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	<title>Comments on: Obama Announces $2 Billion for 2 Ambitious Solar Power Schemes</title>
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		<title>By: Solar Quote</title>
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		<dc:creator>Solar Quote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 09:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Government solar installers have given way to large subsidies for solar companies to install free systems on your roof in response for having this feed in tariff and providing free generated electricity from their panels. You should be wary and ensure that you have done your homework before undertaking one of these schemes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Government solar installers have given way to large subsidies for solar companies to install free systems on your roof in response for having this feed in tariff and providing free generated electricity from their panels. You should be wary and ensure that you have done your homework before undertaking one of these schemes.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Too</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 00:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally, a US President investing in an energy idea that isn&#039;t fossil fuels, has a decent shot at practicality, and might even generate some jobs and investment in a time of recession.  That&#039;s refreshing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, a US President investing in an energy idea that isn&#8217;t fossil fuels, has a decent shot at practicality, and might even generate some jobs and investment in a time of recession.  That&#8217;s refreshing.</p>
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		<title>By: max</title>
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		<dc:creator>max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 21:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen, Stephen, Stephen. I&#039;m not saying nothing should be regulated. Most importantly there ARE 16,000 new IRS agents to be hired. IT&#039;S IN THE HEATH CARE BILL!!! I did not pull that number out of of nowhere, its in the bill. Unfortunately nobody did read it, so now we have all these one liners in the bill that don&#039;t seem to make a difference, but will in truth make a few people rich while giving minimum levels of care to the rest of the people. The wars are irrelevant to this argument. 

Moral of the story, more government would be a good idea, if we could control our government. Problem is, that no matter what happens, people are greedy. Whether they are in power due to government or due to their own hard work, they will want more and will fight to preserve themselves over the &quot;little&quot; people. I say at least when I am spending my own money I know where it is going. 

Pithy quote #2: &quot;Silly liberals, paychecks are for workers.&quot;

And by the way, I can take care of myself. I don&#039;t need the government to protect me from anything. Unless Hillary gets the Small Arms Ban Treaty passed, then I will have to protect myself from my own government as well as outsiders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen, Stephen, Stephen. I&#8217;m not saying nothing should be regulated. Most importantly there ARE 16,000 new IRS agents to be hired. IT&#8217;S IN THE HEATH CARE BILL!!! I did not pull that number out of of nowhere, its in the bill. Unfortunately nobody did read it, so now we have all these one liners in the bill that don&#8217;t seem to make a difference, but will in truth make a few people rich while giving minimum levels of care to the rest of the people. The wars are irrelevant to this argument. </p>
<p>Moral of the story, more government would be a good idea, if we could control our government. Problem is, that no matter what happens, people are greedy. Whether they are in power due to government or due to their own hard work, they will want more and will fight to preserve themselves over the &#8220;little&#8221; people. I say at least when I am spending my own money I know where it is going. </p>
<p>Pithy quote #2: &#8220;Silly liberals, paychecks are for workers.&#8221;</p>
<p>And by the way, I can take care of myself. I don&#8217;t need the government to protect me from anything. Unless Hillary gets the Small Arms Ban Treaty passed, then I will have to protect myself from my own government as well as outsiders.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Daugherty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Daugherty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 19:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max-
&lt;blockquote&gt;This is a great idea in theory, as we all love new jobs, but we don’t have money right now. We are in severe debt.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Because of the non-socialists before him, the folks who let the markets police themselves, and would let them do so again, though they failed utterly at the task.  These were the folks who gave us two wars and an entitlement program without raising taxes to cover the cost or offsetting the spending.  Those mistakes cost this country &lt;i&gt;trillions.&lt;/i&gt;  But you are going to blast us over a couple of billion dollars investment which will help us offset our dependence on fossil fuels.

&lt;blockquote&gt;And what is this pulling money off the stimulus bill from last year. He already spent the $800,000,000 stimulus. Remember? That was the point of the stimulus! All the stimulus has done so far is increase public sector jobs. Great, more government employees. 16,000 new IRS agents hired for Obama-care. Why is that? Oh yea, so they can badger people who aren’t buying insurance, or companies that don’t offer enough. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Jobs are jobs, and your statements here are lies.  Not yours necessarily, but lies nonetheless.  There aren&#039;t going to be thousands of new IRS agents.  It boggles my mind that people actually trust those Radio Talk Show Hosts and TV personalities, given all the apologetics they did for the failures that were running our country until recently.

Fact of the matter is, this paid for private sector jobs, gave money and tax breaks to private businesses, and delivered almost forty percent of its money to a tax cut for working class Americans.

But even so, a public sector job still pays money, and people still spend that public sector job money at private sector businesses.  The point isn&#039;t where the money starts, it&#039;s where it ends up.

&lt;blockquote&gt; “A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How about this:  &quot;A Government small enough to let you do anything you want is a government too small to keep somebody from taking away everything from you.&quot;

See?  I got a pithy quote, too!

Welcome to the new gilded age, where the failure to manage the government and the economy properly is taken as reason to be even more incompetent and laissez faire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max-</p>
<blockquote><p>This is a great idea in theory, as we all love new jobs, but we don’t have money right now. We are in severe debt.</p></blockquote>
<p>Because of the non-socialists before him, the folks who let the markets police themselves, and would let them do so again, though they failed utterly at the task.  These were the folks who gave us two wars and an entitlement program without raising taxes to cover the cost or offsetting the spending.  Those mistakes cost this country <i>trillions.</i>  But you are going to blast us over a couple of billion dollars investment which will help us offset our dependence on fossil fuels.</p>
<blockquote><p>And what is this pulling money off the stimulus bill from last year. He already spent the $800,000,000 stimulus. Remember? That was the point of the stimulus! All the stimulus has done so far is increase public sector jobs. Great, more government employees. 16,000 new IRS agents hired for Obama-care. Why is that? Oh yea, so they can badger people who aren’t buying insurance, or companies that don’t offer enough. </p></blockquote>
<p>Jobs are jobs, and your statements here are lies.  Not yours necessarily, but lies nonetheless.  There aren&#8217;t going to be thousands of new IRS agents.  It boggles my mind that people actually trust those Radio Talk Show Hosts and TV personalities, given all the apologetics they did for the failures that were running our country until recently.</p>
<p>Fact of the matter is, this paid for private sector jobs, gave money and tax breaks to private businesses, and delivered almost forty percent of its money to a tax cut for working class Americans.</p>
<p>But even so, a public sector job still pays money, and people still spend that public sector job money at private sector businesses.  The point isn&#8217;t where the money starts, it&#8217;s where it ends up.</p>
<blockquote><p> “A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have.”</p></blockquote>
<p>How about this:  &#8220;A Government small enough to let you do anything you want is a government too small to keep somebody from taking away everything from you.&#8221;</p>
<p>See?  I got a pithy quote, too!</p>
<p>Welcome to the new gilded age, where the failure to manage the government and the economy properly is taken as reason to be even more incompetent and laissez faire.</p>
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		<title>By: Digi Mike</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2010/07/06/obama-announces-2-billion-for-2-ambitious-solar-power-schemes/comment-page-1/#comment-212616</link>
		<dc:creator>Digi Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 17:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a nice step but too little. We have great economic need to and amazing opportunity to switch to solar. This is one industry that can employ many people in the US before it escapes to Asia… In the same time we can limit oil money that go away to Middle East. What about environmental impact? I am really surprised Obama administration sending only small tokens of attention to this amazing opportunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a nice step but too little. We have great economic need to and amazing opportunity to switch to solar. This is one industry that can employ many people in the US before it escapes to Asia… In the same time we can limit oil money that go away to Middle East. What about environmental impact? I am really surprised Obama administration sending only small tokens of attention to this amazing opportunity.</p>
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		<title>By: Steiner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 13:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Clark: Perhaps you are confused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Clark: Perhaps you are confused.</p>
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		<title>By: max</title>
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		<dc:creator>max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 04:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great idea in theory, as we all love new jobs, but we don&#039;t have money right now. We are in severe debt. If solar is so great then we wouldn&#039;t need to subsidize it. Think people. Obama giving us our own tax money back through a giant government-owned solar plant isn&#039;t helping our country because it is putting us deeper into debt. 

And what is this pulling money off the stimulus bill from last year. He already spent the $800,000,000 stimulus. Remember? That was the point of the stimulus!  All the stimulus has done so far is increase public sector jobs. Great, more government employees. 16,000 new IRS agents hired for Obama-care. Why is that? Oh yea, so they can badger people who aren&#039;t buying insurance, or companies that don&#039;t offer enough. 

Welcome to Socialism. Remember, it starts slow. If it all happened at once we wouldn&#039;t take it lying down. &quot;A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great idea in theory, as we all love new jobs, but we don&#8217;t have money right now. We are in severe debt. If solar is so great then we wouldn&#8217;t need to subsidize it. Think people. Obama giving us our own tax money back through a giant government-owned solar plant isn&#8217;t helping our country because it is putting us deeper into debt. </p>
<p>And what is this pulling money off the stimulus bill from last year. He already spent the $800,000,000 stimulus. Remember? That was the point of the stimulus!  All the stimulus has done so far is increase public sector jobs. Great, more government employees. 16,000 new IRS agents hired for Obama-care. Why is that? Oh yea, so they can badger people who aren&#8217;t buying insurance, or companies that don&#8217;t offer enough. </p>
<p>Welcome to Socialism. Remember, it starts slow. If it all happened at once we wouldn&#8217;t take it lying down. &#8220;A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Solar Power</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Solar Power</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 01:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m happy to see more and more people are starting to notice the importance of renewable energy and are taking steps to doing so. I hope one day people will start using solar panels for their home energy needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m happy to see more and more people are starting to notice the importance of renewable energy and are taking steps to doing so. I hope one day people will start using solar panels for their home energy needs.</p>
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		<title>By: sanud002</title>
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		<dc:creator>sanud002</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 19:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so glad to see the president taking large strides toward real change in our domestic energy policy. It is becoming more and more practical everyday to use solar energy and I believe it beed to be one of the county&#039;s main policy focuses. This is such an exciting time for solar energy. It seem like daily I&#039;m reading about a new technological breakthrough in solar power technology. One of my recent favorites is about a solar cell that the military has developed that is not only cheap and flexible but 10,000 times more efficient. This is the kind of progressive thinking we need more of in the world today. I&#039;ll post a link to the video about the technology if you would like to learn more.

http://www.ndep.us/Its-a-Small-World</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad to see the president taking large strides toward real change in our domestic energy policy. It is becoming more and more practical everyday to use solar energy and I believe it beed to be one of the county&#8217;s main policy focuses. This is such an exciting time for solar energy. It seem like daily I&#8217;m reading about a new technological breakthrough in solar power technology. One of my recent favorites is about a solar cell that the military has developed that is not only cheap and flexible but 10,000 times more efficient. This is the kind of progressive thinking we need more of in the world today. I&#8217;ll post a link to the video about the technology if you would like to learn more.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ndep.us/Its-a-Small-World" rel="nofollow">http://www.ndep.us/Its-a-Small-World</a></p>
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		<title>By: Clark in Philadelphia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clark in Philadelphia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 16:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will the representatives of this Spanish company, who bring the know-how and initiative to this Arizona enterprise, be alienated when they are stopped by cops and asked to present papers? Arizona, this investment was funded by 50 states, most of which still have welcome mats for investors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will the representatives of this Spanish company, who bring the know-how and initiative to this Arizona enterprise, be alienated when they are stopped by cops and asked to present papers? Arizona, this investment was funded by 50 states, most of which still have welcome mats for investors.</p>
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		<title>By: Easybuild Construction Software</title>
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		<dc:creator>Easybuild Construction Software</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 15:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a lot of money but hopefully it will help give the economy a push in the right direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a lot of money but hopefully it will help give the economy a push in the right direction.</p>
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