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		<title>By: rentenvosorge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2010/03/22/health-care-reform-passed-so-what-does-it-mean/#comment-17373</link>
		<dc:creator>rentenvosorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 13:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ich war   zu finden  dieser  internet-site.I  gebraucht   in Ihre  Zeit für diese wunderbare   Sprachreisen! I definitiv   Spaß mit  jedes kleine bisschen  und  ich  Zum einen Blick at neue Slideshows Sie  weblog schreiben.</description>
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		<title>By: Kathy C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 07:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, in my rely, I meant doctors &amp; specialists!
Also, we are not here on Earth just for ourselves. We need to have compassion for others. I&#039;m not saying for people who truly can work, but for those who truly need a helping hand and are in a desperate situation through no fault of their own. I&#039;ve never married and never had kids. I knew from an early age that I had too many health issues and I would be better off by myself. I tried to be as responsible as I could. I hope Congress can come up with a solution that is good for everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, in my rely, I meant doctors &amp; specialists!<br />
Also, we are not here on Earth just for ourselves. We need to have compassion for others. I&#8217;m not saying for people who truly can work, but for those who truly need a helping hand and are in a desperate situation through no fault of their own. I&#8217;ve never married and never had kids. I knew from an early age that I had too many health issues and I would be better off by myself. I tried to be as responsible as I could. I hope Congress can come up with a solution that is good for everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 07:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am disabled and unable to work. I have numerous health problems, emotional &amp; physical. The only money I have is what I receive from Social Security. I am actually on my Father&#039;s work record because I qualify to be. I am receiving Social Security checks that he would have received had he lived to enjoy his retirement. He worked hard all his life. I also have a Medicare HMO. I have co-pays I must pay in order to see my doctor and specials, but because I don&#039;t have the money for the co-pays, I haven&#039;t been able to get the medical care I need. This is wrong. Also, a person can have Lupus &amp; Chron&#039;s whether they are slender or heavy. They can have arthritis, cancer, or a number of other conditions regardless of weight. It&#039;s not always because one is heavy or smokes, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am disabled and unable to work. I have numerous health problems, emotional &amp; physical. The only money I have is what I receive from Social Security. I am actually on my Father&#8217;s work record because I qualify to be. I am receiving Social Security checks that he would have received had he lived to enjoy his retirement. He worked hard all his life. I also have a Medicare HMO. I have co-pays I must pay in order to see my doctor and specials, but because I don&#8217;t have the money for the co-pays, I haven&#8217;t been able to get the medical care I need. This is wrong. Also, a person can have Lupus &amp; Chron&#8217;s whether they are slender or heavy. They can have arthritis, cancer, or a number of other conditions regardless of weight. It&#8217;s not always because one is heavy or smokes, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 00:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it would be great, but it is not. I have a pre-existing condition and have not been able to get insurance or even work. I made $0 last year, but have been living on some money my mother left me, so am not able to get the state medical. I checked into the &quot;pool&quot; and it was $1020 a month to get insurance. It takes 3 months before you get it, then it is $500 deductible, $7,500 a year limit and $75,000 lifetime limit. Not so good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it would be great, but it is not. I have a pre-existing condition and have not been able to get insurance or even work. I made $0 last year, but have been living on some money my mother left me, so am not able to get the state medical. I checked into the &#8220;pool&#8221; and it was $1020 a month to get insurance. It takes 3 months before you get it, then it is $500 deductible, $7,500 a year limit and $75,000 lifetime limit. Not so good.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 20:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I think it is a good idea. Some of the people here make a separation of the haves and the have nots to be directly related to their performance in life or lack there of. I can tell you that I am college educated but due to the recension unable to find full work. I am currently uninsured and hope every day that there will not be a major accident that will put me into huge medical debt before I can even make some money. right now I would love the health insurance and strongly support the plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I think it is a good idea. Some of the people here make a separation of the haves and the have nots to be directly related to their performance in life or lack there of. I can tell you that I am college educated but due to the recension unable to find full work. I am currently uninsured and hope every day that there will not be a major accident that will put me into huge medical debt before I can even make some money. right now I would love the health insurance and strongly support the plan.</p>
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		<title>By: Inversion table</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inversion table</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 20:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats to Obama. So much non support for this reform and yet it is the most vital thing needed for americans.  How long it will take to make an impact in the lifestyles of americans who knows? Well done</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats to Obama. So much non support for this reform and yet it is the most vital thing needed for americans.  How long it will take to make an impact in the lifestyles of americans who knows? Well done</p>
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		<title>By: MSmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>MSmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mortality Amenable to Health Care, 1997-98 and 2002-03
For selected countries, ranked by country, lowest to highest mortality

http://www.allcountries.org/ranks/preventable_deaths_country_ranks_1997-1998_2002-2003_2008.html

NOTES:

This study compared trends in deaths considered amenable to health care before age seventy-five between 1997–98 and 2002–03 in the United States and in eighteen other industrialized countries.

Such deaths account, on average, for 23 percent of total mortality under age seventy-five among males and 32 percent among females.

The decline in amenable mortality in all countries averaged 16 percent over this period. The United States was an outlier, with a decline of only 4 percent. If the United States could reduce amenable mortality to the average rate achieved in the three top-performing countries, there would have been 101,000 fewer deaths per year by the end of the study period.

The authors also note that &quot;it is difficult to disregard the observation that the slow decline in U.S. amenable mortality has coincided with an increase in the uninsured population, an issue that is now receiving renewed attention in several states and among presidential candidates from both parties.

&quot;It is startling to see the U.S. falling even farther behind on this crucial indicator of health system performance,&quot; said Commonwealth Fund Senior Vice President Cathy Schoen. &quot;By focusing on deaths amenable to health care, Nolte and McKee strip out factors such as population and lifestyle differences that are often cited in response to international comparisons showing the U.S. lagging in health outcomes. The fact that other countries are reducing these preventable deaths more rapidly, yet spending far less, indicates that policy, goals, and efforts to improve health systems make a difference&quot;.

In 1997–98 the U.S. ranked 15th out of 19 countries on the &quot;mortality amenable to health care&quot; measure. However, by 2002–03 the U.S. fell to last place, with 109 deaths amenable to health care for every 100,000 people. In contrast, mortality rates per 100,000 people in the leading countries were: France (64), Japan (71), and Australia (71). The other countries included in the study were Austria, Canada, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Sweden and the United Kingdom.

Study authors state that the measure of deaths amenable to health care is a valuable indicator of health system performance because it is sensitive to improved care, including public health initiatives. It considers a range of conditions from which it is reasonable to expect death to be averted even after the condition develops. This includes causes such as appendicitis and hypertension, where the medical nature of the intervention is apparent; it also includes illnesses that can be detected early with effective screenings such as cervical or colon cancer, and tuberculosis which, while acquisition is largely driven by socio-economic conditions, is not fatal when treated in a timely manner.

&quot;Cross-national studies conducted by The Commonwealth Fund indicate that our failure to cover all Americans results in financial barriers that are much more likely to prevent many U.S. adults from getting the care they need, compared with adults in other countries,&quot; said Commonwealth Fund President Karen Davis. &quot;While no one country provides a perfect model of care, there are many lessons to be learned from the strategies at work abroad.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mortality Amenable to Health Care, 1997-98 and 2002-03<br />
For selected countries, ranked by country, lowest to highest mortality</p>
<p><a href="http://www.allcountries.org/ranks/preventable_deaths_country_ranks_1997-1998_2002-2003_2008.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.allcountries.org/ranks/preventable_deaths_country_ranks_1997-1998_2002-2003_2008.html</a></p>
<p>NOTES:</p>
<p>This study compared trends in deaths considered amenable to health care before age seventy-five between 1997–98 and 2002–03 in the United States and in eighteen other industrialized countries.</p>
<p>Such deaths account, on average, for 23 percent of total mortality under age seventy-five among males and 32 percent among females.</p>
<p>The decline in amenable mortality in all countries averaged 16 percent over this period. The United States was an outlier, with a decline of only 4 percent. If the United States could reduce amenable mortality to the average rate achieved in the three top-performing countries, there would have been 101,000 fewer deaths per year by the end of the study period.</p>
<p>The authors also note that &#8220;it is difficult to disregard the observation that the slow decline in U.S. amenable mortality has coincided with an increase in the uninsured population, an issue that is now receiving renewed attention in several states and among presidential candidates from both parties.</p>
<p>&#8220;It is startling to see the U.S. falling even farther behind on this crucial indicator of health system performance,&#8221; said Commonwealth Fund Senior Vice President Cathy Schoen. &#8220;By focusing on deaths amenable to health care, Nolte and McKee strip out factors such as population and lifestyle differences that are often cited in response to international comparisons showing the U.S. lagging in health outcomes. The fact that other countries are reducing these preventable deaths more rapidly, yet spending far less, indicates that policy, goals, and efforts to improve health systems make a difference&#8221;.</p>
<p>In 1997–98 the U.S. ranked 15th out of 19 countries on the &#8220;mortality amenable to health care&#8221; measure. However, by 2002–03 the U.S. fell to last place, with 109 deaths amenable to health care for every 100,000 people. In contrast, mortality rates per 100,000 people in the leading countries were: France (64), Japan (71), and Australia (71). The other countries included in the study were Austria, Canada, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Sweden and the United Kingdom.</p>
<p>Study authors state that the measure of deaths amenable to health care is a valuable indicator of health system performance because it is sensitive to improved care, including public health initiatives. It considers a range of conditions from which it is reasonable to expect death to be averted even after the condition develops. This includes causes such as appendicitis and hypertension, where the medical nature of the intervention is apparent; it also includes illnesses that can be detected early with effective screenings such as cervical or colon cancer, and tuberculosis which, while acquisition is largely driven by socio-economic conditions, is not fatal when treated in a timely manner.</p>
<p>&#8220;Cross-national studies conducted by The Commonwealth Fund indicate that our failure to cover all Americans results in financial barriers that are much more likely to prevent many U.S. adults from getting the care they need, compared with adults in other countries,&#8221; said Commonwealth Fund President Karen Davis. &#8220;While no one country provides a perfect model of care, there are many lessons to be learned from the strategies at work abroad.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie Hawley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie Hawley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does the insurance company say because my son turn 25 September 25th it had to be dropped because we renewed our Insurance in March 2010 and would have to wait until next year to add him back on when he has been on my insurance all these years and never dropped until now.

Debbie Hawle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does the insurance company say because my son turn 25 September 25th it had to be dropped because we renewed our Insurance in March 2010 and would have to wait until next year to add him back on when he has been on my insurance all these years and never dropped until now.</p>
<p>Debbie Hawle</p>
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		<title>By: Nat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 21:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just my story.
So why not just make healthcare like it is in many other countries, Free!
I&#039;m a US citizen who currently lives abroad and I have come to relize the US healthcare is BS. When I lived in the US, I thought I had it all. It was just my husband and I,  both working  and enjoying life. My husband earned about 28,000  a year and I earned 29,000. ( I know its not much but we were happy)
Just before the recession began I lost my job (i was the only one  with  health insurance) AND found out I was pregnant. In the comeing months as my belly grew I couldnt get any company to hire me. Time was passing quick and I found myself not being able to go to my prenatle Dr visits because I had no insurance and it was too much for us to pay out of pocket. My husband earned enough to pay our home, bills ect... we worried how we would manage once the baby arrived, knowning that it involved more money; for childcare if I ever found another job. I tried asking for these gov. programs  help but according to them, my husband earned enough. I was adviced by someone once that if I lied and said i was no longer with my husband and was about to be a single mother, i could get the help from the gov., but i refused to do that. It was unbelievable to my husband (who is foreign) that something as natural as having a baby was going to cost so much (apperantly about 10,000 with no compliactions).  One night, we made a decision. we sold our home and all our belongings and move to his home country, the UK. It was the best thing we ever did. I had my 2 children here and it didnt cost us a penny. I even had some major complications that kept me in the hospital for over 5 weeks. How on earth I would have ever been able to pay that kind of bill in the US is beyond me. I was just an all American girl trying to live the dream but because I lost my job and decided to have a family, all that just disapeared into thin air and i had to leave my country behind , just so I wouldnt get stuck in healthcare debt. Looking back,  i  just think its so crazy how the US can be so behind on its healthcare system. The UK has its hiccupps but I thank god everyday that if my child get sick in any way shape or form I can just go to the hospital and I have the peace of mind, no bills will be coming my way.
So its not just about the rich getting taxed for the healthcare reform, nor about poor people who choose to be where they are and its their problem thay cant afford it. Its about people like me who tried as much as we could and played by the rules and still it wasnt enough. I do miss my country very much and it makes me sad to know that going back means debt. because of healthcare. Something desperatly need to be done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just my story.<br />
So why not just make healthcare like it is in many other countries, Free!<br />
I&#8217;m a US citizen who currently lives abroad and I have come to relize the US healthcare is BS. When I lived in the US, I thought I had it all. It was just my husband and I,  both working  and enjoying life. My husband earned about 28,000  a year and I earned 29,000. ( I know its not much but we were happy)<br />
Just before the recession began I lost my job (i was the only one  with  health insurance) AND found out I was pregnant. In the comeing months as my belly grew I couldnt get any company to hire me. Time was passing quick and I found myself not being able to go to my prenatle Dr visits because I had no insurance and it was too much for us to pay out of pocket. My husband earned enough to pay our home, bills ect&#8230; we worried how we would manage once the baby arrived, knowning that it involved more money; for childcare if I ever found another job. I tried asking for these gov. programs  help but according to them, my husband earned enough. I was adviced by someone once that if I lied and said i was no longer with my husband and was about to be a single mother, i could get the help from the gov., but i refused to do that. It was unbelievable to my husband (who is foreign) that something as natural as having a baby was going to cost so much (apperantly about 10,000 with no compliactions).  One night, we made a decision. we sold our home and all our belongings and move to his home country, the UK. It was the best thing we ever did. I had my 2 children here and it didnt cost us a penny. I even had some major complications that kept me in the hospital for over 5 weeks. How on earth I would have ever been able to pay that kind of bill in the US is beyond me. I was just an all American girl trying to live the dream but because I lost my job and decided to have a family, all that just disapeared into thin air and i had to leave my country behind , just so I wouldnt get stuck in healthcare debt. Looking back,  i  just think its so crazy how the US can be so behind on its healthcare system. The UK has its hiccupps but I thank god everyday that if my child get sick in any way shape or form I can just go to the hospital and I have the peace of mind, no bills will be coming my way.<br />
So its not just about the rich getting taxed for the healthcare reform, nor about poor people who choose to be where they are and its their problem thay cant afford it. Its about people like me who tried as much as we could and played by the rules and still it wasnt enough. I do miss my country very much and it makes me sad to know that going back means debt. because of healthcare. Something desperatly need to be done.</p>
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		<title>By: norris hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>norris hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 23:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve lived in a country where there is universal health care and a country (the US) where health care is a jumbled mess and I can say that I prefer the former.
In fact, health care in the US is so expensive for anyone who doesn&#039;t work for a big company that I go back to the &quot;old country&quot; whenever I need health care.
There doctors make a good salary but being a doctor isn&#039;t a ticket to wealth.
An operation that costs $2500 here only costs $100 there.  So even after airfare and hotel I can save a lot of money by using universal health care.
If employers here would just give their employers a stipend for health care and say &quot;here, go out and purchase your own insurance&quot; people would get the shock of their lives.
The average worker gets 60-70% of his premiums subsidized by his employer.
Why?
You don&#039;t make the employer buy your food or clothing.  Why should employers buy your health insurance?
In the US if you work for the government or a big company you get a welfare grant for health care.  That subsidy gets  passed on to everyone else in the form of higher prices for goods and services.  It leaves US companies unable to compete with the rest of the world .
This reform is a step in the right direction.  But it would be better to divest employers of the responsiblity for paying health care costs and let the individual go out in the market and pay his own insurance bill.
When you get employees paying the average premium of $10,000 a year...you can bet you will hear screams for health care reform</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve lived in a country where there is universal health care and a country (the US) where health care is a jumbled mess and I can say that I prefer the former.<br />
In fact, health care in the US is so expensive for anyone who doesn&#8217;t work for a big company that I go back to the &#8220;old country&#8221; whenever I need health care.<br />
There doctors make a good salary but being a doctor isn&#8217;t a ticket to wealth.<br />
An operation that costs $2500 here only costs $100 there.  So even after airfare and hotel I can save a lot of money by using universal health care.<br />
If employers here would just give their employers a stipend for health care and say &#8220;here, go out and purchase your own insurance&#8221; people would get the shock of their lives.<br />
The average worker gets 60-70% of his premiums subsidized by his employer.<br />
Why?<br />
You don&#8217;t make the employer buy your food or clothing.  Why should employers buy your health insurance?<br />
In the US if you work for the government or a big company you get a welfare grant for health care.  That subsidy gets  passed on to everyone else in the form of higher prices for goods and services.  It leaves US companies unable to compete with the rest of the world .<br />
This reform is a step in the right direction.  But it would be better to divest employers of the responsiblity for paying health care costs and let the individual go out in the market and pay his own insurance bill.<br />
When you get employees paying the average premium of $10,000 a year&#8230;you can bet you will hear screams for health care reform</p>
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