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	<title>Comments on: As Permafrost Melts, Methane-Munching Soil Bacteria Come to Life</title>
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		<title>By: Matt Horns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Horns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 02:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Generally, the people that know the most about climate change are the most concerned, and the people who know the least about climate change are the least concerned.

Meanwhile, more and more people are finally learning that CO2 emissions&#039; greatest damage is not climate change, but ocean acidification, which is simple science and absolutely proven to be real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Generally, the people that know the most about climate change are the most concerned, and the people who know the least about climate change are the least concerned.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, more and more people are finally learning that CO2 emissions&#8217; greatest damage is not climate change, but ocean acidification, which is simple science and absolutely proven to be real.</p>
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		<title>By: Rooeater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rooeater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 02:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time to make everyone (and all their cows!) fart like kangaroos...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time to make everyone (and all their cows!) fart like kangaroos&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: adrienne</title>
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		<dc:creator>adrienne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 00:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Dan,
Please, please, please respond and say you were joking or being ironic with your closing line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Dan,<br />
Please, please, please respond and say you were joking or being ironic with your closing line.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Johnstone.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Johnstone.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 00:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must stop farting. I must stop farting. I must stop farting. I must stop farting. I must stop farting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must stop farting. I must stop farting. I must stop farting. I must stop farting. I must stop farting.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/11/07/as-permafrost-melts-methane-munching-soil-bacteria-come-to-life/comment-page-1/#comment-2440289</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This  is a very interesting article. The fact that a bacterial breakdown of methane can occur rapidly in these conditions might have applications within the Canadian beef production process. If the cycle of methane breakdown in cold conditions can be fully understood/replicated, imagine if a system of cold methane capture could be created (infusing it with frozen soil). The cold stored methane could be thawed in a controlled setting with engineered bacteria! 

Mememine69 - I dont even know where to begin, but spelling and grammer are a good start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This  is a very interesting article. The fact that a bacterial breakdown of methane can occur rapidly in these conditions might have applications within the Canadian beef production process. If the cycle of methane breakdown in cold conditions can be fully understood/replicated, imagine if a system of cold methane capture could be created (infusing it with frozen soil). The cold stored methane could be thawed in a controlled setting with engineered bacteria! </p>
<p>Mememine69 &#8211; I dont even know where to begin, but spelling and grammer are a good start.</p>
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		<title>By: Chrysoprace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chrysoprace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 09:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same response as always to the sockpuppet. Citations please. Oh wait there are none available, presumably due to the giant cover up and conspiracy by scientists who have absolutely no motive to do so. The first credible scientist to find anything to debunk AGW would be swimming in grant money from major corporations. Far more likely that these corporations have in fact funded research in hopes of debunking AGW and had all of them confirm AGW, followed by a quick burial and hard disk format.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same response as always to the sockpuppet. Citations please. Oh wait there are none available, presumably due to the giant cover up and conspiracy by scientists who have absolutely no motive to do so. The first credible scientist to find anything to debunk AGW would be swimming in grant money from major corporations. Far more likely that these corporations have in fact funded research in hopes of debunking AGW and had all of them confirm AGW, followed by a quick burial and hard disk format.</p>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 07:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mememine, You are absolutley right. Carbon emissions taxes haven&#039;t gained momentum in America for three reasons. 1. We are in a recession, and because of this, people and politicians are lending what little attention spans they have towards economic issues. Putting a Carbon emissions tax on corporations and companies at this point in time would only help to slightly sway companies towards outsourcing. 2. Government corruption, lobbyists, corruption, and some more lobbyists. 3. Not enough people are angry enough to find the means to educate themselves and others on the impact of greenhouse gases on our atmosphere. Until now that is, with the recent growing frustration of the lower/fading middle class towards corporations, people are now swayed towards any possible means of taxing the people who spend $30,000 on a F$$%in handbag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mememine, You are absolutley right. Carbon emissions taxes haven&#8217;t gained momentum in America for three reasons. 1. We are in a recession, and because of this, people and politicians are lending what little attention spans they have towards economic issues. Putting a Carbon emissions tax on corporations and companies at this point in time would only help to slightly sway companies towards outsourcing. 2. Government corruption, lobbyists, corruption, and some more lobbyists. 3. Not enough people are angry enough to find the means to educate themselves and others on the impact of greenhouse gases on our atmosphere. Until now that is, with the recent growing frustration of the lower/fading middle class towards corporations, people are now swayed towards any possible means of taxing the people who spend $30,000 on a F$$%in handbag.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 03:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, what Republican or green house gas emitting corporation (as though there were a difference) does mememine69 work for?  If he needs work, I hear M$FT pays people to post bad things about Apple on the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, what Republican or green house gas emitting corporation (as though there were a difference) does mememine69 work for?  If he needs work, I hear M$FT pays people to post bad things about Apple on the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: mememine69</title>
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		<dc:creator>mememine69</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 01:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The deniers have NOT won the battle for climate change
belief, the former believers have. So it seems now that only when these
countless thousands of consensus scientists get off their thrones and start
acting like they are NOT legally exaggerating, nobody is voting to tax the air
with corporate CARBON TRADING MARKETS. Exaggerating isn’t a lie, anymore. Face
it, climate change support is only alive and well in mainscream media and pop culture
now. Obama didn’t even mention the “crisis” in his state of the union address
after 25 years of “catastrophic” warnings from “scientists” and what was the
saintly lab coat consultant’s reaction to being snubbed of their warnings of
crisis………? You can’t have a little catastrophic climate crisis. So unless
remaining believers can get the scientists involved in securing support back,
climate change is doomed for the history books. 


Pollution and the defeat of the smoggy 70’s are real but
death by CO2 is not. Thankfully, (at least to real planet lovers), it was an academic
exaggeration fueled by political correctness and unconscionable news editors. And
we should be happy for that. Not disappointed that a “CO2” crisis wasn’t real.
If these are not good enough reason s for anyone stop supporting the CO2
mistake, history will watch you condemn your own children to the greenhouse gas
chambers with sickening glee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The deniers have NOT won the battle for climate change<br />
belief, the former believers have. So it seems now that only when these<br />
countless thousands of consensus scientists get off their thrones and start<br />
acting like they are NOT legally exaggerating, nobody is voting to tax the air<br />
with corporate CARBON TRADING MARKETS. Exaggerating isn’t a lie, anymore. Face<br />
it, climate change support is only alive and well in mainscream media and pop culture<br />
now. Obama didn’t even mention the “crisis” in his state of the union address<br />
after 25 years of “catastrophic” warnings from “scientists” and what was the<br />
saintly lab coat consultant’s reaction to being snubbed of their warnings of<br />
crisis………? You can’t have a little catastrophic climate crisis. So unless<br />
remaining believers can get the scientists involved in securing support back,<br />
climate change is doomed for the history books. </p>
<p>Pollution and the defeat of the smoggy 70’s are real but<br />
death by CO2 is not. Thankfully, (at least to real planet lovers), it was an academic<br />
exaggeration fueled by political correctness and unconscionable news editors. And<br />
we should be happy for that. Not disappointed that a “CO2” crisis wasn’t real.<br />
If these are not good enough reason s for anyone stop supporting the CO2<br />
mistake, history will watch you condemn your own children to the greenhouse gas<br />
chambers with sickening glee.</p>
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		<title>By: johnq</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;UNLESS you increase the total amount of energy coming in, it will NOT get warmer. It is the energy photon that causes the warming NOT the amount of GHGs.&quot;

Clearly untrue statement.   Measure the daytime air temperature directly above an area of ground.  Then build a  greenhouse on that ground.  Measure the daytime air temperature inside the greenhouse.  

Guess what?  The air temperature will be higher.  No additional photons, no additional energy.

Greenhouses increase the air temperature without any additional photons.  That&#039;s why gardeners use greenhouses.

If you keep input energy the same and slow the re-radiation of energy back out, temperature will increase.  

Someone who thinks temperature can&#039;t increase unless the total amount of input energy is increased shouldn&#039;t be calling other people illogical or stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;UNLESS you increase the total amount of energy coming in, it will NOT get warmer. It is the energy photon that causes the warming NOT the amount of GHGs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Clearly untrue statement.   Measure the daytime air temperature directly above an area of ground.  Then build a  greenhouse on that ground.  Measure the daytime air temperature inside the greenhouse.  </p>
<p>Guess what?  The air temperature will be higher.  No additional photons, no additional energy.</p>
<p>Greenhouses increase the air temperature without any additional photons.  That&#8217;s why gardeners use greenhouses.</p>
<p>If you keep input energy the same and slow the re-radiation of energy back out, temperature will increase.  </p>
<p>Someone who thinks temperature can&#8217;t increase unless the total amount of input energy is increased shouldn&#8217;t be calling other people illogical or stupid.</p>
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