Comments on: Are There Pesticides in Your Soup? Dunk a Pollution Dipstick to Find Out. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/11/06/are-there-pesticides-in-your-soup-dunk-a-pollution-dipstick-to-find-out/ Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:34:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Angie http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/11/06/are-there-pesticides-in-your-soup-dunk-a-pollution-dipstick-to-find-out/#comment-13342 Angie Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:04:45 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/?p=5435#comment-13342 I know for sure (out of my own experience, as I tried both options), that you are far better off eating real vitamines (even those contained in the fruits mentioned on the "danger list"), rather than swallowing vitamine pills! As for pollution... name the city, you will find it in most places... polluted streets can be found even in 3rd world countries (surprisingly... or perhaps not... they are doing their best to live up to first world standards...) I am astonished (and not in a positive way) by people, who drive around proudly in huge vans, while everybody knows we are having this serious pollution issue going on. What amazes me is, that some of these people are otherwise responsible adults, but when it comes to environmental issues, most people still seem to think it´s a "weirdo issue" and so they have no obligation to even think about it. I know for sure (out of my own experience, as I tried both options), that you are far better off eating real vitamines (even those contained in the fruits mentioned on the “danger list”), rather than swallowing vitamine pills!

As for pollution… name the city, you will find it in most places… polluted streets can be found even in 3rd world countries (surprisingly… or perhaps not… they are doing their best to live up to first world standards…) I am astonished (and not in a positive way) by people, who drive around proudly in huge vans, while everybody knows we are having this serious pollution issue going on. What amazes me is, that some of these people are otherwise responsible adults, but when it comes to environmental issues, most people still seem to think it´s a “weirdo issue” and so they have no obligation to even think about it.

]]> By: Erik http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/11/06/are-there-pesticides-in-your-soup-dunk-a-pollution-dipstick-to-find-out/#comment-13341 Erik Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:54:48 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/?p=5435#comment-13341 Biomonitoring is the measurement of chemicals in body tissues, not soup. This can be truly useful information to help one determine if you have harmful levels of chemicals in your body. The problem is is can be difficult to interpret and the simple presence of chemicals in your body is not proof that any adverse harm will occur. Neither is a color shift on this test strip. The presence of trace amounts of anything is often unlikely to lead to adverse health effects. Forewarned is forearmed, I guess, but are we honestly as a society going to run around and test all our food before we eat it? Regarding the EWG list, I found this interesting: http://townhall.com/columnists/AngelaLogomasini/2009/09/14/not_so_peachy_advice The answer to all of this is probably for all of us to grow more of our own food for our families. Biomonitoring is the measurement of chemicals in body tissues, not soup. This can be truly useful information to help one determine if you have harmful levels of chemicals in your body. The problem is is can be difficult to interpret and the simple presence of chemicals in your body is not proof that any adverse harm will occur. Neither is a color shift on this test strip. The presence of trace amounts of anything is often unlikely to lead to adverse health effects. Forewarned is forearmed, I guess, but are we honestly as a society going to run around and test all our food before we eat it?

Regarding the EWG list, I found this interesting:
http://townhall.com/columnists/AngelaLogomasini/2009/09/14/not_so_peachy_advice

The answer to all of this is probably for all of us to grow more of our own food for our families.

]]> By: Art http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/11/06/are-there-pesticides-in-your-soup-dunk-a-pollution-dipstick-to-find-out/#comment-13340 Art Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:49:01 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/?p=5435#comment-13340 You're the man, Craig! 80% of the population is indeed stuck in a vacuous state of extrinsic belief. They are not only unable to think logically, but they are afraid to. They aren't just too lazy to think for themselves, but also too lazy to truly analyze what others have told them THEY believe. Why is white rice less expensive than brown; refined sugar cheaper than Turbinado; and pretty much all processed junk food cheaper than its natural counterpart? You’re the man, Craig!

80% of the population is indeed stuck in a vacuous state of extrinsic belief. They are not only unable to think logically, but they are afraid to. They aren’t just too lazy to think for themselves, but also too lazy to truly analyze what others have told them THEY believe.

Why is white rice less expensive than brown; refined sugar cheaper than Turbinado; and pretty much all processed junk food cheaper than its natural counterpart?

]]> By: Craig http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/11/06/are-there-pesticides-in-your-soup-dunk-a-pollution-dipstick-to-find-out/#comment-13339 Craig Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:25:16 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/?p=5435#comment-13339 The effects of pollutants on DNA can be inherited for at least 2 generations. What a mother ingests while her female fetus is in-utero effects the eggs that the fetus is developing for her lifetime. So the children of the fetus will contain the polluted DNA of the grandmother's bad choices. Hence, the cliche about things skipping a generation, like, I don't know, insanity? And, that's just a for-instance. Also, the biblical reference that the children will suffer for the sins of the mother. It seems some old-world superstitions may actually hold some water? http://www.ecosalon.com/air-pollution-dna/ Good luck convincing the ~80% of the population of 1st world countries who are incapable of Piaget's Formal Operational Mode of Cognitive Development that pollution is irresponsible and should be stopped (outlawed in my opinion), because I'm pretty sure they're addicted to their I.C.E. cars and trucks, plastics, and chemical run-offs , too. It's almost like they have a religious fervor for their polluting products, weird. I wonder why the advertisers learn NLP and "product placement" techniques. It's almost like they can't sell a product, unless they convince people not to use their better judgment. Wait a minute, didn't we create the FDA to stop snake-oil salesmen? Oh, right, lobbyists and special interests run the government, not our democratically elected representatives. The effects of pollutants on DNA can be inherited for at least 2 generations. What a mother ingests while her female fetus is in-utero effects the eggs that the fetus is developing for her lifetime. So the children of the fetus will contain the polluted DNA of the grandmother’s bad choices. Hence, the cliche about things skipping a generation, like, I don’t know, insanity? And, that’s just a for-instance. Also, the biblical reference that the children will suffer for the sins of the mother. It seems some old-world superstitions may actually hold some water?

http://www.ecosalon.com/air-pollution-dna/

Good luck convincing the ~80% of the population of 1st world countries who are incapable of Piaget’s Formal Operational Mode of Cognitive Development that pollution is irresponsible and should be stopped (outlawed in my opinion), because I’m pretty sure they’re addicted to their I.C.E. cars and trucks, plastics, and chemical run-offs , too. It’s almost like they have a religious fervor for their polluting products, weird. I wonder why the advertisers learn NLP and “product placement” techniques. It’s almost like they can’t sell a product, unless they convince people not to use their better judgment. Wait a minute, didn’t we create the FDA to stop snake-oil salesmen? Oh, right, lobbyists and special interests run the government, not our democratically elected representatives.

]]> By: Ian http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/11/06/are-there-pesticides-in-your-soup-dunk-a-pollution-dipstick-to-find-out/#comment-13338 Ian Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:14:56 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/?p=5435#comment-13338 I wonder which brands of foods would come up positive. According to the environmental working group these produce have the most pesticide use when grown conventionally: •peaches •apples •bell peppers •celery •nectarines •strawberries •cherries •kale •lettuce •imported grapes •carrots •pears I wonder which brands of foods would come up positive.
According to the environmental working group these produce have the most pesticide use when grown conventionally:
•peaches
•apples
•bell peppers
•celery
•nectarines
•strawberries
•cherries
•kale
•lettuce
•imported grapes
•carrots
•pears

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