&#8230; the same argument can be used against you guys.  Where did &#8220;God&#8221; come from?  Everything, as you say, needs a creator.  So who/what created your creator?  I don&#8217;t see how people can easily dissuade the possibility of spontaneous creation caused by a reaction of matter and anti-matter (Big Bang), but the idea of a spontaneous creator coming into existence on his/her/its own, is perfectly plausible.</p>
<p>I think it just comes down to people not feeling comfortable shedding their beliefs that are reinforced by religious dogma.  If you do, you begin to feel very small.  They like to feel like miraculous creations orchestrated by an omnipotent invisible architect who watches over them 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.  If I truly believed that notion, I probably wouldn&#8217;t want to shed my security blanket either.  It&#8217;s just sad that our progression of thought as a civilization and species has become caught on this point.  We won&#8217;t be able to continue to evolve until all of us accept the possibility that there is no &#8220;God&#8221; as religion portrays him.  But rather, a set of principles and circumstances that fall perfectly into place, and creation is the result.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 23:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me like Anphiox &amp; PiltDOWNER axis...  Entertaining!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me like Anphiox &amp; PiltDOWNER axis&#8230;  Entertaining!</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 23:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-some funny comments, and some TOO serious, and lengthy to read!-

Ardi had a cousin on the Asian side.  A few million years later, genetically, &#039;he&#039; made his way to an area South of the Aral Sea.  I call him Amu.  [Ahh Moo]  He invented Speech, and many things involved in Civilization.  He was a GREAT walker, with his evolved feet.

-Much variety existed WITHIN the Species.-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-some funny comments, and some TOO serious, and lengthy to read!-</p>
<p>Ardi had a cousin on the Asian side.  A few million years later, genetically, &#8216;he&#8217; made his way to an area South of the Aral Sea.  I call him Amu.  [Ahh Moo]  He invented Speech, and many things involved in Civilization.  He was a GREAT walker, with his evolved feet.</p>
<p>-Much variety existed WITHIN the Species.-</p>
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		<title>By: Pontifex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pontifex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 17:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a major issue in this discussion is the tendency of people to make assumptions about any given speaker&#039;s background or motivations. When someone says they believe in God, it&#039;s not up to another person to assume that means they are a Christian, and that, in being a Christian, they are fundamentally (no pun intended) incapable of responding to logic or reason. For example, #41 is making some huge assumptions about the way any given Christian&#039;s mind might work. Deciding to follow a certain religion for any reason (and, yes, there are so many more reasons than the one you might be thinking) is not like turning on a magic switch and - voila! - Now that I&#039;m a Christian, I can only interpret the Bible as being the literal and infallible and authoritative lens through which all truth must pass! I would rather argue that the vast majority of religious people do not at all see their world this way, but rather appreciate their religion as a broken tradition that can and does offer a framework for everyday life that science cannot. I believe these same people read articles like this and are absolutely captivated by the awesomeness of what science can offer.

Unfortunately, the science-religion debate has become a case of the squeaky wheels getting the oil. Only the small percentage of people who are angry, judgmental, ignorant fundamentalists raise their voice because the rest of the religious people see it as a wasted enterprise to argue and would much rather listen and learn. In the same vein, only the very most smug and arrogant scientists make the decision that the supernatural is within their realm of understanding or even theorizing. These are the ones that define the debate. I implore us all to remember that the vast majority of people can and do reconcile both sides of this argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a major issue in this discussion is the tendency of people to make assumptions about any given speaker&#8217;s background or motivations. When someone says they believe in God, it&#8217;s not up to another person to assume that means they are a Christian, and that, in being a Christian, they are fundamentally (no pun intended) incapable of responding to logic or reason. For example, #41 is making some huge assumptions about the way any given Christian&#8217;s mind might work. Deciding to follow a certain religion for any reason (and, yes, there are so many more reasons than the one you might be thinking) is not like turning on a magic switch and &#8211; voila! &#8211; Now that I&#8217;m a Christian, I can only interpret the Bible as being the literal and infallible and authoritative lens through which all truth must pass! I would rather argue that the vast majority of religious people do not at all see their world this way, but rather appreciate their religion as a broken tradition that can and does offer a framework for everyday life that science cannot. I believe these same people read articles like this and are absolutely captivated by the awesomeness of what science can offer.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the science-religion debate has become a case of the squeaky wheels getting the oil. Only the small percentage of people who are angry, judgmental, ignorant fundamentalists raise their voice because the rest of the religious people see it as a wasted enterprise to argue and would much rather listen and learn. In the same vein, only the very most smug and arrogant scientists make the decision that the supernatural is within their realm of understanding or even theorizing. These are the ones that define the debate. I implore us all to remember that the vast majority of people can and do reconcile both sides of this argument.</p>
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		<title>By: Katelyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katelyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the is actually no proof ardi had fur. therefore he could have looked fairly humanistic. just saying. fossils are only bone. this doesn&#039;t disprove creationism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the is actually no proof ardi had fur. therefore he could have looked fairly humanistic. just saying. fossils are only bone. this doesn&#8217;t disprove creationism.</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge Castillo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorge Castillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I attacking your delusive belief?  The fact is that the truth will enligthen what now is obscure.  We will see at the end of the road who is being brainwashed.  I&#039;m sorry I can not help with those mind blinded who refuse to accept the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I attacking your delusive belief?  The fact is that the truth will enligthen what now is obscure.  We will see at the end of the road who is being brainwashed.  I&#8217;m sorry I can not help with those mind blinded who refuse to accept the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don&#039;t the ignorant, brainwashed religious folks blog elsewhere?  This blog is for science lovers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t the ignorant, brainwashed religious folks blog elsewhere?  This blog is for science lovers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge Castillo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorge Castillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 05:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks to me very silly by part of those guys who are amazed for this discovery and they are expecting creationists to react in defence of their belief.  In fact, there is nothing to defend.  God and His creation speaks by itself.  The new so-called discovery is one more of the fantasies some researchers bring to life to make the Science believers to keep worshipping the religion of Science which, in fact is a false religion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks to me very silly by part of those guys who are amazed for this discovery and they are expecting creationists to react in defence of their belief.  In fact, there is nothing to defend.  God and His creation speaks by itself.  The new so-called discovery is one more of the fantasies some researchers bring to life to make the Science believers to keep worshipping the religion of Science which, in fact is a false religion.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good find!
In response to some of the religious banter;
In a christian&#039;s eyes, he can only believe what the bible tells him, and the bible tells him that the truths in it will look stupid or silly or incomprehensible to the fleshly person (which they do) because the bible is spiritually discerned.
Now what this says is that there is no real arguing with christianity, there is a big enough turtle shell in that verse to last them to the end of their lives. Even though there is plenty of logic and reasoning to grind any [silly] idea to dust that comes from the scriptures.

Someone once said that you can&#039;t convince someone of a thing they already don&#039;t agree with (although not entirely true, a good principle to live by)
And just as long as i am allowed to think freely, i&#039;ll try to keep my hair out of other people&#039;s faces.
...although arguing /is/ fun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good find!<br />
In response to some of the religious banter;<br />
In a christian&#8217;s eyes, he can only believe what the bible tells him, and the bible tells him that the truths in it will look stupid or silly or incomprehensible to the fleshly person (which they do) because the bible is spiritually discerned.<br />
Now what this says is that there is no real arguing with christianity, there is a big enough turtle shell in that verse to last them to the end of their lives. Even though there is plenty of logic and reasoning to grind any [silly] idea to dust that comes from the scriptures.</p>
<p>Someone once said that you can&#8217;t convince someone of a thing they already don&#8217;t agree with (although not entirely true, a good principle to live by)<br />
And just as long as i am allowed to think freely, i&#8217;ll try to keep my hair out of other people&#8217;s faces.<br />
&#8230;although arguing /is/ fun</p>
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