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	<title>Comments on: WikiLeaks Science: DNA Collection, Climate Talks, &amp; China&#8217;s Google Hack</title>
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		<title>By: rabidmob</title>
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		<dc:creator>rabidmob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2010 01:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest I don&#039;t really understand the outrage about the diplomats collecting that information. I&#039;m not even sure if there is any regulation about collecting it.

Also it&#039;s good to point out that if our diplomats are doing this, you can be that other nations diplomats are doing it too and probably more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest I don&#8217;t really understand the outrage about the diplomats collecting that information. I&#8217;m not even sure if there is any regulation about collecting it.</p>
<p>Also it&#8217;s good to point out that if our diplomats are doing this, you can be that other nations diplomats are doing it too and probably more.</p>
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		<title>By: Eliza Strickland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eliza Strickland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 17:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Ben: Relax. It was a typo. These things happen. 

-- Eliza, DISCOVER online news editor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ben: Relax. It was a typo. These things happen. </p>
<p>&#8211; Eliza, DISCOVER online news editor</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 13:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And relax—the requests were voluntary.&quot;

Nice use of sarcasm Andrew. 9/10, the best I&#039;ve seen for a while. And I agree, &quot;they&quot; have been caught being dishonest, underhanded and generally untrustworthy, so their attempt to explain it all away would be comical... if only the circumstances were different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And relax—the requests were voluntary.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nice use of sarcasm Andrew. 9/10, the best I&#8217;ve seen for a while. And I agree, &#8220;they&#8221; have been caught being dishonest, underhanded and generally untrustworthy, so their attempt to explain it all away would be comical&#8230; if only the circumstances were different.</p>
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		<title>By: sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 21:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The official said American diplomats were free to ignore the requests and that virtually all do.”

your response to this is to suggest I &#039;relax&#039;?  Pretty poor analysis of US criminal activity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The official said American diplomats were free to ignore the requests and that virtually all do.”</p>
<p>your response to this is to suggest I &#8216;relax&#8217;?  Pretty poor analysis of US criminal activity.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben  Wise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben  Wise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 21:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a minor but nontrivial editorial correction:  the word you wanted for the first sentence of this article is &quot;bacterium&quot; (singular), not &quot;bacteria&quot; (plural) as you wrote.  It&#039;s an all-too-common error among students and even teachers, but really rankles the ear of anyone who&#039;s studied any Latin at all (like saying &quot;I have a dogs named Lassie&quot;).  Whoever wrote (and edited) this article should go down the hall and have a little talk with the person who wrote the EXCELLENT article on those bacteria, linked by the misnomered phrase!!  Note that the headline of that linked article uses the correct term, &quot;Bacterium&quot;.  Why you cannot simply learn by imitation is beyond me.  I expect more literacy from the Discover staff.

Ben Wise (retired - and curmudgeonly - microbiology professor)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a minor but nontrivial editorial correction:  the word you wanted for the first sentence of this article is &#8220;bacterium&#8221; (singular), not &#8220;bacteria&#8221; (plural) as you wrote.  It&#8217;s an all-too-common error among students and even teachers, but really rankles the ear of anyone who&#8217;s studied any Latin at all (like saying &#8220;I have a dogs named Lassie&#8221;).  Whoever wrote (and edited) this article should go down the hall and have a little talk with the person who wrote the EXCELLENT article on those bacteria, linked by the misnomered phrase!!  Note that the headline of that linked article uses the correct term, &#8220;Bacterium&#8221;.  Why you cannot simply learn by imitation is beyond me.  I expect more literacy from the Discover staff.</p>
<p>Ben Wise (retired &#8211; and curmudgeonly &#8211; microbiology professor)</p>
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		<title>By: Hello world</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hello world</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 18:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Wikileaks Julian Assange close links to the Economist controlled Rothschild&quot;

It&#039;s modern day propaganda kids. Unverified information changing the views of the average person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Wikileaks Julian Assange close links to the Economist controlled Rothschild&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s modern day propaganda kids. Unverified information changing the views of the average person.</p>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 15:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an effed up world (because of-) filled with a bunch of petty, ego driven, paranoid hairless primates that put themselves in a much higher state of importance than they really are.  We think things like a stack of paperwork, a box of files, credit ratings from Wal-Mart as something of extreme importance and yet, we could all be killed by a gama ray burst, solar discharge, supervolcano etc at any time.

I think secretly, subconsciously, humans are/feel really small and insignificant and are afraid floating around without certainty in this seemingly endless void and thus create, orchestrate importance and drama on themselves to distract from so many unexplained wonders and terrors.

We are really not much different than the two squirrel clans living on my property who wage war over territory, nuts, fruits...they are always spying, fighting, chasing each other..on the look out with paranoid fever.  The western clan lives in the native brush overtaking my backyard next to some fruit trees....they are always on the lookout and or meeting in the middle, on the driveway, the aggrive eastern clan, who reside in the giant Magnolia tree in the front and who have hide outs than run down the driveway and visciously protect the seed they steal from the bird feeder half way bewteen the two territories.  It is a cold, cold war.  They have leaders, spies, warriors.  Just like us.

I love being on a secluded islands, with close friends and some pot brownies and just tune all that BS out.  Shrimpy North Koreans who think they have something to prove, creepy chinese who secretly want to dominate the world, ugly right wingers who want the planet to pray to Jesus every night before bed, horrible bank execs that control and destroy lives over stacks of papers and files that judge people on the plastic junk they buy....and even PETA people who want to enforce tofu eating laws on everyone.  When you break it down, its just commical.  Just a bunch of animals, each group trying to dominate and control what they can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an effed up world (because of-) filled with a bunch of petty, ego driven, paranoid hairless primates that put themselves in a much higher state of importance than they really are.  We think things like a stack of paperwork, a box of files, credit ratings from Wal-Mart as something of extreme importance and yet, we could all be killed by a gama ray burst, solar discharge, supervolcano etc at any time.</p>
<p>I think secretly, subconsciously, humans are/feel really small and insignificant and are afraid floating around without certainty in this seemingly endless void and thus create, orchestrate importance and drama on themselves to distract from so many unexplained wonders and terrors.</p>
<p>We are really not much different than the two squirrel clans living on my property who wage war over territory, nuts, fruits&#8230;they are always spying, fighting, chasing each other..on the look out with paranoid fever.  The western clan lives in the native brush overtaking my backyard next to some fruit trees&#8230;.they are always on the lookout and or meeting in the middle, on the driveway, the aggrive eastern clan, who reside in the giant Magnolia tree in the front and who have hide outs than run down the driveway and visciously protect the seed they steal from the bird feeder half way bewteen the two territories.  It is a cold, cold war.  They have leaders, spies, warriors.  Just like us.</p>
<p>I love being on a secluded islands, with close friends and some pot brownies and just tune all that BS out.  Shrimpy North Koreans who think they have something to prove, creepy chinese who secretly want to dominate the world, ugly right wingers who want the planet to pray to Jesus every night before bed, horrible bank execs that control and destroy lives over stacks of papers and files that judge people on the plastic junk they buy&#8230;.and even PETA people who want to enforce tofu eating laws on everyone.  When you break it down, its just commical.  Just a bunch of animals, each group trying to dominate and control what they can.</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Bakker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albert Bakker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 15:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It cannot be so that extremists like Lieberman (but moderates neither of course) can order what are apparently his servants at Amazon to execute North Korean like State censorship almost at will and then let it go unanswered.

http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2010/12/02/daniel-ellsberg-says-boycott-amazon/

By the way Nick, shi&#039;ism is not a kinda progressive Islam. If you think this is so, you should perhaps visit Iran, wander a bit outside Tehran and be very, very disappointed. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It cannot be so that extremists like Lieberman (but moderates neither of course) can order what are apparently his servants at Amazon to execute North Korean like State censorship almost at will and then let it go unanswered.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2010/12/02/daniel-ellsberg-says-boycott-amazon/" rel="nofollow">http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2010/12/02/daniel-ellsberg-says-boycott-amazon/</a></p>
<p>By the way Nick, shi&#8217;ism is not a kinda progressive Islam. If you think this is so, you should perhaps visit Iran, wander a bit outside Tehran and be very, very disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 23:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The official said American diplomats were free to ignore the requests and that virtually all do.&quot;

A pretty idea, just wait until the documents showing this is a lie leak. :)

&quot;Speaking of Saudi Arabia, its king was one of many Middle Eastern leaders to privately petitioned the U.S. to do something—anything—to stop Iran from becoming a nuclear power. &quot;

A convenient mask on the age-old Sunni vs. Shiite (Sunni&#039;s believe Shiite&#039;s worship the wrong way. Shia is kinda like a progressive Islam.) violence. But trying to get us to do the dirty work, take the blood on our hands.

I guess the DDoS was so bad it was killing the easyDNS through DNS requests? Because they don&#039;t host any actual websites. Or maybe the perpetrator was after them so thoroughly it seeked to knock anything associated with them offline. A good way for a government to get rid of a website, cause a bunch of collateral damage - because no matter whether you agree on their right to free speech (and this could even be a 2nd amendment case too, part of the reason the right to keep and bear arms is to help prevent a tyrannical government from imposing its illict will upon the populace) you have to eat and if your business gets fcked you will dump them like a hot brick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The official said American diplomats were free to ignore the requests and that virtually all do.&#8221;</p>
<p>A pretty idea, just wait until the documents showing this is a lie leak. :)</p>
<p>&#8220;Speaking of Saudi Arabia, its king was one of many Middle Eastern leaders to privately petitioned the U.S. to do something—anything—to stop Iran from becoming a nuclear power. &#8221;</p>
<p>A convenient mask on the age-old Sunni vs. Shiite (Sunni&#8217;s believe Shiite&#8217;s worship the wrong way. Shia is kinda like a progressive Islam.) violence. But trying to get us to do the dirty work, take the blood on our hands.</p>
<p>I guess the DDoS was so bad it was killing the easyDNS through DNS requests? Because they don&#8217;t host any actual websites. Or maybe the perpetrator was after them so thoroughly it seeked to knock anything associated with them offline. A good way for a government to get rid of a website, cause a bunch of collateral damage &#8211; because no matter whether you agree on their right to free speech (and this could even be a 2nd amendment case too, part of the reason the right to keep and bear arms is to help prevent a tyrannical government from imposing its illict will upon the populace) you have to eat and if your business gets fcked you will dump them like a hot brick.</p>
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