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	<title>Comments on: Do the Election Results Halt All Action on Climate Change?</title>
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		<title>By: Crow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 12:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Climate change - it&#039;s on their minds
http://www.nicky510.com/comic/its-all-a-matter-of-degree/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Climate change &#8211; it&#8217;s on their minds<br />
<a href="http://www.nicky510.com/comic/its-all-a-matter-of-degree/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nicky510.com/comic/its-all-a-matter-of-degree/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Eliza Strickland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eliza Strickland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 22:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Lorene50 and Bob White: 

The scientific consensus is strong and clear: heat-trapping gases emitted by humans since the industrial revolution are warming the planet. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2010/20100728_stateoftheclimate.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s a good report&lt;/a&gt; on the state of climate science, produced by more than 300 scientists from 160 research groups in 48 countries.

Here&#039;s a striking &lt;a href=&quot;http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;global temperature graph&lt;/a&gt; from NASA.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2010/06/22/1003187107.abstract&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s a study (available for free download)&lt;/a&gt; on the credibility of climate scientists on both sides of the &quot;debate&quot; over man-made global warming. It found that 97–98% of the most active and respected researchers in the field agree that human activities are warming our planet; it also found that &quot;the relative climate expertise and scientific prominence of the researchers unconvinced of ACC [anthropogenic climate change] are substantially below that of the convinced researchers.&quot; 

-- Eliza, DISCOVER online news editor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Lorene50 and Bob White: </p>
<p>The scientific consensus is strong and clear: heat-trapping gases emitted by humans since the industrial revolution are warming the planet. <a href="http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2010/20100728_stateoftheclimate.html" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s a good report</a> on the state of climate science, produced by more than 300 scientists from 160 research groups in 48 countries.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a striking <a href="http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/" rel="nofollow">global temperature graph</a> from NASA.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2010/06/22/1003187107.abstract" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s a study (available for free download)</a> on the credibility of climate scientists on both sides of the &#8220;debate&#8221; over man-made global warming. It found that 97–98% of the most active and respected researchers in the field agree that human activities are warming our planet; it also found that &#8220;the relative climate expertise and scientific prominence of the researchers unconvinced of ACC [anthropogenic climate change] are substantially below that of the convinced researchers.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8211; Eliza, DISCOVER online news editor</p>
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		<title>By: Bob White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 05:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does Discover continue its 25 history of promoting far left pseudo science? Why can&#039;t Discover find a writer motivated to DISCOVER and reveal actual scientific facts instead of repeating scientifically discredited far left propaganda?  Is it because there is a big market for it, or is it that the Discover editors have made up their minds and they don’t want to know the truth? 

They could be being paid off by GE, Big Oil and other international corporations who stand to make big money if Cap and Tax is implemented. Or they could be ideologues, like many world leaders who have declared over the last 30 years, that they support the anti-AGW movement whether AGW is true or not because it is a good motto on which to promote Redistribution of Wealth and Global Government.

JMW – you are about as naïve on McCarthy as you are on AGW as are your fellow travelers who have been indoctrinated, not educated. Google The Venona Papers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does Discover continue its 25 history of promoting far left pseudo science? Why can&#8217;t Discover find a writer motivated to DISCOVER and reveal actual scientific facts instead of repeating scientifically discredited far left propaganda?  Is it because there is a big market for it, or is it that the Discover editors have made up their minds and they don’t want to know the truth? </p>
<p>They could be being paid off by GE, Big Oil and other international corporations who stand to make big money if Cap and Tax is implemented. Or they could be ideologues, like many world leaders who have declared over the last 30 years, that they support the anti-AGW movement whether AGW is true or not because it is a good motto on which to promote Redistribution of Wealth and Global Government.</p>
<p>JMW – you are about as naïve on McCarthy as you are on AGW as are your fellow travelers who have been indoctrinated, not educated. Google The Venona Papers!</p>
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		<title>By: Lorne50</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorne50</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2010 22:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many climate scientists, still reeling from a year of largely unsubstantiated accusations  

Are you guy&#039;s for real That is the most bias statement I&#039;ve ever read on this site I guess i now know which mag i&#039;ll not renew this time shame on you for losing your science to go into pushing one side of a science that is not settled at all!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many climate scientists, still reeling from a year of largely unsubstantiated accusations  </p>
<p>Are you guy&#8217;s for real That is the most bias statement I&#8217;ve ever read on this site I guess i now know which mag i&#8217;ll not renew this time shame on you for losing your science to go into pushing one side of a science that is not settled at all!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jotaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jotaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2010 20:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s funny and sad at the same time is the preposterous idea that ad spending correlates highly with votes. It&#039;s out of this world!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s funny and sad at the same time is the preposterous idea that ad spending correlates highly with votes. It&#8217;s out of this world!</p>
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		<title>By: Cladinator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cladinator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2010 03:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just can&#039;t read this partisan, commie BS anymore.  This is horrible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just can&#8217;t read this partisan, commie BS anymore.  This is horrible.</p>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 11:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wayne -  in going green...  There will still be competition from China as it &quot;goes green&quot; and manufactures so called green products at cheaper prices than could be made in the US - same with all products and services that migrate to China and India.  

You are right, CO2 does not affect asthma perhaps, but all the other soots, chemical compounds, dusts, heavy metals, etc that come with the abuse of fossil fuels do, in fact, affect asthma and host of other diseases.  This obsession over CO2, and people forget about all the other, much nastier compounds lingering in the air, environment, their blood streams, etc from our wasteful, sloppy use of resources.  Of course, climate is important, ice caps, polar bears, but that has taken focus away from all the other crud we are still allowing into the environment that I feel is much worse for our biological web than CO2 and a few degrees, they are just tied together, a vast reduction in fossil fuel use will mean a vast reduction in chemical pollutants.  

Regardless, I don&#039;t want bible thumping, obese, close minded, &quot;know it all&quot; Texans meddling in what California does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne &#8211;  in going green&#8230;  There will still be competition from China as it &#8220;goes green&#8221; and manufactures so called green products at cheaper prices than could be made in the US &#8211; same with all products and services that migrate to China and India.  </p>
<p>You are right, CO2 does not affect asthma perhaps, but all the other soots, chemical compounds, dusts, heavy metals, etc that come with the abuse of fossil fuels do, in fact, affect asthma and host of other diseases.  This obsession over CO2, and people forget about all the other, much nastier compounds lingering in the air, environment, their blood streams, etc from our wasteful, sloppy use of resources.  Of course, climate is important, ice caps, polar bears, but that has taken focus away from all the other crud we are still allowing into the environment that I feel is much worse for our biological web than CO2 and a few degrees, they are just tied together, a vast reduction in fossil fuel use will mean a vast reduction in chemical pollutants.  </p>
<p>Regardless, I don&#8217;t want bible thumping, obese, close minded, &#8220;know it all&#8221; Texans meddling in what California does.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 04:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prop 23 failed because of a propaganda storm by the AB 32 shills. Asthmatic children ads when CO2 does no effect asthma? No shame... 
 
The day after Prop 23 is voted down, how ironic; 
Fremont-based solar panel maker Solyndra Inc. is scrapping its expansion plans. 
 
The company said Wednesday it has decided against enlarging its new Fremont plant and will close another factory in the San Francisco Bay area. 
 
Company spokesman David Miller tells the Oakland Tribune Solyndra needs to cut production costs amidst fierce competition from rival manufacturers in China and elsewhere in the United States. 
 
The company plans to eliminate 155 to 175 jobs at its Fremont site and cap its workforce at about a 1,000 people. 
 
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/11/04/state/n063849D07.DTL#ixzz14Mqo8euj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prop 23 failed because of a propaganda storm by the AB 32 shills. Asthmatic children ads when CO2 does no effect asthma? No shame&#8230; </p>
<p>The day after Prop 23 is voted down, how ironic;<br />
Fremont-based solar panel maker Solyndra Inc. is scrapping its expansion plans. </p>
<p>The company said Wednesday it has decided against enlarging its new Fremont plant and will close another factory in the San Francisco Bay area. </p>
<p>Company spokesman David Miller tells the Oakland Tribune Solyndra needs to cut production costs amidst fierce competition from rival manufacturers in China and elsewhere in the United States. </p>
<p>The company plans to eliminate 155 to 175 jobs at its Fremont site and cap its workforce at about a 1,000 people. </p>
<p>Read more: <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/11/04/state/n063849D07.DTL#ixzz14Mqo8euj" rel="nofollow">http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/11/04/state/n063849D07.DTL#ixzz14Mqo8euj</a></p>
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		<title>By: JOHN ROLIN</title>
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		<dc:creator>JOHN ROLIN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 03:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope so!  And may it never come back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope so!  And may it never come back.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 16:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been a sad day for the US and the planet.  Congressional hearings, R&amp;D funding, lawsuits, handcuffing the EPA, disincentives to be carbon-neutral are all now much more possible with the winds blowing in the direction of the Tea Party, a construct of AFP, a construct of the Koch Brothers.  The Kochs won the national election (although here in California they didn&#039;t succeed on Prop. 23) and as the window on effective action is closing rapidly they have double-handedly made it almost impossible for the US to lead the international effort for at least the next two years.  Rousing a scientifically ignorant public (see latest Yale study that gave D&#039;s or F&#039;s to three quarters of the public on their climate science knowledge) with their &quot;mad as hell&quot; Tea Party appeal was a brilliant political move, but may be disastrous for the planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been a sad day for the US and the planet.  Congressional hearings, R&#038;D funding, lawsuits, handcuffing the EPA, disincentives to be carbon-neutral are all now much more possible with the winds blowing in the direction of the Tea Party, a construct of AFP, a construct of the Koch Brothers.  The Kochs won the national election (although here in California they didn&#8217;t succeed on Prop. 23) and as the window on effective action is closing rapidly they have double-handedly made it almost impossible for the US to lead the international effort for at least the next two years.  Rousing a scientifically ignorant public (see latest Yale study that gave D&#8217;s or F&#8217;s to three quarters of the public on their climate science knowledge) with their &#8220;mad as hell&#8221; Tea Party appeal was a brilliant political move, but may be disastrous for the planet.</p>
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		<title>By: JMW</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 16:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize that time is short, however...

...if a Republican-controlled House convenes a series of hearings into climate science, the result could be a backlash if they become to McCarthyistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize that time is short, however&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;if a Republican-controlled House convenes a series of hearings into climate science, the result could be a backlash if they become to McCarthyistic.</p>
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