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	<title>Comments on: Two New Elements Join the Periodic Table</title>
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		<title>By: Uncle B</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/06/04/two-new-elements-join-the-periodic-table/comment-page-1/#comment-1566472</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 18:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do these new elements help us understand why, the Chinese economy, driven with energy from Thorium fueled reactors, both existing CANDU and newer LFTR types, is going to pass the Amerixan economy in the next few years? Do they help us understand &quot;unemployables&quot; in America? Do they help us see our way beyond the 1950&#039;s &quot;American Dream&quot; to a sustainable survival? 
Granted, Theoretical Physics is an important field, but Americans are suffering today. We still build 1950&#039;s styled &quot;bomb factory&quot; reactors, we still use low compression, least efficient Gasoline engines, not even graduationf to Euro-diesels, and far behind in electric vehicle development - even China has a BYD, electric bus - electric bullet trains, and little Norway has anaerobic sewage digestion for methane gas used to power public bus service? 
Pleas! Scientists! Help us now, while even our progeny go without fair and decent medical care due to our unemployment! Seems a crule form of population winnowing, a genocidal cleansing of all who cannot find work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do these new elements help us understand why, the Chinese economy, driven with energy from Thorium fueled reactors, both existing CANDU and newer LFTR types, is going to pass the Amerixan economy in the next few years? Do they help us understand &#8220;unemployables&#8221; in America? Do they help us see our way beyond the 1950&#8242;s &#8220;American Dream&#8221; to a sustainable survival?<br />
Granted, Theoretical Physics is an important field, but Americans are suffering today. We still build 1950&#8242;s styled &#8220;bomb factory&#8221; reactors, we still use low compression, least efficient Gasoline engines, not even graduationf to Euro-diesels, and far behind in electric vehicle development &#8211; even China has a BYD, electric bus &#8211; electric bullet trains, and little Norway has anaerobic sewage digestion for methane gas used to power public bus service?<br />
Pleas! Scientists! Help us now, while even our progeny go without fair and decent medical care due to our unemployment! Seems a crule form of population winnowing, a genocidal cleansing of all who cannot find work?</p>
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		<title>By: harshj</title>
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		<dc:creator>harshj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 12:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mwough</description>
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		<title>By: Physics</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/06/04/two-new-elements-join-the-periodic-table/comment-page-1/#comment-1109001</link>
		<dc:creator>Physics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 01:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Phillip E


Quote: These elements are not psuedo, and in fact have potential beyond any existing/experimented element. Because of there already short life span and natural radioactive unstable-ness, they have an energy potential greater than Uranium. If these elements could be more sustainable then fission could be possible. 

Even if we could make these elements stable fission would be useless.  Because you had to put excess energy in to create this atom any energy you would receive from fission would just be a return of your original energy minus inefficiency loss.  You would lose energy.  

It is true that if all elements that can exist did naturally (right after the big bang) and then decayed the island of stability would be a myth, but you presented no evidence that they did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Phillip E</p>
<p>Quote: These elements are not psuedo, and in fact have potential beyond any existing/experimented element. Because of there already short life span and natural radioactive unstable-ness, they have an energy potential greater than Uranium. If these elements could be more sustainable then fission could be possible. </p>
<p>Even if we could make these elements stable fission would be useless.  Because you had to put excess energy in to create this atom any energy you would receive from fission would just be a return of your original energy minus inefficiency loss.  You would lose energy.  </p>
<p>It is true that if all elements that can exist did naturally (right after the big bang) and then decayed the island of stability would be a myth, but you presented no evidence that they did.</p>
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		<title>By: harshj</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/06/04/two-new-elements-join-the-periodic-table/comment-page-1/#comment-1107039</link>
		<dc:creator>harshj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 12:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i mean saarcium. ni dat to me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i mean saarcium. ni dat to me!</p>
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		<title>By: harshj</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/06/04/two-new-elements-join-the-periodic-table/comment-page-1/#comment-1097610</link>
		<dc:creator>harshj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 21:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what about saarium?
 or pwoughium?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what about saarium?<br />
 or pwoughium?</p>
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		<title>By: Mish</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/06/04/two-new-elements-join-the-periodic-table/comment-page-1/#comment-1079567</link>
		<dc:creator>Mish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2011 17:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is everyone in here a nuclear physicist? Everyone keeps saying that these aren&#039;t &quot;real&quot; elements, or that it&#039;s not really important if we can&#039;t make flying cars out of them. Science is about learning more about our universe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is everyone in here a nuclear physicist? Everyone keeps saying that these aren&#8217;t &#8220;real&#8221; elements, or that it&#8217;s not really important if we can&#8217;t make flying cars out of them. Science is about learning more about our universe.</p>
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		<title>By: BITORRENT GUy</title>
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		<dc:creator>BITORRENT GUy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 04:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if adamantium will be created soon?</description>
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		<title>By: cknob</title>
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		<dc:creator>cknob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 13:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The table already has a designated category for these short lived &quot;created&quot; elements, the Rare Earth elements Actinide series.  I agree with those defending the utility of reproducing formation of these rarely occurring natural constructs.  Just the technology realized in the pursuit of high energy matter is worth the exercise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The table already has a designated category for these short lived &#8220;created&#8221; elements, the Rare Earth elements Actinide series.  I agree with those defending the utility of reproducing formation of these rarely occurring natural constructs.  Just the technology realized in the pursuit of high energy matter is worth the exercise.</p>
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		<title>By: People</title>
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		<dc:creator>People</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 19:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indigent
–adjective
1. lacking food, clothing, and other necessities of life because of poverty; needy; poor; impoverished.

Huh?
Thanks for clearing everything up, @Templar7.
We live in your shadow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indigent<br />
–adjective<br />
1. lacking food, clothing, and other necessities of life because of poverty; needy; poor; impoverished.</p>
<p>Huh?<br />
Thanks for clearing everything up, @Templar7.<br />
We live in your shadow.</p>
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		<title>By: Templar 7</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/06/04/two-new-elements-join-the-periodic-table/comment-page-1/#comment-1017487</link>
		<dc:creator>Templar 7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 17:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People,  a vast majority are overcomplicating this....probably a by-product of our indigent education system here in America...Every element on the Periodic Table already has one name, and that name exists even for elements not proven to exist. The name comes from the amount of electrons involved in the natural state of the element...Easy stuff...there ain&#039;t even any formulas yet, people!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People,  a vast majority are overcomplicating this&#8230;.probably a by-product of our indigent education system here in America&#8230;Every element on the Periodic Table already has one name, and that name exists even for elements not proven to exist. The name comes from the amount of electrons involved in the natural state of the element&#8230;Easy stuff&#8230;there ain&#8217;t even any formulas yet, people!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: croghan27</title>
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		<dc:creator>croghan27</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 14:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now how long before someone creates ICE-9? (not an element - but that would not matter)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now how long before someone creates ICE-9? (not an element &#8211; but that would not matter)</p>
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		<title>By: eyesoars</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/06/04/two-new-elements-join-the-periodic-table/comment-page-1/#comment-1012378</link>
		<dc:creator>eyesoars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 20:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yes, it is. Whether you admit it or not, it eventually is, otherwise its just an entertaining tidbit. Sort of like how clockwork reached a height in Ancient Greece that was not duplicated until the 17th century or 18th century. The knowledge was lost because no one could make money off of it; the hand crafting made it too labor intensive to replicate cheaply. If people could make money off of it, the knowledge would have been preserved.&quot;

People could have made money off concrete (which the Romans knew about), but nobody saved the recipe in spite of its obvious utility; it was rediscovered in modern times.

About a century ago, a famous mathematician prided himself on working on things with no discernable use.

He turned out to be wrong; it turns out that a large amount of his work turns out to be useful in cryptography.

How is anyone to know what will ultimately be useful (or not)?  Oftentimes knowledge is pursued for its own sake, or because it&#039;s interesting or beautiful.  Maybe this will be useful someday, say perhaps, finding methods for stabilizing radioactive nucleii (for FSM knows what purpose).  But possibly it will never have practical use, beyond demonstrating science&#039;s mastery of complicated particle accelerators and detectors.

So what?  Lots and lots and lots of science has no immediate use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yes, it is. Whether you admit it or not, it eventually is, otherwise its just an entertaining tidbit. Sort of like how clockwork reached a height in Ancient Greece that was not duplicated until the 17th century or 18th century. The knowledge was lost because no one could make money off of it; the hand crafting made it too labor intensive to replicate cheaply. If people could make money off of it, the knowledge would have been preserved.&#8221;</p>
<p>People could have made money off concrete (which the Romans knew about), but nobody saved the recipe in spite of its obvious utility; it was rediscovered in modern times.</p>
<p>About a century ago, a famous mathematician prided himself on working on things with no discernable use.</p>
<p>He turned out to be wrong; it turns out that a large amount of his work turns out to be useful in cryptography.</p>
<p>How is anyone to know what will ultimately be useful (or not)?  Oftentimes knowledge is pursued for its own sake, or because it&#8217;s interesting or beautiful.  Maybe this will be useful someday, say perhaps, finding methods for stabilizing radioactive nucleii (for FSM knows what purpose).  But possibly it will never have practical use, beyond demonstrating science&#8217;s mastery of complicated particle accelerators and detectors.</p>
<p>So what?  Lots and lots and lots of science has no immediate use.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Emberson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Emberson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 17:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>15.   Johnonymous Says:
June 6th, 2011 at 8:20 am
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Not every achievement is measured by its commercial value.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, it is. Whether you admit it or not, it eventually is, otherwise its just an entertaining tidbit.  Sort of like how clockwork reached a height in Ancient Greece that was not duplicated until the 17th century or 18th century. The knowledge was lost because no one could make money off of it; the hand crafting made it too labor intensive to replicate cheaply. If people could make money off of it, the knowledge would have been preserved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>15.   Johnonymous Says:<br />
June 6th, 2011 at 8:20 am</p>
<blockquote><p>
Not every achievement is measured by its commercial value.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, it is. Whether you admit it or not, it eventually is, otherwise its just an entertaining tidbit.  Sort of like how clockwork reached a height in Ancient Greece that was not duplicated until the 17th century or 18th century. The knowledge was lost because no one could make money off of it; the hand crafting made it too labor intensive to replicate cheaply. If people could make money off of it, the knowledge would have been preserved.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno Domingues</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruno Domingues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 13:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are the steps of science.

Commercial applications for them may not even be possible, but having succeeded in creating them in the lab and being able to measure their existence is in itself a mighty reward for the endeavor. It is a step, another step, in our journey of knowledge.

Science is all about the ride, not the destination. Now that we know that these elements can exist, we must account for them in our observations. If they are created here, in our &quot;small&quot; particle accelerators, they are created also in the universe, in the death throes of stars, in the collisions of cosmic rays, maybe even in intergalactic space, the realm of the nucleus and nucleons. Maybe those big stable nucleus are there, waiting for the right observation, to tell them apart for what we now call &quot;noise&quot;.

We know something new and that is always good.

I am told over and over again that lots of money and resources go for science and those could be used in more important areas. Somehow some fail to understand our need for exploration and that the problems of the world have nothing to do with money or resources.

For me, the resources put into science are still not enough. More people need to be involved. We need everyone in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are the steps of science.</p>
<p>Commercial applications for them may not even be possible, but having succeeded in creating them in the lab and being able to measure their existence is in itself a mighty reward for the endeavor. It is a step, another step, in our journey of knowledge.</p>
<p>Science is all about the ride, not the destination. Now that we know that these elements can exist, we must account for them in our observations. If they are created here, in our &#8220;small&#8221; particle accelerators, they are created also in the universe, in the death throes of stars, in the collisions of cosmic rays, maybe even in intergalactic space, the realm of the nucleus and nucleons. Maybe those big stable nucleus are there, waiting for the right observation, to tell them apart for what we now call &#8220;noise&#8221;.</p>
<p>We know something new and that is always good.</p>
<p>I am told over and over again that lots of money and resources go for science and those could be used in more important areas. Somehow some fail to understand our need for exploration and that the problems of the world have nothing to do with money or resources.</p>
<p>For me, the resources put into science are still not enough. More people need to be involved. We need everyone in.</p>
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		<title>By: Declan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Declan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 12:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Their first application will undoubtedly be military. They&#039;ll make nuclear war heads fly straighter and explode more violently...

That&#039;s about the only way any research gets pushed forward anymore these days...if it can be used to kill a lot of people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their first application will undoubtedly be military. They&#8217;ll make nuclear war heads fly straighter and explode more violently&#8230;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s about the only way any research gets pushed forward anymore these days&#8230;if it can be used to kill a lot of people.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 12:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You can’t mill them, drill them, make them into something useful, can you?&quot;

Not every achievement is measured by its commercial value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You can’t mill them, drill them, make them into something useful, can you?&#8221;</p>
<p>Not every achievement is measured by its commercial value.</p>
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		<title>By: pharmacy student</title>
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		<dc:creator>pharmacy student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 07:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will these elements ever have any practical applications?</description>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 05:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote: &lt;i&gt;These two are the latest of what I call “pseudo-elements.” If they only exist just long enough to detect them, what good are they? Are they for real, or just a transitory step on the way to actually becoming something real? You can’t mill them, drill them, make them into something useful, can you?&lt;/i&gt;

Typical short-sighted human.  Just because there are not practical applications of these elements today, does not mean there won&#039;t be extremely important applications in the future.  Perhaps during those crucial fraction of a second, these elements enable technology to perform cold fusion or warp space (artificial gravity, flt travel).  Just because we don&#039;t have immediate applications for knowledge, does not mean we shouldn&#039;t seek it.

Your words remind me of a bit of history.  After discovering the basic principle of electromagnetic induction in 1831, Michael Faraday was asked by a skeptical politician what good might come of electricity. &quot;Sir, I do not know what it is good for,&quot; Faraday replied. &quot;But of one thing I am quite certain -- someday you will tax it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote: <i>These two are the latest of what I call “pseudo-elements.” If they only exist just long enough to detect them, what good are they? Are they for real, or just a transitory step on the way to actually becoming something real? You can’t mill them, drill them, make them into something useful, can you?</i></p>
<p>Typical short-sighted human.  Just because there are not practical applications of these elements today, does not mean there won&#8217;t be extremely important applications in the future.  Perhaps during those crucial fraction of a second, these elements enable technology to perform cold fusion or warp space (artificial gravity, flt travel).  Just because we don&#8217;t have immediate applications for knowledge, does not mean we shouldn&#8217;t seek it.</p>
<p>Your words remind me of a bit of history.  After discovering the basic principle of electromagnetic induction in 1831, Michael Faraday was asked by a skeptical politician what good might come of electricity. &#8220;Sir, I do not know what it is good for,&#8221; Faraday replied. &#8220;But of one thing I am quite certain &#8212; someday you will tax it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 03:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still waiting for them to get to Element 137 (Feynmanium).  Look it up, very interesting.</description>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 03:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Element 115, or Ununpentium, is the one that sci-fi/ufo enthusiasts claim is used to power captured UFO&#039;s at area 51. Supposedly produces artificial gravity when bombarded by neutrons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Element 115, or Ununpentium, is the one that sci-fi/ufo enthusiasts claim is used to power captured UFO&#8217;s at area 51. Supposedly produces artificial gravity when bombarded by neutrons.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phillip E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 02:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone here is questioning the significance of this. The significance is not that elements can be created, because we have known that elements can be created for years (people have been involved in alchemy for last 30-40 years), nor is it that it isn&#039;t &quot;useful&quot; as Jon questioned.

These elements, for one, are not created. They existed, they have always existed in nature. The point for scientists was to recreate them in the lab. No one guessed at 116, it was a known element that escaped scientists grasp until recently, much like the concept of abiogensis escaped biologists even though they knew it had to be true for the theory of evolution to hold strong merit.

The Island of Stability is one of those theories that survives for some reason. It holds absolutely no merit, because for these elements to survive for more than a couple ms would involve conditions much different that obtainable in nature.

These elements are not psuedo, and in fact have potential beyond any existing/experimented element. Because of there already short life span and natural radioactive unstable-ness, they have an energy potential greater than Uranium. If these elements could be more sustainable then fission could be possible.

Unobtainium would be pretty awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone here is questioning the significance of this. The significance is not that elements can be created, because we have known that elements can be created for years (people have been involved in alchemy for last 30-40 years), nor is it that it isn&#8217;t &#8220;useful&#8221; as Jon questioned.</p>
<p>These elements, for one, are not created. They existed, they have always existed in nature. The point for scientists was to recreate them in the lab. No one guessed at 116, it was a known element that escaped scientists grasp until recently, much like the concept of abiogensis escaped biologists even though they knew it had to be true for the theory of evolution to hold strong merit.</p>
<p>The Island of Stability is one of those theories that survives for some reason. It holds absolutely no merit, because for these elements to survive for more than a couple ms would involve conditions much different that obtainable in nature.</p>
<p>These elements are not psuedo, and in fact have potential beyond any existing/experimented element. Because of there already short life span and natural radioactive unstable-ness, they have an energy potential greater than Uranium. If these elements could be more sustainable then fission could be possible.</p>
<p>Unobtainium would be pretty awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/06/04/two-new-elements-join-the-periodic-table/comment-page-1/#comment-1008403</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 18:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still waiting for my Unobtanium! Chop chop people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still waiting for my Unobtanium! Chop chop people!</p>
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		<title>By: RzITex</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/06/04/two-new-elements-join-the-periodic-table/comment-page-1/#comment-1008196</link>
		<dc:creator>RzITex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 17:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While it may only last for a couple of ms(??), probably one of the most important aspect is that it shows the element can be created.  And, because of that, we may have a chance of going higher and getting to the Island of Stability.  They have theories of what combination of proton vs neutrons will live on the island.  If we could create the super heavies that live there, there could be uses, perceptually ones that scientists believe could live for a long time.  Who knows, maybe someday we will get to the point where Jumbonium might exist.  :)
Again, fiction for now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it may only last for a couple of ms(??), probably one of the most important aspect is that it shows the element can be created.  And, because of that, we may have a chance of going higher and getting to the Island of Stability.  They have theories of what combination of proton vs neutrons will live on the island.  If we could create the super heavies that live there, there could be uses, perceptually ones that scientists believe could live for a long time.  Who knows, maybe someday we will get to the point where Jumbonium might exist.  :)<br />
Again, fiction for now</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/06/04/two-new-elements-join-the-periodic-table/comment-page-1/#comment-1007742</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 15:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2.   Jay Fox Says:
June 4th, 2011 at 11:52 am 
&lt;blockquote&gt;Until then, these ghostly things that evaporate as soon as they’re made should be called something else.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In science you can&#039;t just arbitrarily define something as something different because you don&#039;t like it. An element is defined as a pure substance containing one type of atom. Atoms consist of distinct nuclei, often (but not always)with an electron shell. Nothing in there defines the stability as a factor. 

Also, how fleetingly they exist in human terms is not a factor to the universe. Tritium (Hydrogen isotope) has a halflife of 12 years. Radon a halflife of 3 days. On geologic or astronomic timescales, that is just as fleeting as ununhexium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2.   Jay Fox Says:<br />
June 4th, 2011 at 11:52 am </p>
<blockquote><p>Until then, these ghostly things that evaporate as soon as they’re made should be called something else.</p></blockquote>
<p>In science you can&#8217;t just arbitrarily define something as something different because you don&#8217;t like it. An element is defined as a pure substance containing one type of atom. Atoms consist of distinct nuclei, often (but not always)with an electron shell. Nothing in there defines the stability as a factor. </p>
<p>Also, how fleetingly they exist in human terms is not a factor to the universe. Tritium (Hydrogen isotope) has a halflife of 12 years. Radon a halflife of 3 days. On geologic or astronomic timescales, that is just as fleeting as ununhexium.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/06/04/two-new-elements-join-the-periodic-table/comment-page-1/#comment-1005969</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 06:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The elements discovered here may not be of immediate material value but they can tell us a great deal about nuclear physics. Two Pu atoms smashed together are what makes bombs work. Pu and Ca together create an element that creates other exciting byproducts and so-on. it&#039;s not useful right here and now but we can learn huge amounts and we can have better ways of creating &quot;real&quot; elements not to mention the metaphysical implications of elements all the sudden becoming stable. Any discoveries in nuclear chemistry can validate or refute multiple metaphysical theories. I&#039;ll probably get flamed for this but i hope someone has made it this far and will have some patience for science to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The elements discovered here may not be of immediate material value but they can tell us a great deal about nuclear physics. Two Pu atoms smashed together are what makes bombs work. Pu and Ca together create an element that creates other exciting byproducts and so-on. it&#8217;s not useful right here and now but we can learn huge amounts and we can have better ways of creating &#8220;real&#8221; elements not to mention the metaphysical implications of elements all the sudden becoming stable. Any discoveries in nuclear chemistry can validate or refute multiple metaphysical theories. I&#8217;ll probably get flamed for this but i hope someone has made it this far and will have some patience for science to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: janaki</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/06/04/two-new-elements-join-the-periodic-table/comment-page-1/#comment-1005524</link>
		<dc:creator>janaki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 04:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what are those elements</description>
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		<title>By: janaki</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/06/04/two-new-elements-join-the-periodic-table/comment-page-1/#comment-1005517</link>
		<dc:creator>janaki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 04:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what are those elements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what are those elements.</p>
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		<title>By: Tetsuo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/06/04/two-new-elements-join-the-periodic-table/comment-page-1/#comment-1003326</link>
		<dc:creator>Tetsuo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2011 16:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is any of these the elements what Tony Stark created to substitute Palladium in Iron Man 2? :D</description>
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		<title>By: Jay Fox</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/06/04/two-new-elements-join-the-periodic-table/comment-page-1/#comment-1003233</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2011 15:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m confused. These two are the latest of what I call &quot;pseudo-elements.&quot; If they only exist just long enough to detect them, what good are they? Are they for real, or just a transitory step on the way to actually becoming something real? You can&#039;t mill them, drill them, make them into something useful, can you?
There may well be an &quot;island of stability,&quot; and on it we may actually find a new element. Something tangible that we can manipulate. Until then, these ghostly things that evaporate as soon as they&#039;re made should be called something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused. These two are the latest of what I call &#8220;pseudo-elements.&#8221; If they only exist just long enough to detect them, what good are they? Are they for real, or just a transitory step on the way to actually becoming something real? You can&#8217;t mill them, drill them, make them into something useful, can you?<br />
There may well be an &#8220;island of stability,&#8221; and on it we may actually find a new element. Something tangible that we can manipulate. Until then, these ghostly things that evaporate as soon as they&#8217;re made should be called something else.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Deane</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/06/04/two-new-elements-join-the-periodic-table/comment-page-1/#comment-1003003</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Deane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2011 14:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If these have only just been found now, why have they been on every periodic table for the last 10 years?</description>
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