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	<title>Comments on: Mad Cow Disease Can Go Airborne? Yes, but Don&#8217;t Panic</title>
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		<title>By: Craig J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 03:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sell it to terrorists...my bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sell it to terrorists&#8230;my bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 03:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian...terrorists for example. Sorry, BAD joke. Sad to say though, but the brains and spines were often being ground up and put back into cows in the form of high protein feeds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian&#8230;terrorists for example. Sorry, BAD joke. Sad to say though, but the brains and spines were often being ground up and put back into cows in the form of high protein feeds.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Too</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/01/14/mad-cow-disease-can-go-airborne-yes-but-dont-panic/comment-page-1/#comment-593122</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 00:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@7. Idlewilde,

It&#039;s my understanding that there&#039;s a use for nearly everything on the cow.  The volumes are so high that it&#039;s irresistable to find markets for the most obscure parts (although it need not be to eat).  If you can sell it, you convert an expense (waste disposal) to revenue.  That kind of logic sells big time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@7. Idlewilde,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s my understanding that there&#8217;s a use for nearly everything on the cow.  The volumes are so high that it&#8217;s irresistable to find markets for the most obscure parts (although it need not be to eat).  If you can sell it, you convert an expense (waste disposal) to revenue.  That kind of logic sells big time.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig J.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/01/14/mad-cow-disease-can-go-airborne-yes-but-dont-panic/comment-page-1/#comment-591779</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 04:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, perhaps someone tells their friend who tells their friend who tells someone who works in the Department of Homeland Security who then considers how to counter a potential threat. Information and ideas can niether hurt nor help without someone acting upon them.

Idlewild has a point. Look how hard it was for anthrax to actually KILL anybody during the scares of the early 2000&#039;s. The scare itself was more damaging than the spores. This was MY point made. Terrorists, by definition, already know how to maximize terror, no matter the &quot;weapon&quot; of attack.

Note: given my job I am, in a roundabout way, paid to think up worst case scenarios to
mitigate their effects if and when they happen. One of my personal fears is I will think of
 something, never express my concern, and see it come to fruition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, perhaps someone tells their friend who tells their friend who tells someone who works in the Department of Homeland Security who then considers how to counter a potential threat. Information and ideas can niether hurt nor help without someone acting upon them.</p>
<p>Idlewild has a point. Look how hard it was for anthrax to actually KILL anybody during the scares of the early 2000&#8242;s. The scare itself was more damaging than the spores. This was MY point made. Terrorists, by definition, already know how to maximize terror, no matter the &#8220;weapon&#8221; of attack.</p>
<p>Note: given my job I am, in a roundabout way, paid to think up worst case scenarios to<br />
mitigate their effects if and when they happen. One of my personal fears is I will think of<br />
 something, never express my concern, and see it come to fruition.</p>
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		<title>By: Idlewilde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Idlewilde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 03:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Irresponsible:

Don&#039;t worry, it&#039;s kind of difficult to find and puree`  enough diseased brain to fill an aerosol can anyway.  Not to mention aerosol cans are difficult to fill at home, considering they&#039;re welded shut and all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irresponsible:</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry, it&#8217;s kind of difficult to find and puree`  enough diseased brain to fill an aerosol can anyway.  Not to mention aerosol cans are difficult to fill at home, considering they&#8217;re welded shut and all.</p>
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		<title>By: Idlewilde</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/01/14/mad-cow-disease-can-go-airborne-yes-but-dont-panic/comment-page-1/#comment-591725</link>
		<dc:creator>Idlewilde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 03:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;&#039;slaughterhouse workers who remove brains or spinal chords with bone saws&#039;&#039;

Why do they remove the brain and spinal cord? Does someone like to eat that stuff? I know calf brains are eaten, but calf spinal cords?

 &#039;&#039;Prion labs are not required to use safety equipment that protects workers from aerosols&#039;&#039;

Yes, but are workers required to come to work without a basic dust mask?  This is an avoidable danger, even in hazardous workplaces. As for the slaughterhouse workers, give them facemaks and goggles, and have them shower or at least wash their hands after work. Make sure they wear clean uniforms every day. This isn&#039;t a lot of danger if you have knowledge of basic hygiene. Hell, even without the danger of mad cow disease, you&#039;d think a man sawing into flesh would already be wearing some kind of face protection.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;slaughterhouse workers who remove brains or spinal chords with bone saws&#8221;</p>
<p>Why do they remove the brain and spinal cord? Does someone like to eat that stuff? I know calf brains are eaten, but calf spinal cords?</p>
<p> &#8221;Prion labs are not required to use safety equipment that protects workers from aerosols&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, but are workers required to come to work without a basic dust mask?  This is an avoidable danger, even in hazardous workplaces. As for the slaughterhouse workers, give them facemaks and goggles, and have them shower or at least wash their hands after work. Make sure they wear clean uniforms every day. This isn&#8217;t a lot of danger if you have knowledge of basic hygiene. Hell, even without the danger of mad cow disease, you&#8217;d think a man sawing into flesh would already be wearing some kind of face protection&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Irresponsible</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irresponsible</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a proponent of free speech but don&#039;t you think it&#039;s just a little bit irresponsible to put out the idea of using it as a weapon? I&#039;m sure if you thought of it, it seems obvious, but those of us who don&#039;t spend our time fretting about mostly imaginary terrorist threats are unlikely to make the connection, until you did. Now there&#039;s all the more chance someone will repeat it to a friend, who will tell a friend, who will tell some lunatic who will do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a proponent of free speech but don&#8217;t you think it&#8217;s just a little bit irresponsible to put out the idea of using it as a weapon? I&#8217;m sure if you thought of it, it seems obvious, but those of us who don&#8217;t spend our time fretting about mostly imaginary terrorist threats are unlikely to make the connection, until you did. Now there&#8217;s all the more chance someone will repeat it to a friend, who will tell a friend, who will tell some lunatic who will do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2011 04:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, as an addition, if 10 martyrs were willing to inhale this stuff and die themselves in those targeted areas...as soon as public health depts. confirm deaths as a result of mad cow, every person who went NEAR a target during the time frame of the supposed attack will now crowd every Dr., hospital, urgent care, for miles around wanting care/cure. Being told...go home and wait to see if you die? The healthcare system would be overwhelmed and rioting etc. could ensue from people not satisfied with a wait and see response (which is really the only response available).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, as an addition, if 10 martyrs were willing to inhale this stuff and die themselves in those targeted areas&#8230;as soon as public health depts. confirm deaths as a result of mad cow, every person who went NEAR a target during the time frame of the supposed attack will now crowd every Dr., hospital, urgent care, for miles around wanting care/cure. Being told&#8230;go home and wait to see if you die? The healthcare system would be overwhelmed and rioting etc. could ensue from people not satisfied with a wait and see response (which is really the only response available).</p>
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		<title>By: Craig J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2011 04:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am with wombatarama on this one. There is no cure for &quot;mad cow&quot; disease. Imagine even the huge public health scare of someone claiming they had sprayed this in, say, Mall of America during the Black Friday weekend? With no good way to prove or disprove infection until people start dying, and no way to cure them even if they do...panic, fear, economic repurcussions. Real or not, the pyschological attack alone could be huge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am with wombatarama on this one. There is no cure for &#8220;mad cow&#8221; disease. Imagine even the huge public health scare of someone claiming they had sprayed this in, say, Mall of America during the Black Friday weekend? With no good way to prove or disprove infection until people start dying, and no way to cure them even if they do&#8230;panic, fear, economic repurcussions. Real or not, the pyschological attack alone could be huge.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Too</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 00:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the height of the Mad Cow scare, it became public knowledge that the farming/ranching community had decided that the optimal way to handle infected animals was to &quot;Shoot, Shovel and Shut Up&quot;.  To do otherwise was causing farm quarantines and ongoing damage to the industry.

One wonders how quickly prions degrade in buried cow carcasses.  My understanding was that they were pretty tough.  If prions could survive for several years in soil, that might provide a disease reservoir that could be a risk factor for people living in the area.

It would require disturbance of the cow&#039;s grave but that&#039;s not so improbable.  Especially if the idea was to have an unmarked, low profile burial site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the height of the Mad Cow scare, it became public knowledge that the farming/ranching community had decided that the optimal way to handle infected animals was to &#8220;Shoot, Shovel and Shut Up&#8221;.  To do otherwise was causing farm quarantines and ongoing damage to the industry.</p>
<p>One wonders how quickly prions degrade in buried cow carcasses.  My understanding was that they were pretty tough.  If prions could survive for several years in soil, that might provide a disease reservoir that could be a risk factor for people living in the area.</p>
<p>It would require disturbance of the cow&#8217;s grave but that&#8217;s not so improbable.  Especially if the idea was to have an unmarked, low profile burial site.</p>
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		<title>By: wombatarama</title>
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		<dc:creator>wombatarama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 21:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you sure I shouldn&#039;t panic that they&#039;ve just described a great idea for a biological weapon that no one will even know is happening till months after it is deployed, when it&#039;s much too late to run away?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you sure I shouldn&#8217;t panic that they&#8217;ve just described a great idea for a biological weapon that no one will even know is happening till months after it is deployed, when it&#8217;s much too late to run away?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 21:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would suggest that they confirm the pathway by reinfecting the individuals that are close to death, so that they can examine the olfactory and optic nerves. For all we know, the pathway could be alimentary or pneumonal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would suggest that they confirm the pathway by reinfecting the individuals that are close to death, so that they can examine the olfactory and optic nerves. For all we know, the pathway could be alimentary or pneumonal.</p>
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