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	<title>Comments on: Ravenous, Leaping Asian Carp Poised to Invade Great Lakes</title>
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		<title>By: Granny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Granny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 16:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are they edible, if so, bring them on, i do not think the MNR can control me catching them in a net when they leap out of the water or would they be considered road kill if they land in my boat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are they edible, if so, bring them on, i do not think the MNR can control me catching them in a net when they leap out of the water or would they be considered road kill if they land in my boat.</p>
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		<title>By: Zack Gilb</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/11/23/ravenous-leaping-asian-carp-poised-to-invade-great-lakes/#comment-13827</link>
		<dc:creator>Zack Gilb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 02:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The open water fishing is ok in this part but does anyone have some suggestions on any decent rivers to find some good fishing,especially looking to find good numbers of flying carp,a few other guys have caught some great catches lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The open water fishing is ok in this part but does anyone have some suggestions on any decent rivers to find some good fishing,especially looking to find good numbers of flying carp,a few other guys have caught some great catches lately.</p>
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		<title>By: StopKilling4Profit</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/11/23/ravenous-leaping-asian-carp-poised-to-invade-great-lakes/#comment-13826</link>
		<dc:creator>StopKilling4Profit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 06:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading the article, one must ask themself if the author is biased? Using language such as &quot;invasive&quot; and &quot;ravenous&quot;,etc. is done with the intention to make the reader feel that something terrible is happening. The only thing what is happening is evolution. There are no invaders in animal kingdom. The &quot;unwanted&quot; fish species have been introduced into lakes and rivers by man at one time when profit-oriented &quot;tinkering&quot; with the environment became a fashion. This is not about protectionism, but capitalism. As soon as the &quot;good life&quot; of years of angling in paradise is at stake, governments and commercial industry cry wolf and demand the problems to be dealt with.
The environmental groups who are working with agencies and the army, support only mechanical means to keep the carp away. There are a number of news articles on this particular story and it seems that the media only cares to write about issues of some sentational value. Most authors couldn&#039;t care less to dig deeper in their research in an effort to understand the criteria. Fact is that &quot;you can&#039;t push a river - you have to go with the flow...&quot; Learn more about the hazards of chemical lake restorations: http://sites.google.com/site/stopkilling4profit/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading the article, one must ask themself if the author is biased? Using language such as &#8220;invasive&#8221; and &#8220;ravenous&#8221;,etc. is done with the intention to make the reader feel that something terrible is happening. The only thing what is happening is evolution. There are no invaders in animal kingdom. The &#8220;unwanted&#8221; fish species have been introduced into lakes and rivers by man at one time when profit-oriented &#8220;tinkering&#8221; with the environment became a fashion. This is not about protectionism, but capitalism. As soon as the &#8220;good life&#8221; of years of angling in paradise is at stake, governments and commercial industry cry wolf and demand the problems to be dealt with.<br />
The environmental groups who are working with agencies and the army, support only mechanical means to keep the carp away. There are a number of news articles on this particular story and it seems that the media only cares to write about issues of some sentational value. Most authors couldn&#8217;t care less to dig deeper in their research in an effort to understand the criteria. Fact is that &#8220;you can&#8217;t push a river &#8211; you have to go with the flow&#8230;&#8221; Learn more about the hazards of chemical lake restorations: <a href="http://sites.google.com/site/stopkilling4profit/" rel="nofollow">http://sites.google.com/site/stopkilling4profit/</a></p>
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		<title>By: JIM</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/11/23/ravenous-leaping-asian-carp-poised-to-invade-great-lakes/#comment-13825</link>
		<dc:creator>JIM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s ironic how the government screws up everything that it touches, but we still want them to jump in and save us from ourselves. God save us from the Asian Carp and Healthcare, because Uncle Sam cannot, and willnot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s ironic how the government screws up everything that it touches, but we still want them to jump in and save us from ourselves. God save us from the Asian Carp and Healthcare, because Uncle Sam cannot, and willnot.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/11/23/ravenous-leaping-asian-carp-poised-to-invade-great-lakes/#comment-13824</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The carp are just another example of attempting to cure a problem by the introduction of species without the understanding of the interactions with the other species and natural predators in their native biosphere that kept them controlled.  There are many instances of this simplistic though logical action based on ignorance, e.g., the mongoose cure to the Hawaiian rat problem: http://www.perlgurl.org/archives/2006/05/the_mongoose_a_maui_menace_1.html

And there are many other instances:
http://www.invasivespeciesinfo.gov/

It&#039;s just unfortunate that it takes problems to wake us to the cause and it&#039;s so often too late for an easy cure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The carp are just another example of attempting to cure a problem by the introduction of species without the understanding of the interactions with the other species and natural predators in their native biosphere that kept them controlled.  There are many instances of this simplistic though logical action based on ignorance, e.g., the mongoose cure to the Hawaiian rat problem: <a href="http://www.perlgurl.org/archives/2006/05/the_mongoose_a_maui_menace_1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.perlgurl.org/archives/2006/05/the_mongoose_a_maui_menace_1.html</a></p>
<p>And there are many other instances:<br />
<a href="http://www.invasivespeciesinfo.gov/" rel="nofollow">http://www.invasivespeciesinfo.gov/</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s just unfortunate that it takes problems to wake us to the cause and it&#8217;s so often too late for an easy cure.</p>
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		<title>By: Cubs in 2012</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cubs in 2012</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many fish have died down stream since we redirected the Chicago River? Our sewage would have killed Lake Michigan by now, instead of contributing to the death of the Gulf of Mexico. Its ironic that the only fish capable of thriving in Chicago Rivers soup, swam thru it, on the way to destroy the Lake we are saving from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many fish have died down stream since we redirected the Chicago River? Our sewage would have killed Lake Michigan by now, instead of contributing to the death of the Gulf of Mexico. Its ironic that the only fish capable of thriving in Chicago Rivers soup, swam thru it, on the way to destroy the Lake we are saving from it.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Garrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren Garrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simply release wave after wave of Chinese needle snakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simply release wave after wave of Chinese needle snakes.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Too</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you seen footage of prime carp habitat?  They don&#039;t &quot;occasionally jump.&quot;

It&#039;s actually dangerous to drive a boat through those waterways.  The carp jump at noise and disturbance and they can easily jump right over a small watercraft.  I&#039;ve seen video of places where the carp are jumping so actively it&#039;s like a thin flock of birds.  The people in the boats have to protect their heads and bodies because they will get whacked by a good size fish and they approach from all sides and angles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you seen footage of prime carp habitat?  They don&#8217;t &#8220;occasionally jump.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s actually dangerous to drive a boat through those waterways.  The carp jump at noise and disturbance and they can easily jump right over a small watercraft.  I&#8217;ve seen video of places where the carp are jumping so actively it&#8217;s like a thin flock of birds.  The people in the boats have to protect their heads and bodies because they will get whacked by a good size fish and they approach from all sides and angles.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Or chop up the southern fish farmers that came up with this scheme and feed them to the ravenous carp.&quot;

That get&#039;s my vote!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Or chop up the southern fish farmers that came up with this scheme and feed them to the ravenous carp.&#8221;</p>
<p>That get&#8217;s my vote!</p>
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		<title>By: blue gill</title>
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		<dc:creator>blue gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about cranking up the power on that electric barrier so the fish rather than being uncomfortable are dead. Or chop up the southern fish farmers that came up with this scheme and feed them to the ravenous carp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about cranking up the power on that electric barrier so the fish rather than being uncomfortable are dead. Or chop up the southern fish farmers that came up with this scheme and feed them to the ravenous carp.</p>
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