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	<title>Comments on: Zap! I Sunk Your Battle Ship&#8230; With a Laser</title>
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		<title>By: Dr. Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2011 06:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The FeL program has been underway since the early 70s by the DARPA/Army.  ONR is behind the power curve in so far as the power requirements for a basic laser weapon system. 

There are two types of FeL, one being cryogenic and the other ambient, the Navy is developing an ambient version.   The minimum 100 kilowatts (kw) of power needed to turn the Free Electron Laser (FeL) beam for destruction may damage a close target of a few 100 meters.  One really needs minimum of 800 kw to effectively engage a medium hard target to have a working laser weapon system.  

It took approximately 37 years to get from 12.8 microns to 14 kw, so meeting 100 kw by 2018 is  somewhat a dream unless there is a &quot;major&quot; break in it&#039;s technology as a laser system.   One really needs approximately 800 kw to deliver or have an effective weapon system for somewhat &quot;hard&quot; targets. 

Just the &quot;tip-of-the-iceberg&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The FeL program has been underway since the early 70s by the DARPA/Army.  ONR is behind the power curve in so far as the power requirements for a basic laser weapon system. </p>
<p>There are two types of FeL, one being cryogenic and the other ambient, the Navy is developing an ambient version.   The minimum 100 kilowatts (kw) of power needed to turn the Free Electron Laser (FeL) beam for destruction may damage a close target of a few 100 meters.  One really needs minimum of 800 kw to effectively engage a medium hard target to have a working laser weapon system.  </p>
<p>It took approximately 37 years to get from 12.8 microns to 14 kw, so meeting 100 kw by 2018 is  somewhat a dream unless there is a &#8220;major&#8221; break in it&#8217;s technology as a laser system.   One really needs approximately 800 kw to deliver or have an effective weapon system for somewhat &#8220;hard&#8221; targets. </p>
<p>Just the &#8220;tip-of-the-iceberg&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Zed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Zed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations on being the 112th mainstream blog outlet to faithfully regurgitate this latest military industrial complex PR blurb. Those whacky boffins just never tire of deaming up new mega-weapons do they ? (oh, using your money by the way.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations on being the 112th mainstream blog outlet to faithfully regurgitate this latest military industrial complex PR blurb. Those whacky boffins just never tire of deaming up new mega-weapons do they ? (oh, using your money by the way.)</p>
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		<title>By: JMW</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about floating a balloon over the ship dangling a convex reflector.  Bounce the laser off the reflector and to a target over the horizon...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about floating a balloon over the ship dangling a convex reflector.  Bounce the laser off the reflector and to a target over the horizon&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cyber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cyber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 23:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How long before the Chinese steal this technology?  Since we are developing the laser with money borrowed from China, it might make more sense to develop and fund it jointly so we don&#039;t have to pay them back, and they don&#039;t have to steal it...or is that too transparent?

I&#039;m curious as to how this would be implemented as far as ship-to-ship targeting, given curvature of the Earth, straightness of laser beams, and line-of-sight/proximity requirements.  Wouldn&#039;t the laser need to be air-based?  Also,  the Illustration shows a close-in laser battle which doesn&#039;t seem likely given the long range of missile options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long before the Chinese steal this technology?  Since we are developing the laser with money borrowed from China, it might make more sense to develop and fund it jointly so we don&#8217;t have to pay them back, and they don&#8217;t have to steal it&#8230;or is that too transparent?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious as to how this would be implemented as far as ship-to-ship targeting, given curvature of the Earth, straightness of laser beams, and line-of-sight/proximity requirements.  Wouldn&#8217;t the laser need to be air-based?  Also,  the Illustration shows a close-in laser battle which doesn&#8217;t seem likely given the long range of missile options.</p>
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		<title>By: Palpatine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palpatine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next step: Deathstar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next step: Deathstar.</p>
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		<title>By: roflmao</title>
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		<dc:creator>roflmao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 17:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A powerful combination indeed, marketing daftness + military daftness = outstandingly asinine PR performance!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A powerful combination indeed, marketing daftness + military daftness = outstandingly asinine PR performance!</p>
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		<title>By: Georg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Georg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 17:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This ships design reminds me of 
&quot;Monitor&quot; and &quot;Virginia&quot; from civil war times. 
But this:
&quot;...scientists use an injector to charge electrons,...&quot; 
is of course utter nonsense. 
Georg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This ships design reminds me of<br />
&#8220;Monitor&#8221; and &#8220;Virginia&#8221; from civil war times.<br />
But this:<br />
&#8220;&#8230;scientists use an injector to charge electrons,&#8230;&#8221;<br />
is of course utter nonsense.<br />
Georg</p>
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