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	<title>Comments on: Obama to Hospitals: Grant Visiting Rights to Gay Couples</title>
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		<title>By: EJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>EJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 05:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darn it, one reason I subscribe to this magazine is for pleasurable reading without the incursion of somebody&#039;s politics.  In the short time I have been a subscriber, I have seen more than one article championing (however worded) the gay cause.  I am an opponent of any gay cause, but I don&#039;t think a scientific magazine is the place to fight it out.  What&#039;s next, Creationism vs Darwinism?  I understand that there are some serious problems cropping up for the theory of evolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darn it, one reason I subscribe to this magazine is for pleasurable reading without the incursion of somebody&#8217;s politics.  In the short time I have been a subscriber, I have seen more than one article championing (however worded) the gay cause.  I am an opponent of any gay cause, but I don&#8217;t think a scientific magazine is the place to fight it out.  What&#8217;s next, Creationism vs Darwinism?  I understand that there are some serious problems cropping up for the theory of evolution.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Too</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 23:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have close friends and sometimes run into minor (so far not major) issues related to this.  We are close as in &#039;like a member of the family&#039;.  I wonder about our mechanisms for dealing with these situations sometimes.  Are they really adequate for what the social relationships are between people?

For instance, we ask people to declare their Personal Directive (DNR versus Resuscitate instructions and so forth).  However we do not ask them to declare who is a trusted insider versus everyone else.  Just getting the contact person/next of kin often isn&#039;t sufficient.

We&#039;re talking about something that&#039;s a little more important than who a person has accepted as a &#039;Friend&#039; on Facebook, you know?  However that&#039;s moving in the direction of what I&#039;m talking about even if it&#039;s a relatively trivial example.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have close friends and sometimes run into minor (so far not major) issues related to this.  We are close as in &#8216;like a member of the family&#8217;.  I wonder about our mechanisms for dealing with these situations sometimes.  Are they really adequate for what the social relationships are between people?</p>
<p>For instance, we ask people to declare their Personal Directive (DNR versus Resuscitate instructions and so forth).  However we do not ask them to declare who is a trusted insider versus everyone else.  Just getting the contact person/next of kin often isn&#8217;t sufficient.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re talking about something that&#8217;s a little more important than who a person has accepted as a &#8216;Friend&#8217; on Facebook, you know?  However that&#8217;s moving in the direction of what I&#8217;m talking about even if it&#8217;s a relatively trivial example.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2010/04/16/obama-to-hospitals-grant-visiting-rights-to-gay-couples/comment-page-1/#comment-160270</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;hiv or aids being spread&quot; by hospital visits?  I seriously hope you are joking and not just woefully un-informed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;hiv or aids being spread&#8221; by hospital visits?  I seriously hope you are joking and not just woefully un-informed.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are the hospitals using the health as a concern as in hiv or aids being spread or is it just about marriage or family member which everyone goes through gay or not? did the white house even ask the hospitals?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are the hospitals using the health as a concern as in hiv or aids being spread or is it just about marriage or family member which everyone goes through gay or not? did the white house even ask the hospitals?</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Keer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Keer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 20:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ted Keer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2010/04/16/obama-to-hospitals-grant-visiting-rights-to-gay-couples/comment-page-1/#comment-159436</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Keer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 20:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How, exactly,  is this a science story?

I cancelled my subscription to Scientific American in the 1980&#039;s when they started pushing &quot;progressive&quot; causes.  I&#039;m not a heterosexual myself.  But I stopped buying the NY Times when Punch Sulzbuger instituted his one pro-gay article per section per day policy.  I don&#039;t need condescending science journalists looking out for what they think is in my interest, thank you.  

Please stick to science reporting.      

If I want politically correct pieties I&#039;ll watch reruns of Boston Legal and Murphy Brown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How, exactly,  is this a science story?</p>
<p>I cancelled my subscription to Scientific American in the 1980&#8242;s when they started pushing &#8220;progressive&#8221; causes.  I&#8217;m not a heterosexual myself.  But I stopped buying the NY Times when Punch Sulzbuger instituted his one pro-gay article per section per day policy.  I don&#8217;t need condescending science journalists looking out for what they think is in my interest, thank you.  </p>
<p>Please stick to science reporting.      </p>
<p>If I want politically correct pieties I&#8217;ll watch reruns of Boston Legal and Murphy Brown.</p>
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		<title>By: scribbler</title>
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		<dc:creator>scribbler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 16:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Science would look at what is actually happening rather than picking this out as a means to champion a cause.

What is actually happening is that hospitals sometimes prohibit all but &quot;immediate family&quot; from visitation. Since homosexual sex partners are not considered &quot;immediate family&quot; in many places, they are banned RIGHT ALONG WITH EVERYONE ELSE WHO IS BANNED.

Having said that, I agree that the best way to handle this is to let the ill CHOOSE whom they wish to see them. The making of this into a homosexual rights campaign is only political...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Science would look at what is actually happening rather than picking this out as a means to champion a cause.</p>
<p>What is actually happening is that hospitals sometimes prohibit all but &#8220;immediate family&#8221; from visitation. Since homosexual sex partners are not considered &#8220;immediate family&#8221; in many places, they are banned RIGHT ALONG WITH EVERYONE ELSE WHO IS BANNED.</p>
<p>Having said that, I agree that the best way to handle this is to let the ill CHOOSE whom they wish to see them. The making of this into a homosexual rights campaign is only political&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel J. Andrews</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2010/04/16/obama-to-hospitals-grant-visiting-rights-to-gay-couples/comment-page-1/#comment-158915</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel J. Andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 03:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan, Scott, Ken--fully agree. I am shocked and saddened to hear this was the case in the U.S. (I&#039;m Canadian). I hope I never run into being barred from a hospital up here, but if someone I loved wanted me to visit them in the hospital then I would visit them regardless of hospital rules. If eventually arrested I&#039;d make a very public (and possibly legal) spectacle to embarrass the officials (that works better in a small town, I suspect, than a big city).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan, Scott, Ken&#8211;fully agree. I am shocked and saddened to hear this was the case in the U.S. (I&#8217;m Canadian). I hope I never run into being barred from a hospital up here, but if someone I loved wanted me to visit them in the hospital then I would visit them regardless of hospital rules. If eventually arrested I&#8217;d make a very public (and possibly legal) spectacle to embarrass the officials (that works better in a small town, I suspect, than a big city).</p>
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		<title>By: Cassandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cassandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 18:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is a science story?&quot;

Sociology is the science of studying society.   Prejudice is a subject that falls under the heading of sociology, as well as psychology.  The habit/policy of preventing GLBTQ people from visiting their spouses in the hospital is a matter of prejudice.

So, yes, this is a science story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is a science story?&#8221;</p>
<p>Sociology is the science of studying society.   Prejudice is a subject that falls under the heading of sociology, as well as psychology.  The habit/policy of preventing GLBTQ people from visiting their spouses in the hospital is a matter of prejudice.</p>
<p>So, yes, this is a science story.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Buatti Small</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Buatti Small</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 18:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a science story?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a science story?</p>
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		<title>By: Lucide</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 08:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The need to be special but normal - as in socially acceptable, has driven people to exclude others to raise their own stature, be it in politics, religion, personal interests, genetic and biological differences. That is why we have the word &#039;race&#039;, as said by Battlestar Galatica Admiral.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The need to be special but normal &#8211; as in socially acceptable, has driven people to exclude others to raise their own stature, be it in politics, religion, personal interests, genetic and biological differences. That is why we have the word &#8216;race&#8217;, as said by Battlestar Galatica Admiral.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Chang</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2010/04/16/obama-to-hospitals-grant-visiting-rights-to-gay-couples/comment-page-1/#comment-158017</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Chang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 05:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should&#039;ve happened at least a decade ago.</description>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2010/04/16/obama-to-hospitals-grant-visiting-rights-to-gay-couples/comment-page-1/#comment-157795</link>
		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 23:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The land of the free just now getting around to this?</description>
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		<title>By: Alan Barnard</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2010/04/16/obama-to-hospitals-grant-visiting-rights-to-gay-couples/comment-page-1/#comment-157639</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Barnard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 18:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone writing from the UK, I am saddened by this, yet another example of, man&#039;s inhumanity to man. How does this compare with prison visiting rights? What are the hospital authorities thinking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone writing from the UK, I am saddened by this, yet another example of, man&#8217;s inhumanity to man. How does this compare with prison visiting rights? What are the hospital authorities thinking?</p>
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