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	<title>Comments on: &quot;The Shallows&quot; Rehashes the Weak Argument That Google Makes You Stupid</title>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve noticed The Shallows effect in reading young people in internet forums.  They regard concentration and deep thought as &quot;obsessive&quot; and call people who still have that ability &quot;creepy&quot;.  It makes me wonder if someone isn&#039;t orchestrating this dumbing down to make the next generation better workers who don&#039;t think, they just do as they&#039;re instructed....like robots.  Another annoying trait is reading what someone has said and leaving a link to the quote as though that would just settle the matter.  No thought, no digging deeper, no exploring an idea for the pros and cons, just acceptance of what you&#039;ve read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve noticed The Shallows effect in reading young people in internet forums.  They regard concentration and deep thought as &#8220;obsessive&#8221; and call people who still have that ability &#8220;creepy&#8221;.  It makes me wonder if someone isn&#8217;t orchestrating this dumbing down to make the next generation better workers who don&#8217;t think, they just do as they&#8217;re instructed&#8230;.like robots.  Another annoying trait is reading what someone has said and leaving a link to the quote as though that would just settle the matter.  No thought, no digging deeper, no exploring an idea for the pros and cons, just acceptance of what you&#8217;ve read.</p>
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		<title>By: Michel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just in case you&#039;re interested--we have Nicholas Carr coming to speak at the Commonwealth Club on 6/14/2010.  He&#039;s part of a crazy double feature that includes the Facebook Effect.  check it out! http://bit.ly/DblFeat.  Hope to see you there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just in case you&#8217;re interested&#8211;we have Nicholas Carr coming to speak at the Commonwealth Club on 6/14/2010.  He&#8217;s part of a crazy double feature that includes the Facebook Effect.  check it out! <a href="http://bit.ly/DblFeat" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/DblFeat</a>.  Hope to see you there!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 21:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this &#039;Shallow&#039; review of that excellent book proves that Nick Carr is correct in his assessment.

Quote from &#039;The Shallows&#039;:

&quot;Considering how much easier it is to search digital text than printed text, the common assumption has been that making journals available on the net would significantly broaden the scope of scholarly research, leading to a much more diverse set of citations. But that&#039;s not at all what Evans [Sociologist of the University of Chicago] discovered. As more journals moved online, scholars actually cited fewer articles that they had before. And as old issues of printed journals were digitized and uploaded to the Web, scholars cited more recent articles with increasing frequency. A broadening of available information led as Evans described it to a “narrowing of science and scholarship.”. In explaining the counter intuitive findings in a 2008 ‘Science’ article, Evans noted that automated information-filtering tools, such as search engines, tend to serve as amplifiers of popularity, quickly establishing and then continually reinforcing a consensus about what information is important and what isn’t.” - The Shallows (page 217)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this &#8216;Shallow&#8217; review of that excellent book proves that Nick Carr is correct in his assessment.</p>
<p>Quote from &#8216;The Shallows&#8217;:</p>
<p>&#8220;Considering how much easier it is to search digital text than printed text, the common assumption has been that making journals available on the net would significantly broaden the scope of scholarly research, leading to a much more diverse set of citations. But that&#8217;s not at all what Evans [Sociologist of the University of Chicago] discovered. As more journals moved online, scholars actually cited fewer articles that they had before. And as old issues of printed journals were digitized and uploaded to the Web, scholars cited more recent articles with increasing frequency. A broadening of available information led as Evans described it to a “narrowing of science and scholarship.”. In explaining the counter intuitive findings in a 2008 ‘Science’ article, Evans noted that automated information-filtering tools, such as search engines, tend to serve as amplifiers of popularity, quickly establishing and then continually reinforcing a consensus about what information is important and what isn’t.” &#8211; The Shallows (page 217)</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Moseman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Moseman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@6 thanks for the catch, fixed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@6 thanks for the catch, fixed.</p>
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		<title>By: Katharine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2010/06/07/the-shallows-rehashes-the-weak-argument-that-google-makes-you-stupid/#comment-19681</link>
		<dc:creator>Katharine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 12:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction: Jonah Lehrer is not a neuroscientist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction: Jonah Lehrer is not a neuroscientist.</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2010/06/07/the-shallows-rehashes-the-weak-argument-that-google-makes-you-stupid/#comment-19680</link>
		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 09:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Omg the printing press/radio/tv/video games/the internet/something else new is going to destroy our way of life as we know it!

And you know what, it&#039;s true. It&#039;s happened every time. And every time, for the better.

If they think this technology is disruptive, they should take a look at 100 years ago and try to figure out what parts of our modern life would be imaginable to people in their primes at that time. Who were busy saying that something new was foolish and ruining kids (probably the new child labor laws that prevented them from working in mines).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Omg the printing press/radio/tv/video games/the internet/something else new is going to destroy our way of life as we know it!</p>
<p>And you know what, it&#8217;s true. It&#8217;s happened every time. And every time, for the better.</p>
<p>If they think this technology is disruptive, they should take a look at 100 years ago and try to figure out what parts of our modern life would be imaginable to people in their primes at that time. Who were busy saying that something new was foolish and ruining kids (probably the new child labor laws that prevented them from working in mines).</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 23:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ #3: Who said anything about AlleGory?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ #3: Who said anything about AlleGory?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Daugherty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Daugherty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 20:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al Gore voted for the legislation to privatize the internet, make it something else than just another DARPA defense project.  He said as much.  He never said he invented the internet, yet this story still has legs.

Interesting that a claim that would make a man a liar and teller of tall tales is itself an exaggeration and a lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al Gore voted for the legislation to privatize the internet, make it something else than just another DARPA defense project.  He said as much.  He never said he invented the internet, yet this story still has legs.</p>
<p>Interesting that a claim that would make a man a liar and teller of tall tales is itself an exaggeration and a lie.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should have heard all the &quot;tut-tutting&quot; when Algorp invented the Interbeach and spent all day making marks in the sand on the riverbank with a stick. &quot;Those antelopes aren&#039;t going to hunt themselves, Algorp! Those berries aren&#039;t going to gather themselves!&quot;, yelled his wife, Tipr. [Translation to English provided by translate.Ggggl.beach] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should have heard all the &#8220;tut-tutting&#8221; when Algorp invented the Interbeach and spent all day making marks in the sand on the riverbank with a stick. &#8220;Those antelopes aren&#8217;t going to hunt themselves, Algorp! Those berries aren&#8217;t going to gather themselves!&#8221;, yelled his wife, Tipr. [Translation to English provided by translate.Ggggl.beach] </p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2010/06/07/the-shallows-rehashes-the-weak-argument-that-google-makes-you-stupid/#comment-19676</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought this article (as well as Carr&#039;s article) was really interesting and thought provok....OH LOOK! Banner ads!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought this article (as well as Carr&#8217;s article) was really interesting and thought provok&#8230;.OH LOOK! Banner ads!</p>
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