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	<title>Comments on: Near the Edge of the Solar System, Voyager 2 Finds Magnetic Fluff</title>
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		<title>By: How to sleep faster</title>
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		<dc:creator>How to sleep faster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 22:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw in the newspaper that NASA stopped most of their activities.

Can anyone confirm me that?

I think it&#039;s probably not true.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw in the newspaper that NASA stopped most of their activities.</p>
<p>Can anyone confirm me that?</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s probably not true.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Hom Sapiens Sapien-RoundupReady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hom Sapiens Sapien-RoundupReady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geek

I think your political analysis of the situation is pretty shallow and your proposed solution right out. The NWO is the reason we don&#039;t have more research; the democratic republic of the USA got us Voyager, Pioneer and many other landmark technological advances, the idiocy of alarmist politics produced the perception of scarcity to coerce obedience and suppress free thought: taxing innovation to death. Think, man!

&quot;America’s abundance was created not by public sacrifices to ‘the common good,’ but by the productive genius of free men who pursued their own personal interests and the making of their own private fortunes. They did not starve the people to pay for America’s industrialization. They gave the people better jobs, higher wages and cheaper goods with every new machine they invented, with every scientific discovery or technological advance—and thus the whole country was moving forward and profiting, not suffering, every step of the way.

The goal of the ”liberals’—as it emerges from the record of the past decades—was to smuggle this country into welfare statism by means of single, concrete, specific measures, enlarging the power of the government a step at a time, never permitting these steps to be summed up into principles, never permitting their direction to be identified or the basic issue to be named. Thus, statism was to come, not by vote or by violence, but by slow rot—by a long process of evasion and epistemological corruption, leading to a fait accompli. The goal of the ‘conservative’ was only to retard that process.” – Ayn Rand

IMO your vision of a rigidly ordered socialist system is idealistic fantasy. The best case in point is the despotic tyranny of Catholicism over Europe for the period euphemistically referred to as the Dark Ages, and the 500 year struggle to extricate scientific inquiry from this ignorant status quo.

I vote with the portion of my earned income that the despots don&#039;t appropriate for their corrupt programs and &#039;charities&#039; that win them free learjet rides. You propose a program of slavcery, demanding I serve them in the hope that they will more efficiently continue the scientific advance? I don&#039;t think so; they only fund weaponizing solutions. Why? To kill us uppity thinking people who might disrupt their monopoly game.

So why would any rocket scientist work to advance the capabilities of their oppressors?

Otherwise the geometry &amp; nature of of the Local Cloud is fascinating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geek</p>
<p>I think your political analysis of the situation is pretty shallow and your proposed solution right out. The NWO is the reason we don&#8217;t have more research; the democratic republic of the USA got us Voyager, Pioneer and many other landmark technological advances, the idiocy of alarmist politics produced the perception of scarcity to coerce obedience and suppress free thought: taxing innovation to death. Think, man!</p>
<p>&#8220;America’s abundance was created not by public sacrifices to ‘the common good,’ but by the productive genius of free men who pursued their own personal interests and the making of their own private fortunes. They did not starve the people to pay for America’s industrialization. They gave the people better jobs, higher wages and cheaper goods with every new machine they invented, with every scientific discovery or technological advance—and thus the whole country was moving forward and profiting, not suffering, every step of the way.</p>
<p>The goal of the ”liberals’—as it emerges from the record of the past decades—was to smuggle this country into welfare statism by means of single, concrete, specific measures, enlarging the power of the government a step at a time, never permitting these steps to be summed up into principles, never permitting their direction to be identified or the basic issue to be named. Thus, statism was to come, not by vote or by violence, but by slow rot—by a long process of evasion and epistemological corruption, leading to a fait accompli. The goal of the ‘conservative’ was only to retard that process.” – Ayn Rand</p>
<p>IMO your vision of a rigidly ordered socialist system is idealistic fantasy. The best case in point is the despotic tyranny of Catholicism over Europe for the period euphemistically referred to as the Dark Ages, and the 500 year struggle to extricate scientific inquiry from this ignorant status quo.</p>
<p>I vote with the portion of my earned income that the despots don&#8217;t appropriate for their corrupt programs and &#8216;charities&#8217; that win them free learjet rides. You propose a program of slavcery, demanding I serve them in the hope that they will more efficiently continue the scientific advance? I don&#8217;t think so; they only fund weaponizing solutions. Why? To kill us uppity thinking people who might disrupt their monopoly game.</p>
<p>So why would any rocket scientist work to advance the capabilities of their oppressors?</p>
<p>Otherwise the geometry &amp; nature of of the Local Cloud is fascinating.</p>
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		<title>By: Blessed Geek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blessed Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 09:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick Said:December 29th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
&gt;Why haven’t we been launching more, faster, longer-lasting voyager types, to see

Because we have global warming to remediate, anti-global-warming kooks to ward off, alqaida to defeat, treacherous double-agents to uncover, two and half wars to fight, hurricanes/earthquakes/tsunamis to rescue, an economy to repair, religions to propagate, new oil and gas wells to discover, cyber warfare to conduct, world hunger to feed, a public to educate why it&#039;s cheaper to deorbit the space station than to maintain it, etc.

It&#039;s lucky that we even had a Voyager.

We need a new world order, where economic health is accumulated not by manufacturing unnecessary things and then encouraging consumers to buy those unnecessaries - but an economy where wealth is accumulated by how much one has contributed to technologies to sustain the future of the human race and our expansion into the Universe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick Said:December 29th, 2009 at 11:04 pm<br />
&gt;Why haven’t we been launching more, faster, longer-lasting voyager types, to see</p>
<p>Because we have global warming to remediate, anti-global-warming kooks to ward off, alqaida to defeat, treacherous double-agents to uncover, two and half wars to fight, hurricanes/earthquakes/tsunamis to rescue, an economy to repair, religions to propagate, new oil and gas wells to discover, cyber warfare to conduct, world hunger to feed, a public to educate why it&#8217;s cheaper to deorbit the space station than to maintain it, etc.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s lucky that we even had a Voyager.</p>
<p>We need a new world order, where economic health is accumulated not by manufacturing unnecessary things and then encouraging consumers to buy those unnecessaries &#8211; but an economy where wealth is accumulated by how much one has contributed to technologies to sustain the future of the human race and our expansion into the Universe.</p>
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		<title>By: Peten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 17:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a great wiki piece on the &#039;local fluff&#039;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Bubble

&amp; another on the greater region.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Interstellar_Cloud

I think you will find this much more nutritious than apocalypse pop fiction. I wouldn&#039;t expect much getting your science from articles that reference TV as a source... imo disregard the hocus pocus and keep an open mind where facts are sparse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a great wiki piece on the &#8216;local fluff&#8217;<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Bubble" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Bubble</a></p>
<p>&amp; another on the greater region.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Interstellar_Cloud" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Interstellar_Cloud</a></p>
<p>I think you will find this much more nutritious than apocalypse pop fiction. I wouldn&#8217;t expect much getting your science from articles that reference TV as a source&#8230; imo disregard the hocus pocus and keep an open mind where facts are sparse.</p>
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		<title>By: HistoryTrekker</title>
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		<dc:creator>HistoryTrekker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 03:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the difference between this &quot;fluff&quot; and the cosmic dust in interstellar space that&#039;s packing deadly radiation?  I&#039;ve read that the prospect of interstellar radiation reaching the Earth, thanks to a reduction of Solar Wind, could have extremely harmful effects.  The subject is discussed in a long piece called &quot;Apocalypse 2012?&quot;, posted at thecityedition.com, on the third page.  Can anyone explain this discrepancy?  Perhaps there&#039;s innocuous cosmic dust out there as well as the other...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the difference between this &#8220;fluff&#8221; and the cosmic dust in interstellar space that&#8217;s packing deadly radiation?  I&#8217;ve read that the prospect of interstellar radiation reaching the Earth, thanks to a reduction of Solar Wind, could have extremely harmful effects.  The subject is discussed in a long piece called &#8220;Apocalypse 2012?&#8221;, posted at thecityedition.com, on the third page.  Can anyone explain this discrepancy?  Perhaps there&#8217;s innocuous cosmic dust out there as well as the other&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: alien</title>
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		<dc:creator>alien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@hunter: Due to the demonstrated quality of work I anticipate they will select an appropriate power source for the intended use, such as a lithium battery that will last 30 years and isn&#039;t stamped &quot;CE&quot;.

However if the engineers decided that I need a nuclear power source, I would trust them to do it right far more than the crap the marketing demons are pimping.

Going 14 billion km on one battery is just so much more impressive than paying Tiger Woods to promote your junk (because, its junk!).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@hunter: Due to the demonstrated quality of work I anticipate they will select an appropriate power source for the intended use, such as a lithium battery that will last 30 years and isn&#8217;t stamped &#8220;CE&#8221;.</p>
<p>However if the engineers decided that I need a nuclear power source, I would trust them to do it right far more than the crap the marketing demons are pimping.</p>
<p>Going 14 billion km on one battery is just so much more impressive than paying Tiger Woods to promote your junk (because, its junk!).</p>
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		<title>By: Hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 03:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@alien. I wish they could, but it would require the power source these probes used...nuclear power. Its funny to contemplate such a device. Instead of a lithium ion battery, you would have a glowing red hot ball of uranium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@alien. I wish they could, but it would require the power source these probes used&#8230;nuclear power. Its funny to contemplate such a device. Instead of a lithium ion battery, you would have a glowing red hot ball of uranium.</p>
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		<title>By: alien</title>
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		<dc:creator>alien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only NASA made laptops like these die hard probes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only NASA made laptops like these die hard probes.</p>
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		<title>By: Student</title>
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		<dc:creator>Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick, because there&#039;s no much out there, and it takes a long time to get there.
Blame part media, culture,
Blame part space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick, because there&#8217;s no much out there, and it takes a long time to get there.<br />
Blame part media, culture,<br />
Blame part space.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Horizons</description>
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