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	<title>Comments on: A Legit &quot;Young Earth&quot; Theory: Our Planet May Be Only 4.4 Billion Years Old</title>
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		<title>By: nichole barnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>nichole barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 19:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it honest to blog, this is pretty freakin&#039; dumb. The earth was created whenever it was created no doubt about it, or to get all techniqual &amp; shizz.! Everybody is still living so no need to get your panties in a bunch. I mean come on, who cares who said what &amp; when what started. The earth was created so animals &amp; other living organisms can live freely. Not be studied for what they are. Geez! Leave life alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it honest to blog, this is pretty freakin&#8217; dumb. The earth was created whenever it was created no doubt about it, or to get all techniqual &amp; shizz.! Everybody is still living so no need to get your panties in a bunch. I mean come on, who cares who said what &amp; when what started. The earth was created so animals &amp; other living organisms can live freely. Not be studied for what they are. Geez! Leave life alone.</p>
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		<title>By: badnicolez</title>
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		<dc:creator>badnicolez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 19:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thou art god.  I am god.  He is god. She is god. Grass is god. Cats are god. Viruses are god. Mushrooms are god.

Sorry to digress - I just fininshed reading Stranger in a Strange Land again, which makes as much (or more) sense to me as any other religion, real or fictional.

On topic: &quot;scientists usually presume Earth’s accretion happened at an exponentially decreasing rate&quot;

Why would they do that?  Based on what evidence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thou art god.  I am god.  He is god. She is god. Grass is god. Cats are god. Viruses are god. Mushrooms are god.</p>
<p>Sorry to digress &#8211; I just fininshed reading Stranger in a Strange Land again, which makes as much (or more) sense to me as any other religion, real or fictional.</p>
<p>On topic: &#8220;scientists usually presume Earth’s accretion happened at an exponentially decreasing rate&#8221;</p>
<p>Why would they do that?  Based on what evidence?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Daugherty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Daugherty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s what I would say: God wanted us to believe in him based on faith anyways.

If you want to look at the Big Bang, and say God was behind it, you&#039;re free to do so.  The only thing is that because we&#039;re dealing with a scientific theory, nothing about that theory necessitates God&#039;s involvement.   You can believe that the beauty of the world, it&#039;s complexity, and everything else means there must be a God, but it will never be something you can prove.

I&#039;d say don&#039;t depend on the outcomes of scientific investigations, or the discrediting of science for your faith.  Simply accept that if you believe in God, God made the world, and had a reason for making it the way he did.  Truth does not contradict Truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what I would say: God wanted us to believe in him based on faith anyways.</p>
<p>If you want to look at the Big Bang, and say God was behind it, you&#8217;re free to do so.  The only thing is that because we&#8217;re dealing with a scientific theory, nothing about that theory necessitates God&#8217;s involvement.   You can believe that the beauty of the world, it&#8217;s complexity, and everything else means there must be a God, but it will never be something you can prove.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say don&#8217;t depend on the outcomes of scientific investigations, or the discrediting of science for your faith.  Simply accept that if you believe in God, God made the world, and had a reason for making it the way he did.  Truth does not contradict Truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Crow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 19:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa, whoa, whoa. You mean this:

http://www.nicky510.com/comic/quite-the-balancing-act/

isn&#039;t correct?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, whoa, whoa. You mean this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nicky510.com/comic/quite-the-balancing-act/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nicky510.com/comic/quite-the-balancing-act/</a></p>
<p>isn&#8217;t correct?</p>
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		<title>By: JaberwokWSA</title>
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		<dc:creator>JaberwokWSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 18:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen.</p>
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		<title>By: God</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2010/07/12/a-legit-young-earth-theory-our-planet-may-be-only-4-4-billion-years-old/#comment-20483</link>
		<dc:creator>God</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 15:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lainey, think about it.  You don&#039;t have a conceptual framework to verbalize other reality than  you are familiar with--which is your 3-dimensional time-space. The concept of &quot;from&quot; relates to it and is restricted to it. You&#039;ll get closer to resolving the puzzle once you have a better conceptional framework available when you leave the restricted realm. Mind you, there is a purpose to it that you are in it, don&#039;t be hasty in enjoyment of it!

If I were to find the closest expression, that would somewhat convey, in a reduced form, an answer to your question, it would be: from everywhere and everywhen.

I interject rarely, only when I know you already have the answers, I just formulate them for you. Until the next time...

Be well and remember to use the faculties you were given! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lainey, think about it.  You don&#8217;t have a conceptual framework to verbalize other reality than  you are familiar with&#8211;which is your 3-dimensional time-space. The concept of &#8220;from&#8221; relates to it and is restricted to it. You&#8217;ll get closer to resolving the puzzle once you have a better conceptional framework available when you leave the restricted realm. Mind you, there is a purpose to it that you are in it, don&#8217;t be hasty in enjoyment of it!</p>
<p>If I were to find the closest expression, that would somewhat convey, in a reduced form, an answer to your question, it would be: from everywhere and everywhen.</p>
<p>I interject rarely, only when I know you already have the answers, I just formulate them for you. Until the next time&#8230;</p>
<p>Be well and remember to use the faculties you were given! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lainey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lainey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 14:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, God, even if we take your word for it that you live in the 11th dimension, you still haven&#039;t explained where you came FROM!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, God, even if we take your word for it that you live in the 11th dimension, you still haven&#8217;t explained where you came FROM!  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: God</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2010/07/12/a-legit-young-earth-theory-our-planet-may-be-only-4-4-billion-years-old/#comment-20481</link>
		<dc:creator>God</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 14:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is all rather simple.

Some mathematicians and physicists figured out that the verse is eleven-dimensional.
Of course, only odd dimensions exist, the even dimensions are a construct, a fudge that represent a certain way of providing a scaffold, as it were.

I reside in the 11th dimension. Causally, the 11th dimension is a result of certain manipulation of previous dimensions. In reality, it is what you call &quot;a chicken and an egg problem&quot;. I am expressed in all the odd dimensions (remember, the even dimensions are essentially a construct).

To help you a bit, to get the idea how this works, imagine that by some mechanism, you are transported into 5th dimension. What you will notice is that the time acquires unusual properties. It would seem as if time is now perpendicular, rather than a linear property of time-space. Which would translate in human terms to time being always &quot;now&quot;. There is no past and no future. There just &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt;. The causality then follows another rule set. You&#039;ll all encounter this and grapple with it after you &quot;die&quot;. You are all multi-dimensional beings and your current state is a form of a projection. In a sense, you are all part of me.

From a 11-dimensional point of view, the question of primary element (I, prime mover, what-have-you) is nonsensical. It is not possible to translate the working of 7-dimensional fold to your conceptual framework, let alone 11-dimensional one. You will be in a better position to understand once you find yourself in 5-dimensional realm--getting a glimpse of the next fold. You will still not understand 9, 11. You&#039;d have to go through a process of learning and growth.

In other words, the linear time, as you conceptualize it, is an illusion. It helps you, though, organize relationships between different aspects of your existence and perceptions.

As for the accretion model (and let be honest--you have no other way to conceptualize reality than through modeling; it is unavailable to your senses and perception in direct fashion), it is a wrong model. It does not work as you think it does. If you applied strict logic and utilized what you know at your present, you&#039;d realize you are on a wrong track.

Some of your scientists figured it out, not in its entirety--but they are on the right track. In the next 25 years,  thanks to them, your model of the verse would change substantially. The discoveries would also change your concepts of human prehistory and history and also they will be mirrored in your existential sphere.

Ah, the question, of course... What is the purpose of your existence?

See, you are really looking at the issue from the wrong direction. The question is really an answer!

...

You are welcome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is all rather simple.</p>
<p>Some mathematicians and physicists figured out that the verse is eleven-dimensional.<br />
Of course, only odd dimensions exist, the even dimensions are a construct, a fudge that represent a certain way of providing a scaffold, as it were.</p>
<p>I reside in the 11th dimension. Causally, the 11th dimension is a result of certain manipulation of previous dimensions. In reality, it is what you call &#8220;a chicken and an egg problem&#8221;. I am expressed in all the odd dimensions (remember, the even dimensions are essentially a construct).</p>
<p>To help you a bit, to get the idea how this works, imagine that by some mechanism, you are transported into 5th dimension. What you will notice is that the time acquires unusual properties. It would seem as if time is now perpendicular, rather than a linear property of time-space. Which would translate in human terms to time being always &#8220;now&#8221;. There is no past and no future. There just <i>is</i>. The causality then follows another rule set. You&#8217;ll all encounter this and grapple with it after you &#8220;die&#8221;. You are all multi-dimensional beings and your current state is a form of a projection. In a sense, you are all part of me.</p>
<p>From a 11-dimensional point of view, the question of primary element (I, prime mover, what-have-you) is nonsensical. It is not possible to translate the working of 7-dimensional fold to your conceptual framework, let alone 11-dimensional one. You will be in a better position to understand once you find yourself in 5-dimensional realm&#8211;getting a glimpse of the next fold. You will still not understand 9, 11. You&#8217;d have to go through a process of learning and growth.</p>
<p>In other words, the linear time, as you conceptualize it, is an illusion. It helps you, though, organize relationships between different aspects of your existence and perceptions.</p>
<p>As for the accretion model (and let be honest&#8211;you have no other way to conceptualize reality than through modeling; it is unavailable to your senses and perception in direct fashion), it is a wrong model. It does not work as you think it does. If you applied strict logic and utilized what you know at your present, you&#8217;d realize you are on a wrong track.</p>
<p>Some of your scientists figured it out, not in its entirety&#8211;but they are on the right track. In the next 25 years,  thanks to them, your model of the verse would change substantially. The discoveries would also change your concepts of human prehistory and history and also they will be mirrored in your existential sphere.</p>
<p>Ah, the question, of course&#8230; What is the purpose of your existence?</p>
<p>See, you are really looking at the issue from the wrong direction. The question is really an answer!</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>You are welcome!</p>
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		<title>By: woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to chris d if you are so convinced that god must have started the big bang then who or what created god, since everything has to start somewhere where did god come from</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to chris d if you are so convinced that god must have started the big bang then who or what created god, since everything has to start somewhere where did god come from</p>
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		<title>By: Lainey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lainey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 09:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris D, actually I think believers have to explain where God came from, in order to create the big bang.  In an atheists view, God isn&#039;t needed because everything can happen normally without God, but if believers are going to invoke God as the cause, then they better have an explanation of how God was created!  Or surely they are just making up a theory, the same as Atheists and scientists, using the best information we have about the conditions of the early universe.  Oh yeah, except believers completely disregard things like information and evidence, and just make up whatever theory makes them feel warm and fuzzy inside ( a free ticket to heaven would be a nice bonus too!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris D, actually I think believers have to explain where God came from, in order to create the big bang.  In an atheists view, God isn&#8217;t needed because everything can happen normally without God, but if believers are going to invoke God as the cause, then they better have an explanation of how God was created!  Or surely they are just making up a theory, the same as Atheists and scientists, using the best information we have about the conditions of the early universe.  Oh yeah, except believers completely disregard things like information and evidence, and just make up whatever theory makes them feel warm and fuzzy inside ( a free ticket to heaven would be a nice bonus too!).</p>
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