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	<title>Comments on: How the Stuxnet Worm Formed Its Attacks—and Who Might Have It Now</title>
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		<title>By: Dennis Fistler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis Fistler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 02:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi people, this might not be the best place to ask this, but  I need to find a skilled  electrician in Tucson and I don&#039;t know  who is good and who isn&#039;t... I have heard this local electrician is good.  They&#039;re based out of  located in  Tucson, not too far from  my place  I can&#039;t find many reviews on them -- Holy Ground Electric, 9420 E Golf Links Rd #252, Tucson, AZ 85730, (520) 971-6710</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi people, this might not be the best place to ask this, but  I need to find a skilled  electrician in Tucson and I don&#8217;t know  who is good and who isn&#8217;t&#8230; I have heard this local electrician is good.  They&#8217;re based out of  located in  Tucson, not too far from  my place  I can&#8217;t find many reviews on them &#8212; Holy Ground Electric, 9420 E Golf Links Rd #252, Tucson, AZ 85730, (520) 971-6710</p>
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		<title>By: Hulk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hulk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 09:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, detailed as in more deep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, detailed as in more deep.</p>
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		<title>By: Hurry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hurry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This information will be useful to a greater extent. I am sure it gives some more idea on the feel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This information will be useful to a greater extent. I am sure it gives some more idea on the feel.</p>
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		<title>By: Musouka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Musouka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 06:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ TerryS

http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=10596</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ TerryS</p>
<p><a href="http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=10596" rel="nofollow">http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=10596</a></p>
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		<title>By: Barry Johnstone.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Johnstone.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 22:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t WHAT way one turns it, it always comes back to religion. That&#039;s what really effs things up for EVERYBODY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t WHAT way one turns it, it always comes back to religion. That&#8217;s what really effs things up for EVERYBODY!</p>
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		<title>By: Ayatollah Ali Khamenei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ayatollah Ali Khamenei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YES I MAD BLARRGHRRBLLYYAAHHHH!!!!11</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES I MAD BLARRGHRRBLLYYAAHHHH!!!!11</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a much more compelling story behind the Anonymous vs. HBGary hacking debacle. Is Discover covering it?

Briefly, Anonymous leaked all of HBGary Federal&#039;s emails, and journalists started to pour through them. They discovered -- by chance -- corporate plots to attack and destroy Wikileaks, journalists such as Glenn Greenwald, ThinkProgress, unions and others.

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/02/15/palantir/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a much more compelling story behind the Anonymous vs. HBGary hacking debacle. Is Discover covering it?</p>
<p>Briefly, Anonymous leaked all of HBGary Federal&#8217;s emails, and journalists started to pour through them. They discovered &#8212; by chance &#8212; corporate plots to attack and destroy Wikileaks, journalists such as Glenn Greenwald, ThinkProgress, unions and others.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/02/15/palantir/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/02/15/palantir/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Iain

You are severely mistaken in your assumptions.  Iran does not have nearly enough oil refineries to meet half of its countries gasoline and fuel demands.  Iran has to sell it&#039;s oil on the market and then buy back the refined gasoline and fuel oils.  It then uses those fuel oils as part of it&#039;s electrical grid.  It makes tremendous sense to get off oil as soon as they can and get onto nuclear from an economic perspective.

From a nation state perspective, Iran would be extremely naive not to develop nuclear weapons as soon as it can.  Its the major Shia led nation in the Arab world.  There is Iraq but that is still under US control for now.  There already is one Sunni nation with nukes, Pakistan and then there is Israel as well with Nukes.  Now look at the sanctions placed on Iran as well.  Now look at what happened to Iraq, a country with Oil and no WMD&#039;s.  As oil gets more scarce and your country happens to not get along with the US, I do not blame Iran working on nuclear weapons.  Lastly, Shia and Sunni they don&#039;t mix, think of the South vs the North in the US civil war except make it about 100x&#039;s worse in the hate and both sides have legitimate disagreements in their own faiths logical reasoning.  An infidel is one thing (US) however a heretic (someone who doesn&#039;t believe exactly what the beards tell them to believe) is someone who has to be exterminated to keep the faith pure.

I am an American citizen and if the tables were turned, and the US was in Iran&#039;s position, I&#039;d be highly advocating the US develop nuclear weapons to protect us from Sharia law and nation change to an Islam theocracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Iain</p>
<p>You are severely mistaken in your assumptions.  Iran does not have nearly enough oil refineries to meet half of its countries gasoline and fuel demands.  Iran has to sell it&#8217;s oil on the market and then buy back the refined gasoline and fuel oils.  It then uses those fuel oils as part of it&#8217;s electrical grid.  It makes tremendous sense to get off oil as soon as they can and get onto nuclear from an economic perspective.</p>
<p>From a nation state perspective, Iran would be extremely naive not to develop nuclear weapons as soon as it can.  Its the major Shia led nation in the Arab world.  There is Iraq but that is still under US control for now.  There already is one Sunni nation with nukes, Pakistan and then there is Israel as well with Nukes.  Now look at the sanctions placed on Iran as well.  Now look at what happened to Iraq, a country with Oil and no WMD&#8217;s.  As oil gets more scarce and your country happens to not get along with the US, I do not blame Iran working on nuclear weapons.  Lastly, Shia and Sunni they don&#8217;t mix, think of the South vs the North in the US civil war except make it about 100x&#8217;s worse in the hate and both sides have legitimate disagreements in their own faiths logical reasoning.  An infidel is one thing (US) however a heretic (someone who doesn&#8217;t believe exactly what the beards tell them to believe) is someone who has to be exterminated to keep the faith pure.</p>
<p>I am an American citizen and if the tables were turned, and the US was in Iran&#8217;s position, I&#8217;d be highly advocating the US develop nuclear weapons to protect us from Sharia law and nation change to an Islam theocracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>U mad?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>U mad?</p>
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		<title>By: TerryS.</title>
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		<dc:creator>TerryS.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 13:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry...my previous post was to Nick. Where I got Brad I have no idea. Must be too early in the morning...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry&#8230;my previous post was to Nick. Where I got Brad I have no idea. Must be too early in the morning&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TerryS.</title>
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		<dc:creator>TerryS.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 13:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad: I have used disassemblers since the 80&#039;s to understand and modify code delivered only in executable form. While Symantek, Kaspersky, et al might not have access to, as you say, nuclear centrifuges (in actuality the virus is written for the Siemens Supervisory Control And Data Acquisition PLC&#039;s, not the equipment it controls), I&#039;m sure Siemens has been working closely with one or more of these companies to figure this out, as the virus also has a substantial Windows component. I understand that these AV companies might not understand the PLC section of the code, but Siemens sure does.

The Guardian article also mentions that Anonymous has a decompiled version of the virus &quot;rather than the original source code&quot;. Of course they don&#039;t have the original source code.

Maybe it&#039;s just that no one can read assembly language any more :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad: I have used disassemblers since the 80&#8242;s to understand and modify code delivered only in executable form. While Symantek, Kaspersky, et al might not have access to, as you say, nuclear centrifuges (in actuality the virus is written for the Siemens Supervisory Control And Data Acquisition PLC&#8217;s, not the equipment it controls), I&#8217;m sure Siemens has been working closely with one or more of these companies to figure this out, as the virus also has a substantial Windows component. I understand that these AV companies might not understand the PLC section of the code, but Siemens sure does.</p>
<p>The Guardian article also mentions that Anonymous has a decompiled version of the virus &#8220;rather than the original source code&#8221;. Of course they don&#8217;t have the original source code.</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s just that no one can read assembly language any more :-)</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 04:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TerryS: the code Symantec et al. have been studying is the decompiled binary code. If you know anything about programming, you&#039;ll know that reverse engineering decompiled binaries is very very tough to do - moreso when you don&#039;t have access to or much knowledge about the type of equipment that binary is supposed to be running on. Pretty sure anti-virus companies don&#039;t have nuclear centrifuges lying around to test out the code on... 

pretty sure, anyway...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TerryS: the code Symantec et al. have been studying is the decompiled binary code. If you know anything about programming, you&#8217;ll know that reverse engineering decompiled binaries is very very tough to do &#8211; moreso when you don&#8217;t have access to or much knowledge about the type of equipment that binary is supposed to be running on. Pretty sure anti-virus companies don&#8217;t have nuclear centrifuges lying around to test out the code on&#8230; </p>
<p>pretty sure, anyway&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Iain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 02:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Esther you are so naive it hurts.
Iran has enough oil to generate a few hundred million megawatts forever. Yet they want to develop nuclear power to export more oil! BUT nuclear power costs more than fossil fuel power.
Maybe you should have a good dump and clear your brain!

PS How many terror orginizations has Iran funded over the years?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Esther you are so naive it hurts.<br />
Iran has enough oil to generate a few hundred million megawatts forever. Yet they want to develop nuclear power to export more oil! BUT nuclear power costs more than fossil fuel power.<br />
Maybe you should have a good dump and clear your brain!</p>
<p>PS How many terror orginizations has Iran funded over the years?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 21:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TerryS is right... We don&#039;t need to worry about stuxnet and what people will do with it. We should be worrying about the author(s) and others like them who have written other well targeted viruses. Consider stuxnet a Sputnik moment. What comes after it will not be as sloppy as stuxnet and may in fact already be in the wild with stuxnet as the cover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TerryS is right&#8230; We don&#8217;t need to worry about stuxnet and what people will do with it. We should be worrying about the author(s) and others like them who have written other well targeted viruses. Consider stuxnet a Sputnik moment. What comes after it will not be as sloppy as stuxnet and may in fact already be in the wild with stuxnet as the cover.</p>
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		<title>By: Esther Haman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Esther Haman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 21:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we could use such things as Stuxnet  then we could permanently stop the Russia, China and any other nation from operating their nuclear facilities.  Now why people are trying to promote this fictitious idea that this tool &quot; Stuxnet&quot; is used and working in Iran?!  This is just another Zionist propaganda and feel good jargon that is spreading Mis-information about Iran and her nuclear program.  Total B.S.

Get Real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we could use such things as Stuxnet  then we could permanently stop the Russia, China and any other nation from operating their nuclear facilities.  Now why people are trying to promote this fictitious idea that this tool &#8221; Stuxnet&#8221; is used and working in Iran?!  This is just another Zionist propaganda and feel good jargon that is spreading Mis-information about Iran and her nuclear program.  Total B.S.</p>
<p>Get Real.</p>
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		<title>By: TerryS.</title>
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		<dc:creator>TerryS.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 21:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon, haven&#039;t we run this &quot;news&quot; into the ground. I&#039;m so sick of hearing statements such as &quot;only a nation state would have the capabilities to produce it&quot; and &quot;the entirety of the Stuxnet code has not yet been understood.&quot; Security experts like Symantec and Kaspersky (and Siemens) have had at least six months to figure this out. Is it written in some unknown language or use some until-now unknown technology. Of course not! It&#039;s just journalistic hype.

The Guardian article this blog references has sensational statements such as &quot;reportedly developed as a joint Israeli-US cyber attack&quot;  and &quot;The worm, reportedly tested at Israel&#039;s nuclear development centre at Dimona...&quot; Huh? Reportedly? Reportedly from where? Oh, they&#039;re not facts, just sensational jornalism.

Enough!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon, haven&#8217;t we run this &#8220;news&#8221; into the ground. I&#8217;m so sick of hearing statements such as &#8220;only a nation state would have the capabilities to produce it&#8221; and &#8220;the entirety of the Stuxnet code has not yet been understood.&#8221; Security experts like Symantec and Kaspersky (and Siemens) have had at least six months to figure this out. Is it written in some unknown language or use some until-now unknown technology. Of course not! It&#8217;s just journalistic hype.</p>
<p>The Guardian article this blog references has sensational statements such as &#8220;reportedly developed as a joint Israeli-US cyber attack&#8221;  and &#8220;The worm, reportedly tested at Israel&#8217;s nuclear development centre at Dimona&#8230;&#8221; Huh? Reportedly? Reportedly from where? Oh, they&#8217;re not facts, just sensational jornalism.</p>
<p>Enough!</p>
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