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	<title>Comments on: How to Create a Black Hole on a Lab Bench</title>
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		<title>By: Etherian</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/10/14/how-to-create-a-black-hole-on-a-lab-bench/comment-page-1/#comment-66457</link>
		<dc:creator>Etherian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What happened to you?&quot;
&quot;I stuck my finger in the middle of a black hole.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What happened to you?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;I stuck my finger in the middle of a black hole.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: boomboko</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/10/14/how-to-create-a-black-hole-on-a-lab-bench/comment-page-1/#comment-62774</link>
		<dc:creator>boomboko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just really want to put my finger right in the middle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just really want to put my finger right in the middle</p>
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		<title>By: A virbrant hue of Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>A virbrant hue of Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In regards to meta-physics,  a device that is capable of bending the visible spectrum would begin to distort our understanding of reality as a matter-perception concept. Reality would begin to fall away from the senses that humans naturally have and start coalescing into intangible forms... Thus Plato strikes again...

*sigh*... Aristotle (R.I.P.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to meta-physics,  a device that is capable of bending the visible spectrum would begin to distort our understanding of reality as a matter-perception concept. Reality would begin to fall away from the senses that humans naturally have and start coalescing into intangible forms&#8230; Thus Plato strikes again&#8230;</p>
<p>*sigh*&#8230; Aristotle (R.I.P.)</p>
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		<title>By: Beleth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beleth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 05:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you cant realize the extent of the research at hand ...........this has enormous consequences for humanity. First it proves that logic and reason are the faculties of the divine. Second it will prove to be usefull in fulfilling human destiny. Most importantly a device which is capable of capturing electromagnetic waves/forces in an infite loop means as the researcher indicated a matter of short time before they bend our visible specter of the light. Hahahahahah that has huge implication dont you realize ?????????????? if not read some meta-physics........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you cant realize the extent of the research at hand &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..this has enormous consequences for humanity. First it proves that logic and reason are the faculties of the divine. Second it will prove to be usefull in fulfilling human destiny. Most importantly a device which is capable of capturing electromagnetic waves/forces in an infite loop means as the researcher indicated a matter of short time before they bend our visible specter of the light. Hahahahahah that has huge implication dont you realize ?????????????? if not read some meta-physics&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Sir Wilhelm</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/10/14/how-to-create-a-black-hole-on-a-lab-bench/comment-page-1/#comment-59517</link>
		<dc:creator>Sir Wilhelm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They created the &quot;effect&quot; of a black hole with &quot;meta-material&quot; that affects electromagnetic waves, without the extreme gravity the &quot;black hole&quot; theory originally called for. Could it be the light bending and other light effects supposedly explained by &quot;event horizons&quot; added on to the original theory, are the visisble effects of natural electromagnetic phenomenon and not &quot;black holes&quot;? LIGO has failed to find gravity waves, after 5 years of operation, and gravitons have yet to be shown to exist, without them, there are no black holes, and no Big Bang, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They created the &#8220;effect&#8221; of a black hole with &#8220;meta-material&#8221; that affects electromagnetic waves, without the extreme gravity the &#8220;black hole&#8221; theory originally called for. Could it be the light bending and other light effects supposedly explained by &#8220;event horizons&#8221; added on to the original theory, are the visisble effects of natural electromagnetic phenomenon and not &#8220;black holes&#8221;? LIGO has failed to find gravity waves, after 5 years of operation, and gravitons have yet to be shown to exist, without them, there are no black holes, and no Big Bang, either.</p>
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		<title>By: william eigen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/10/14/how-to-create-a-black-hole-on-a-lab-bench/comment-page-1/#comment-59133</link>
		<dc:creator>william eigen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob, where is this beach? If we all go with you, will we all be able to get back home. I&#039;m in the dark about this---you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, where is this beach? If we all go with you, will we all be able to get back home. I&#8217;m in the dark about this&#8212;you?</p>
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		<title>By: Chester</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/10/14/how-to-create-a-black-hole-on-a-lab-bench/comment-page-1/#comment-58773</link>
		<dc:creator>Chester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This &#039;hole&#039; was already devised in the 1800s, called the light-energy converter. Just because people don&#039;t know of an experiment or device, doesn&#039;t mean they created it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This &#8216;hole&#8217; was already devised in the 1800s, called the light-energy converter. Just because people don&#8217;t know of an experiment or device, doesn&#8217;t mean they created it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruggero Volponi</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/10/14/how-to-create-a-black-hole-on-a-lab-bench/comment-page-1/#comment-58703</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruggero Volponi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wich is the difference respect a convergent lens for microwaves?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wich is the difference respect a convergent lens for microwaves?</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Quigley</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/10/14/how-to-create-a-black-hole-on-a-lab-bench/comment-page-1/#comment-58691</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Quigley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may impact how we collect solar energy, perhaps converting more light to heat in to power steam turbines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may impact how we collect solar energy, perhaps converting more light to heat in to power steam turbines.</p>
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		<title>By: addicted to bad</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/10/14/how-to-create-a-black-hole-on-a-lab-bench/comment-page-1/#comment-58674</link>
		<dc:creator>addicted to bad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes.</p>
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		<title>By: torres</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/10/14/how-to-create-a-black-hole-on-a-lab-bench/comment-page-1/#comment-58661</link>
		<dc:creator>torres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that this will have some real practical usage in the future, they just need to find an application for it.  Apparently the other commentors either lack imagination or don&#039;t know about the implications meta-material could have for us, they should look into it&#039;s promise. By the way, is any experimentaion that yields some result truly a waste of time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that this will have some real practical usage in the future, they just need to find an application for it.  Apparently the other commentors either lack imagination or don&#8217;t know about the implications meta-material could have for us, they should look into it&#8217;s promise. By the way, is any experimentaion that yields some result truly a waste of time?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 03:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so this is just a fancy way to keep refracting the incoming waves until all the energy is either absorbed?  Hope they don&#039;t waste too many time writing a paper on this until they come up with a good excuse to be working on this, cos so far a sheet of lead seems to be just as effective in translating microwaves into heat...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so this is just a fancy way to keep refracting the incoming waves until all the energy is either absorbed?  Hope they don&#8217;t waste too many time writing a paper on this until they come up with a good excuse to be working on this, cos so far a sheet of lead seems to be just as effective in translating microwaves into heat&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Calv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously, it&#039;s a nice trick but comparing it a black hole is a stretch. I mean it seems to be more of a... microwave funnel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, it&#8217;s a nice trick but comparing it a black hole is a stretch. I mean it seems to be more of a&#8230; microwave funnel.</p>
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		<title>By: NewEnglandBob</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/10/14/how-to-create-a-black-hole-on-a-lab-bench/comment-page-1/#comment-58463</link>
		<dc:creator>NewEnglandBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I already have a device that converts light into heat. Its called a beach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I already have a device that converts light into heat. Its called a beach.</p>
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		<title>By: dr soda pop</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/10/14/how-to-create-a-black-hole-on-a-lab-bench/comment-page-1/#comment-58439</link>
		<dc:creator>dr soda pop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be clear, at best call this a mock black hole with some mathematical analogy to the real thing, at worst a gimmick.  The bench this sits on will induce more space-time warpage than the device itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be clear, at best call this a mock black hole with some mathematical analogy to the real thing, at worst a gimmick.  The bench this sits on will induce more space-time warpage than the device itself.</p>
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