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	<title>Comments on: In a Warmer World, Iceland&#039;s Volcanoes May Get Even Livelier</title>
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		<title>By: Diann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 12:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Earth cools will there be less volcanoes? Just curious because they say the Earth is cooling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Earth cools will there be less volcanoes? Just curious because they say the Earth is cooling.</p>
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		<title>By: Nomad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nomad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 22:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Yellowstone goes, it may very well mean the end of the human race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Yellowstone goes, it may very well mean the end of the human race.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wait til Yellowstone or Mammoth Mountain erupt!

Ice Age, Baby!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wait til Yellowstone or Mammoth Mountain erupt!</p>
<p>Ice Age, Baby!!</p>
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		<title>By: carddan</title>
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		<dc:creator>carddan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RockyRoad, if you add a PhD (piled higher and deeper) to your BS and MS (more of the same), perhaps you can get multi-million dollar grants to manipulate statistics and support post-modern science.  Until then, thanks for the refreshingly intelligent, common sense perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RockyRoad, if you add a PhD (piled higher and deeper) to your BS and MS (more of the same), perhaps you can get multi-million dollar grants to manipulate statistics and support post-modern science.  Until then, thanks for the refreshingly intelligent, common sense perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: RockyRoad</title>
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		<dc:creator>RockyRoad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As one who has a BS and MS in geology (and my master&#039;s thesis was on vulcanology), I can tell you attributing this or any other eruption to the implausible theory of global warming is laughable.  Sure, removing some ice from above a volcano may make it erupt a bit quicker, but the driving forces behind volcanoes has precious little to do with global warming.  (Yet the reverse is true--volcanoes have had a very significant impact on climate and will continue to do so; they are probably the biggest contributor to mid-term temperature swings since their activity seems to by cyclical and clustered, outstripped only by large meteor impacts.)

&quot;Global Warming&quot; has so imbued the thought processes of so many scientists that they look at all phenomena through CO2-colored lenses yet past temperature extremes had nothing to do with CO2--the abundance of that gas in the atmosphere is a trailing indicator, and not a causitive, leading indicator.  (The biggest immediate source of CO2 is volcanic eruptions, yet the dust factor has cause a significant DROP in global temperature, not a warming.)

There have been hundreds of temperature swings in the past million years and while there are a number of factors driving these swings, a primary cause is volcanic activity.  And no, anthropogenic factors were not the cause.  Man&#039;s puny impact is way overblown; many scientists can&#039;t even see it in the measurements.

Sorry, but I&#039;m not going to provide references for my position--you all are capable individuals and can dig out sufficient resources to suit your own purposes.  My opinions are based on decades of studying the science and evaluating what hundreds of researchers have had to say on the subject.  Some are laughable in their conclusions (I think they&#039;re chasing grants which is despicable behavior because it distorts the outcome) while others are impervious to the current political winds and are objective in their conclusions, which is what real science is all about.

There&#039;s way too much post-normal &quot;science&quot; out there, which is horribly sad since that isn&#039;t science at all.  Post-normal science is akin to ascribing CO2 as the cause of volcanic eruptions--it may be politically correct to do so and models may be built to show a correlation (what can&#039;t be modeled, right?), but it isn&#039;t based on observation.  Oops!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As one who has a BS and MS in geology (and my master&#8217;s thesis was on vulcanology), I can tell you attributing this or any other eruption to the implausible theory of global warming is laughable.  Sure, removing some ice from above a volcano may make it erupt a bit quicker, but the driving forces behind volcanoes has precious little to do with global warming.  (Yet the reverse is true&#8211;volcanoes have had a very significant impact on climate and will continue to do so; they are probably the biggest contributor to mid-term temperature swings since their activity seems to by cyclical and clustered, outstripped only by large meteor impacts.)</p>
<p>&#8220;Global Warming&#8221; has so imbued the thought processes of so many scientists that they look at all phenomena through CO2-colored lenses yet past temperature extremes had nothing to do with CO2&#8211;the abundance of that gas in the atmosphere is a trailing indicator, and not a causitive, leading indicator.  (The biggest immediate source of CO2 is volcanic eruptions, yet the dust factor has cause a significant DROP in global temperature, not a warming.)</p>
<p>There have been hundreds of temperature swings in the past million years and while there are a number of factors driving these swings, a primary cause is volcanic activity.  And no, anthropogenic factors were not the cause.  Man&#8217;s puny impact is way overblown; many scientists can&#8217;t even see it in the measurements.</p>
<p>Sorry, but I&#8217;m not going to provide references for my position&#8211;you all are capable individuals and can dig out sufficient resources to suit your own purposes.  My opinions are based on decades of studying the science and evaluating what hundreds of researchers have had to say on the subject.  Some are laughable in their conclusions (I think they&#8217;re chasing grants which is despicable behavior because it distorts the outcome) while others are impervious to the current political winds and are objective in their conclusions, which is what real science is all about.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s way too much post-normal &#8220;science&#8221; out there, which is horribly sad since that isn&#8217;t science at all.  Post-normal science is akin to ascribing CO2 as the cause of volcanic eruptions&#8211;it may be politically correct to do so and models may be built to show a correlation (what can&#8217;t be modeled, right?), but it isn&#8217;t based on observation.  Oops!</p>
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		<title>By: m</title>
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		<dc:creator>m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>omg...are you kidding me?

There&#039;s so much wrong with this article, I need a Scotch just to get organized.

This is why I limit my &quot;Discover&quot; exposure to online and have cancelled my subscription.

Shame on you Discover - you used to be better than this. It just breaks my heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omg&#8230;are you kidding me?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s so much wrong with this article, I need a Scotch just to get organized.</p>
<p>This is why I limit my &#8220;Discover&#8221; exposure to online and have cancelled my subscription.</p>
<p>Shame on you Discover &#8211; you used to be better than this. It just breaks my heart.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren Emerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren Emerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 13:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sentence &quot;Scientists worry about [fill in the blank] is becoming boring.  They are developing a reputation of &#039;The boy who cried wolf.&#039;  In this case, if the event actually occurs, the possible effect of more volcanoes could result in lowered temperatures, and we would then be glad that there is a global warming effect to offset it.  The climate bounced to extremes 15,000 to 12,000 years ago suggesting massive quick changes.  The point of this is that trying to predict precisely  what will happen in the future climate is a fools errand.

From a policy point of view this suggests that instead of trying to prevent the inevitable, we should be learning and planning on how to respond and adapt.  In the last period this occurred, people survived through it, so they were smart enough to respond... mostly by moving from one place to another.  In a settled world like today, we should be planning on how we would handle extremely hot weather or extremely cold.  In an extremely cold weather situation, it is not inconceivable that Canadians and Americans would want to move to the south quickly.  That would make US citizens the &#039;wet backs&#039; trying to seek asylum in Mexico...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sentence &#8220;Scientists worry about [fill in the blank] is becoming boring.  They are developing a reputation of &#8216;The boy who cried wolf.&#8217;  In this case, if the event actually occurs, the possible effect of more volcanoes could result in lowered temperatures, and we would then be glad that there is a global warming effect to offset it.  The climate bounced to extremes 15,000 to 12,000 years ago suggesting massive quick changes.  The point of this is that trying to predict precisely  what will happen in the future climate is a fools errand.</p>
<p>From a policy point of view this suggests that instead of trying to prevent the inevitable, we should be learning and planning on how to respond and adapt.  In the last period this occurred, people survived through it, so they were smart enough to respond&#8230; mostly by moving from one place to another.  In a settled world like today, we should be planning on how we would handle extremely hot weather or extremely cold.  In an extremely cold weather situation, it is not inconceivable that Canadians and Americans would want to move to the south quickly.  That would make US citizens the &#8216;wet backs&#8217; trying to seek asylum in Mexico&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nomad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nomad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 04:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol...I know, I was seriously thanking you for the clarification, and I am having a lot of fun with this :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol&#8230;I know, I was seriously thanking you for the clarification, and I am having a lot of fun with this <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: carddan</title>
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		<dc:creator>carddan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 04:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nomad, I wasn&#039;t trying to correct you before, just having fun. If Yellowstone goes, there might not be anyone to hypothesize on how CO2 emissions caused it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nomad, I wasn&#8217;t trying to correct you before, just having fun. If Yellowstone goes, there might not be anyone to hypothesize on how CO2 emissions caused it.</p>
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		<title>By: Nomad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nomad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 04:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for clarifying, I wasn&#039;t saying that any one of the Icelandic volcanoes are like the Toba eruption, or the more terrifying Yellowstone caldera, which if it explodes, immediately impacts the worlds food supply, as most of it is grown in the middle of the U.S. if that happens revolution will look like a church picnic compared to what will happen. There will be another genetic &quot;bottleneck&quot;, but the human race will survive.

Here&#039;s something to lull the kids to sleep, the Yellowstone caldera blows every 600,000 - 800,000 years...the last eruption was 640,000 years ago. The earth above the caldera has been rising as of late and would dwarf the Toba eruption. If that eruption reduced our numbers to 5,000 - 10,000, just imagine what Yellowstone can do.

Sweet dreams...lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for clarifying, I wasn&#8217;t saying that any one of the Icelandic volcanoes are like the Toba eruption, or the more terrifying Yellowstone caldera, which if it explodes, immediately impacts the worlds food supply, as most of it is grown in the middle of the U.S. if that happens revolution will look like a church picnic compared to what will happen. There will be another genetic &#8220;bottleneck&#8221;, but the human race will survive.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s something to lull the kids to sleep, the Yellowstone caldera blows every 600,000 &#8211; 800,000 years&#8230;the last eruption was 640,000 years ago. The earth above the caldera has been rising as of late and would dwarf the Toba eruption. If that eruption reduced our numbers to 5,000 &#8211; 10,000, just imagine what Yellowstone can do.</p>
<p>Sweet dreams&#8230;lol</p>
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