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	<title>Comments on: Life Found in the Deepest, Unexplored Layer of the Earth&#8217;s Crust</title>
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		<title>By: Lucifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 18:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys better get a grip on reality.  Life in a star is nonsense, except maybe  in Hollyweird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys better get a grip on reality.  Life in a star is nonsense, except maybe  in Hollyweird.</p>
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		<title>By: Iain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 06:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that every time they discover a new extreme-ophile it heartens scientists to believe life could exist in some harsh off planet environment? The extreme-ophiles didn&#039;t spring up in this weird place, life moved in. I&#039;m not saying it&#039;s impossible for life to exist elsewhere, I just don&#039;t like the argument as put forth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that every time they discover a new extreme-ophile it heartens scientists to believe life could exist in some harsh off planet environment? The extreme-ophiles didn&#8217;t spring up in this weird place, life moved in. I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s impossible for life to exist elsewhere, I just don&#8217;t like the argument as put forth.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 20:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t laugh at all, Scott.  In fact, I marvel at the universe when I consider that it functions with a &quot;logicworks&quot; that can scarcely be called &quot;dead&quot; or &quot;nonliving.&quot;  The universe is almost sentient.  It&#039;s a quantum computer that keeps with the necessary decisions to house the existence of all cosmic existences.  Why do atoms exist at the necessary mass and internal speeds to exist at all?  All in the universe is essentially made of many orders of &quot;motion,&quot; but what motivates all motion, and all so together on so many levels?   I think there&#039;s a rational explanation for it.  I think it begins by considering our definition of &quot;life.&quot;  What in the universe says that &quot;life&quot; is necessarily exclusive to &quot;organic biological life&quot;?

But at the same time, this article is exclusively talking about &quot;organic biological life.&quot;  I agree that this &quot;life&quot; prevails upon and beneath the earth in a wide variety of forms.  However, I think this only exists WITH Earth.  We have not found a single microscope on Mars, and I bet all the money in the world that we won&#039;t.  Mars was somewhat similar to Earth, but that does not necessarily mean it harnessed life like Earth.  Such a crude assumption is actually more fantastic than most scientists are willing to admit.  The mathematical odds (by my math, of course) says that WE shouldn&#039;t be here, yet we are here in the face of it, in PLENTY.  Not only does life exist on Earth, but we even have a most thriving and deeply complex ECOSYSTEM.  It&#039;s absolutely amazing.

I say, what if the &quot;life&quot; of the universe put us here, as an extrinsic instance of self-similarity to itself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t laugh at all, Scott.  In fact, I marvel at the universe when I consider that it functions with a &#8220;logicworks&#8221; that can scarcely be called &#8220;dead&#8221; or &#8220;nonliving.&#8221;  The universe is almost sentient.  It&#8217;s a quantum computer that keeps with the necessary decisions to house the existence of all cosmic existences.  Why do atoms exist at the necessary mass and internal speeds to exist at all?  All in the universe is essentially made of many orders of &#8220;motion,&#8221; but what motivates all motion, and all so together on so many levels?   I think there&#8217;s a rational explanation for it.  I think it begins by considering our definition of &#8220;life.&#8221;  What in the universe says that &#8220;life&#8221; is necessarily exclusive to &#8220;organic biological life&#8221;?</p>
<p>But at the same time, this article is exclusively talking about &#8220;organic biological life.&#8221;  I agree that this &#8220;life&#8221; prevails upon and beneath the earth in a wide variety of forms.  However, I think this only exists WITH Earth.  We have not found a single microscope on Mars, and I bet all the money in the world that we won&#8217;t.  Mars was somewhat similar to Earth, but that does not necessarily mean it harnessed life like Earth.  Such a crude assumption is actually more fantastic than most scientists are willing to admit.  The mathematical odds (by my math, of course) says that WE shouldn&#8217;t be here, yet we are here in the face of it, in PLENTY.  Not only does life exist on Earth, but we even have a most thriving and deeply complex ECOSYSTEM.  It&#8217;s absolutely amazing.</p>
<p>I say, what if the &#8220;life&#8221; of the universe put us here, as an extrinsic instance of self-similarity to itself?</p>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 02:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe all the plasma, or even the subatomic particles, (strings even), etc, is in itself...life...the whole universe could some life form, maybe not how we are conditioned or able to understand it.  Laugh, whatever you like, but you dont reall know.  Same with religious freaks..and even die hard athiests...both are unable to prove anything, they just have their opinions and beliefs, neither can really prove what is really going on behind the scenes.

Anyway, I dont care if some weird archae bacteria can live on/in a vent or ice crack or pool on some moon.  I am sure there are all kinds of weird things out there...but we are spending billions to find these things while so many other creatures and the ecosystem that supports them are being destroyed on our planet.  I am all for spending billions to save forests and bats and weird creatures in Madagascar as opposed to finding some bug on Europa living under a mile of ice.  What good is that going to do us?  It seems we are so obsessed with finding life to prove we are not alone while we are allowing so much bizarre and crazy life to die around us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe all the plasma, or even the subatomic particles, (strings even), etc, is in itself&#8230;life&#8230;the whole universe could some life form, maybe not how we are conditioned or able to understand it.  Laugh, whatever you like, but you dont reall know.  Same with religious freaks..and even die hard athiests&#8230;both are unable to prove anything, they just have their opinions and beliefs, neither can really prove what is really going on behind the scenes.</p>
<p>Anyway, I dont care if some weird archae bacteria can live on/in a vent or ice crack or pool on some moon.  I am sure there are all kinds of weird things out there&#8230;but we are spending billions to find these things while so many other creatures and the ecosystem that supports them are being destroyed on our planet.  I am all for spending billions to save forests and bats and weird creatures in Madagascar as opposed to finding some bug on Europa living under a mile of ice.  What good is that going to do us?  It seems we are so obsessed with finding life to prove we are not alone while we are allowing so much bizarre and crazy life to die around us.</p>
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		<title>By: Chip Shastid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chip Shastid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 23:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you look at life as a series of evolving patterns imposed on matter following statistical laws of chance and the success of these patterns in remaining organised, I find no reason why plasma based life could  not exist.  I do not postulate the form of the pattern ,but it seems no stranger than what we have found already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look at life as a series of evolving patterns imposed on matter following statistical laws of chance and the success of these patterns in remaining organised, I find no reason why plasma based life could  not exist.  I do not postulate the form of the pattern ,but it seems no stranger than what we have found already.</p>
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		<title>By: cedric</title>
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		<dc:creator>cedric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 19:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhm, even our own sun creates elements...its just one big hydrogen reactor that produces helium! But the molecules required to sustain life as we know it degrade at around 350C so organically based life thriving on stars is out of the question...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhm, even our own sun creates elements&#8230;its just one big hydrogen reactor that produces helium! But the molecules required to sustain life as we know it degrade at around 350C so organically based life thriving on stars is out of the question&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Oli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick, stars are so hot that even molecules cannot form inside them. If life inside a star is ever found, I&#039;ll eat my shoes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick, stars are so hot that even molecules cannot form inside them. If life inside a star is ever found, I&#8217;ll eat my shoes.</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 23:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We will come to discover that life, as we know it, is but the barest tip of the sliver of possibilities out there. We just haven&#039;t discovered it yet. Hundreds of billions of galaxies, hundreds of billions or trillions of stars per galaxy, multiplicitous planets around almost every star we check. At this point, I would only be shocked if we found life, in, say, an actual star - and why shouldn&#039;t plasma be allowed to form life? We don&#039;t have any data on whether or not it could, just our narrow slice of life exploitable to scientific study says not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will come to discover that life, as we know it, is but the barest tip of the sliver of possibilities out there. We just haven&#8217;t discovered it yet. Hundreds of billions of galaxies, hundreds of billions or trillions of stars per galaxy, multiplicitous planets around almost every star we check. At this point, I would only be shocked if we found life, in, say, an actual star &#8211; and why shouldn&#8217;t plasma be allowed to form life? We don&#8217;t have any data on whether or not it could, just our narrow slice of life exploitable to scientific study says not.</p>
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