So much fresh water surely it’s worth something… or will be.

We hardly understand how the earth’s climate functions. We do know that it warms and cools in cycles (hot, cold, hot cold, etc.), yet there were oftentimes periods, The Little Ice Age for example, that break from that trend for a short (100-200 years) time. Rather large “events” are rather independent from climate change and often cause it (giant volcanic explosion, very large icebergs, asteroid collisions, etc.) . Right now, there is no conclusive evidence that human production of CO2 and other greenhouse gases are contributing to Global Warming, or this is now the start of a new cycle, or whether this is just a short break from the trend. All we know for certain, is that if we do not stop deforestation, if we do not slow down or even reverse population increases, or if we do not stop polluting, we will pay the price. Whether it will be 50, 100, or even 200 years from now, humanity will pay for its excesses.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/co2-lags-temperature.htm.

It doesn’t help that the data of such periods of cooling were actively manipulated by those bodies claiming AGW either.

But yes, very off-topic here all of a sudden. I’m really sick of this near religious situation of climate ‘deniers’ and ‘warmers’ or whatever people are calling each other these days; it’s on par with WWII governments talking down Jewish Science and is extremely unhelpful. Anyone with an extreme viewpoint has to take a step back from their own tunnel vision and look at this logically with as many facts as they can gather.

Just because some people jumping on the climate change bandwagon have an agenda doesn’t discredit a theory that has been proven by so many angles that the debate that rages now focuses on peripheral points like glacial retreat. It’s idiocy from every side of this argument that is causing trouble and discrediting the people involved behind pushing their ideas. It’s an extreme issue with potentially extreme consequences, so of course people are going to be passionate about it, but being passionate doesn’t mean you can steadfastly believe in something without knowing what’s behind all sides.

Me, I think it’s ludicrous that anyone could turn away from so much evidence and say ‘no, I don’t agree with these thousands of credible sources, I’d much rather believe the opinion of an English Duke.’

Cory, you don’t get to define, “things I like that are paid for through taxes” as not socialist, and then “thing I don’t like that are paid for by taxes” as socialist. That’s not how it works.