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	<title>Comments on: Prosthetic Legs Aren&#039;t Better Than the Real Thing&#8230; Yet</title>
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		<title>By: Tbrad</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/11/09/prosthetic-legs-arent-better-than-the-real-thing-yet/#comment-13357</link>
		<dc:creator>Tbrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 17:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have thought that top speed determines the foot&#039;s impact on the ground and not vice versa, but hey, I don&#039;t work at MIT either, so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have thought that top speed determines the foot&#8217;s impact on the ground and not vice versa, but hey, I don&#8217;t work at MIT either, so.</p>
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		<title>By: Bionic Kommando</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/11/09/prosthetic-legs-arent-better-than-the-real-thing-yet/#comment-13356</link>
		<dc:creator>Bionic Kommando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 10:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>None of you people who take things for granted know what you are talking about and you know why? You are not an amputee. I lost my left leg below the knee in a motorcycle accident so I would say I have experience with what its like not having two real legs anymore. Your biological legs are something that can&#039;t be matched by engineers....yet. Trust me, I could do so much more faster and better with my two real legs than I can now. Climbing things, running, jumping, standing all day, hiking etc. As far as regeneration goes, I have no doubt that they can do that already but the thing is that type of tech isn&#039;t intended for us commoners. Only the richest and elitist will have access to that type of medical science. All I can say is this, if you are an amputee and you tell yourself and others people that you are happy with the situation then you are just lying to yourself. Everyday you know you wake up with regrets about your situation and sour feelings about what happened to you and how it affects your life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of you people who take things for granted know what you are talking about and you know why? You are not an amputee. I lost my left leg below the knee in a motorcycle accident so I would say I have experience with what its like not having two real legs anymore. Your biological legs are something that can&#8217;t be matched by engineers&#8230;.yet. Trust me, I could do so much more faster and better with my two real legs than I can now. Climbing things, running, jumping, standing all day, hiking etc. As far as regeneration goes, I have no doubt that they can do that already but the thing is that type of tech isn&#8217;t intended for us commoners. Only the richest and elitist will have access to that type of medical science. All I can say is this, if you are an amputee and you tell yourself and others people that you are happy with the situation then you are just lying to yourself. Everyday you know you wake up with regrets about your situation and sour feelings about what happened to you and how it affects your life.</p>
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		<title>By: tOM Trottier</title>
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		<dc:creator>tOM Trottier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Power may be reduced by 9%, but the weight that must be propelled is also reduced because artificial springy carbon fibre limbs are much lighter.

The study compared legs of single amputees. Having a fixed human leg also constrains the artificial limb in length and in rebound speed so that the runner can run synchronized. With 2 artificial legs, the length and rebound speed can be optimised for the runner without the constraint of having to match a human leg.

The abstract says &quot;force&quot; but it is not clear whether this is a peak force, or a measure of the total power applied during ground contact. IOW, as YouRang indicates, if a lesser &quot;force&quot; is exerted for a longer time, due to greater artificial leg springiness, the total power applied may be higher. The actual paper presumably would clear up this ambiguity.

The abstract also says, &quot;Some elite unilateral trans-tibial amputee sprinters appear to have learned or trained to compensate for AL force impairment by swinging both legs rapidly. &quot; Bilateral amputees, ie with both legs replaced, may be able to swing their legs even more rapidly since the legs are much lighter. Lance Armstrong was noted for his high cadence compared with other elite cyclists. A higher cadence uses more energy, but can apply more power for a given maximum muscle strength.

tOM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Power may be reduced by 9%, but the weight that must be propelled is also reduced because artificial springy carbon fibre limbs are much lighter.</p>
<p>The study compared legs of single amputees. Having a fixed human leg also constrains the artificial limb in length and in rebound speed so that the runner can run synchronized. With 2 artificial legs, the length and rebound speed can be optimised for the runner without the constraint of having to match a human leg.</p>
<p>The abstract says &#8220;force&#8221; but it is not clear whether this is a peak force, or a measure of the total power applied during ground contact. IOW, as YouRang indicates, if a lesser &#8220;force&#8221; is exerted for a longer time, due to greater artificial leg springiness, the total power applied may be higher. The actual paper presumably would clear up this ambiguity.</p>
<p>The abstract also says, &#8220;Some elite unilateral trans-tibial amputee sprinters appear to have learned or trained to compensate for AL force impairment by swinging both legs rapidly. &#8221; Bilateral amputees, ie with both legs replaced, may be able to swing their legs even more rapidly since the legs are much lighter. Lance Armstrong was noted for his high cadence compared with other elite cyclists. A higher cadence uses more energy, but can apply more power for a given maximum muscle strength.</p>
<p>tOM</p>
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		<title>By: TheCritic</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/11/09/prosthetic-legs-arent-better-than-the-real-thing-yet/#comment-13354</link>
		<dc:creator>TheCritic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Bigjohn was probably referring to the site called &quot;God Hates Amputees&quot; which talks about all the miracles evangelists do on like people in wheelchairs, but no amputees are healed.

2. Surely, yourang, surely your well-proposed theory has not been considered by scientists, none of whom would be well-versed in physics due to the fact that they&#039;re scientists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Bigjohn was probably referring to the site called &#8220;God Hates Amputees&#8221; which talks about all the miracles evangelists do on like people in wheelchairs, but no amputees are healed.</p>
<p>2. Surely, yourang, surely your well-proposed theory has not been considered by scientists, none of whom would be well-versed in physics due to the fact that they&#8217;re scientists.</p>
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		<title>By: YouRang</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/11/09/prosthetic-legs-arent-better-than-the-real-thing-yet/#comment-13353</link>
		<dc:creator>YouRang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely range of motion also contributes to top speed.  So the curved shape of the prosthetic limbs is what is troubling.  The force might  be adversely affected, but if the prosthesis can maintain contact longer, even though the maximal force generated is less, the stored energy might offset the effect and the net effect might be greater.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely range of motion also contributes to top speed.  So the curved shape of the prosthetic limbs is what is troubling.  The force might  be adversely affected, but if the prosthesis can maintain contact longer, even though the maximal force generated is less, the stored energy might offset the effect and the net effect might be greater.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/11/09/prosthetic-legs-arent-better-than-the-real-thing-yet/#comment-13352</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats weird, you must be mistaken this planet with another one; we call them &quot;doctors&quot; here, and a bonus the&#039;re male and female too, twice the healing power; which will probably lead to limb regeneration/transplant, medical discovery in the future. Yaaaay!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats weird, you must be mistaken this planet with another one; we call them &#8220;doctors&#8221; here, and a bonus the&#8217;re male and female too, twice the healing power; which will probably lead to limb regeneration/transplant, medical discovery in the future. Yaaaay!</p>
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		<title>By: Rillam</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/11/09/prosthetic-legs-arent-better-than-the-real-thing-yet/#comment-13351</link>
		<dc:creator>Rillam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What?</p>
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		<title>By: bigjohn756</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/11/09/prosthetic-legs-arent-better-than-the-real-thing-yet/#comment-13350</link>
		<dc:creator>bigjohn756</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be so much better if God would just heal these amputees, just like he heals all the other sick people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be so much better if God would just heal these amputees, just like he heals all the other sick people.</p>
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