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	<title>Comments on: Panel Finds That Nearly All Invasive Chimp Research is Unnecessary; NIH Agrees</title>
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		<title>By: Geack</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/12/16/panel-finds-that-nearly-all-invasive-chimp-research-is-unnecessary-nih-agrees/#comment-30911</link>
		<dc:creator>Geack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 18:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jezebel,
Looks like some pretty serious spin the other way too - bascially, &quot;They didn&#039;t place an outright ban on all research on chimps. therefore we&#039;re OK&quot;.  It clearly won&#039;t have a huge practical impact right away - the small number of existing studies suggests that chimp research has been self-limited to some extent already - but making it harder to justify using chimps in the future is a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jezebel,<br />
Looks like some pretty serious spin the other way too &#8211; bascially, &#8220;They didn&#8217;t place an outright ban on all research on chimps. therefore we&#8217;re OK&#8221;.  It clearly won&#8217;t have a huge practical impact right away &#8211; the small number of existing studies suggests that chimp research has been self-limited to some extent already &#8211; but making it harder to justify using chimps in the future is a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 23:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It took them way too long to figure this out, but the research is welcomed by me. I understand the need for test animals and I wish there was a way to avoid it completely. Anyone that can inflict pain or suffering on an animal lacks enough empathy to be considered a test subject themselves. Rats, additionally, show signs of empathy, but I doubt they will change up the rules for testing on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It took them way too long to figure this out, but the research is welcomed by me. I understand the need for test animals and I wish there was a way to avoid it completely. Anyone that can inflict pain or suffering on an animal lacks enough empathy to be considered a test subject themselves. Rats, additionally, show signs of empathy, but I doubt they will change up the rules for testing on them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jezebel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jezebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 19:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way to spin the report. There is actually disagreement in the panel itself about the results of the committee findings.

From Science: &quot;Reactions differ widely, in part because it is difficult to sort out how the proposed new restrictions differ from existing ones. .... Most of the new recommendations simply reinforce existing policy, says Preston Marx, a primatologist at the Tulane National Primate Research Center who from 1990 to 1994 managed a chimp colony at the New Mexico Regional Primate Research Laboratory. “It&#039;s largely an endorsement of chimpanzee biomedical and behavioral research with new limits,” says Marx, who now studies monkeys. “The committee sees its value.” Thomas J. Rowell, who heads the New Iberia Research Center at the University of Louisiana, Lafayette—which houses more research chimpanzees than any facility in the world—had a similar reaction. “After a thoughtful and comprehensive review, the committee confirmed the center&#039;s position on the importance and necessity of having continued access to a chimpanzee model to promote public health research,” Rowell said in a prepared response to the report.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to spin the report. There is actually disagreement in the panel itself about the results of the committee findings.</p>
<p>From Science: &#8220;Reactions differ widely, in part because it is difficult to sort out how the proposed new restrictions differ from existing ones. &#8230;. Most of the new recommendations simply reinforce existing policy, says Preston Marx, a primatologist at the Tulane National Primate Research Center who from 1990 to 1994 managed a chimp colony at the New Mexico Regional Primate Research Laboratory. “It&#8217;s largely an endorsement of chimpanzee biomedical and behavioral research with new limits,” says Marx, who now studies monkeys. “The committee sees its value.” Thomas J. Rowell, who heads the New Iberia Research Center at the University of Louisiana, Lafayette—which houses more research chimpanzees than any facility in the world—had a similar reaction. “After a thoughtful and comprehensive review, the committee confirmed the center&#8217;s position on the importance and necessity of having continued access to a chimpanzee model to promote public health research,” Rowell said in a prepared response to the report.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rilwen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rilwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 19:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The recommendation is a reflection of our growing realization that chimps may be capable of self-awareness, empathy, grief, and happiness, and may possess basic morality as well as a culture;&quot; - &quot;may be&quot;, &quot;basic&quot;... whatever, it is still a very good news for our furry brothers and a good sign about us. Empathy, morality, ... -- they were all developed as an evolutionary trait, so there&#039;s no reason for any animal not to have them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The recommendation is a reflection of our growing realization that chimps may be capable of self-awareness, empathy, grief, and happiness, and may possess basic morality as well as a culture;&#8221; &#8211; &#8220;may be&#8221;, &#8220;basic&#8221;&#8230; whatever, it is still a very good news for our furry brothers and a good sign about us. Empathy, morality, &#8230; &#8212; they were all developed as an evolutionary trait, so there&#8217;s no reason for any animal not to have them.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 20:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are closest relative,share 98% of our dna, so why did anyone think chimps could not be capable of the same emotions? we never had a moral right to murder these animals and a more enlightend species would not practise vivisection on any ape or monkey for the same reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are closest relative,share 98% of our dna, so why did anyone think chimps could not be capable of the same emotions? we never had a moral right to murder these animals and a more enlightend species would not practise vivisection on any ape or monkey for the same reason.</p>
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		<title>By: alex fairchild</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex fairchild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 01:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is fantastic news.  These are our brothers and sisters, our fellow hominins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is fantastic news.  These are our brothers and sisters, our fellow hominins.</p>
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