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	<title>Comments on: Would Minutes of Exercise Be a Better Metric Than Calorie Counts?</title>
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		<title>By: Vikram</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vikram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 20:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally though, surely the anorexic should be guided away from overexercise as well by the minutes. Forcing them to exercise in some way that forces moderate intensity... I can&#039;t see how that wouldn&#039;t work, outside of them injuring themselves trying to get to higher intensities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally though, surely the anorexic should be guided away from overexercise as well by the minutes. Forcing them to exercise in some way that forces moderate intensity&#8230; I can&#8217;t see how that wouldn&#8217;t work, outside of them injuring themselves trying to get to higher intensities.</p>
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		<title>By: Vikram</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vikram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 20:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious... if the problem is anorexia, can we instead change the labels to state how many hours of regular, healthy life (or some better worded synonym/phrase) they typically provide? The algorithms we use would be &quot;biased towards foods, and away from food products&quot; as #19 put it. So imagine if you were eating 48 hours of healthy life in 24... you&#039;d feel weird about it at least, sort of zombielike. Plus I think that fits intuitively with the sensation of a serious sugar rush. You could also have multiple healthy-life hour listings (bars plus count format?) for a bunch of different (obviously, trying for non-controversial) demographics. For instance adult women supposedly on average handle fat metabolism better and carb metabolism poorer than adult men.

Though this does seem liable to the &quot;crazies&quot; counterarg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious&#8230; if the problem is anorexia, can we instead change the labels to state how many hours of regular, healthy life (or some better worded synonym/phrase) they typically provide? The algorithms we use would be &#8220;biased towards foods, and away from food products&#8221; as #19 put it. So imagine if you were eating 48 hours of healthy life in 24&#8230; you&#8217;d feel weird about it at least, sort of zombielike. Plus I think that fits intuitively with the sensation of a serious sugar rush. You could also have multiple healthy-life hour listings (bars plus count format?) for a bunch of different (obviously, trying for non-controversial) demographics. For instance adult women supposedly on average handle fat metabolism better and carb metabolism poorer than adult men.</p>
<p>Though this does seem liable to the &#8220;crazies&#8221; counterarg.</p>
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		<title>By: vega</title>
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		<dc:creator>vega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 02:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the one hand, given food[s and food product]s may very well represent different &#039;exercise time&#039; values to different people.
On the other, many food[s and food product]s that do not come prepackaged are permitted by law a margin of error of 20% either way (1000 calories could be 800-1200).
Could they cancel each other out?

I&#039;d also appreciate:
a) exercise times on low-nutrient density food[s and food product]s, but calorie counts on high-nutrient-density foods
b) distinction between low-nutrient-density food[s and food product]s, and high-nutrient-density foods (biased towards foods, and away from food &#039;products&#039;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the one hand, given food[s and food product]s may very well represent different &#8216;exercise time&#8217; values to different people.<br />
On the other, many food[s and food product]s that do not come prepackaged are permitted by law a margin of error of 20% either way (1000 calories could be 800-1200).<br />
Could they cancel each other out?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also appreciate:<br />
a) exercise times on low-nutrient density food[s and food product]s, but calorie counts on high-nutrient-density foods<br />
b) distinction between low-nutrient-density food[s and food product]s, and high-nutrient-density foods (biased towards foods, and away from food &#8216;products&#8217;)</p>
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		<title>By: Bear1951</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bear1951</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 02:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or. People could be educated about the meaning of &quot;calorie&quot; and make their own informed decisions regarding how many to consume without food/beverage manufacturers having to be responsible for how much of their product people consume. Those who make &quot;wrong&quot; decisions - based on the science-of-the-day (remember when coconut oil was bad for you?) - will have to live with the consequences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or. People could be educated about the meaning of &#8220;calorie&#8221; and make their own informed decisions regarding how many to consume without food/beverage manufacturers having to be responsible for how much of their product people consume. Those who make &#8220;wrong&#8221; decisions &#8211; based on the science-of-the-day (remember when coconut oil was bad for you?) &#8211; will have to live with the consequences.</p>
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		<title>By: Ug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 09:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max,
People wanting things to be &quot;handed to them&quot; is never going to change, just because you made a personal choice to pay attention doesn&#039;t mean anyone else will or even should. Your going off the &quot;everyone should be like me&quot; mentallity and that just wont ever happen. So if this is a good way to deal with the obesity problem we have in this country I say go for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max,<br />
People wanting things to be &#8220;handed to them&#8221; is never going to change, just because you made a personal choice to pay attention doesn&#8217;t mean anyone else will or even should. Your going off the &#8220;everyone should be like me&#8221; mentallity and that just wont ever happen. So if this is a good way to deal with the obesity problem we have in this country I say go for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/12/19/would-minutes-of-exercise-be-a-better-metric-than-calorie-counts/#comment-30951</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 00:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this would further the idea engraved in Americans minds, that &quot;calories are bad&quot;. Calories are neccessary regardless if you are excersizing or not. If a food item says &quot;50 minutes of running to burn this off&quot; than according to this idea i shouldnt eat anything if im not going to do some running. In reality im burning calories as i sit in chair writing this.

As an active person i count calories as a way too make sure i have enough energy for an activity and to replace caloric debt. Getting to know your body is how you should monitor your calories. By minimal research and mostly experience i can tell when im eating too many calories(by the belly fat that starts too show up) or too little (feeling fatigued/headaches).

This is just another thing Americans want handed to them, when in reality we should be monitoring these things ourselves.

I think it would be a good idea to simply put the DV% next to the calories. i think that would be useful for how mange your calories without further reenforcing the stigma attached to calories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this would further the idea engraved in Americans minds, that &#8220;calories are bad&#8221;. Calories are neccessary regardless if you are excersizing or not. If a food item says &#8220;50 minutes of running to burn this off&#8221; than according to this idea i shouldnt eat anything if im not going to do some running. In reality im burning calories as i sit in chair writing this.</p>
<p>As an active person i count calories as a way too make sure i have enough energy for an activity and to replace caloric debt. Getting to know your body is how you should monitor your calories. By minimal research and mostly experience i can tell when im eating too many calories(by the belly fat that starts too show up) or too little (feeling fatigued/headaches).</p>
<p>This is just another thing Americans want handed to them, when in reality we should be monitoring these things ourselves.</p>
<p>I think it would be a good idea to simply put the DV% next to the calories. i think that would be useful for how mange your calories without further reenforcing the stigma attached to calories.</p>
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		<title>By: Geack</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/12/19/would-minutes-of-exercise-be-a-better-metric-than-calorie-counts/#comment-30950</link>
		<dc:creator>Geack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 18:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve never had a problem giving people nutrition info based on hypothetical &quot;typicals&quot; - the most obvious being the % Daily Values on all our food.  Giving a typical amount of exercise would work just as well.  And I agree that it would give people a MUCH more useful sense of how much energy they&#039;re taking in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve never had a problem giving people nutrition info based on hypothetical &#8220;typicals&#8221; &#8211; the most obvious being the % Daily Values on all our food.  Giving a typical amount of exercise would work just as well.  And I agree that it would give people a MUCH more useful sense of how much energy they&#8217;re taking in.</p>
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		<title>By: Minnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 17:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It works for me personally. As someone who exercises regularly but hates the pain of it, I often pass on food treats because I know, in general, that it will &quot;cost&quot; me in exercise, and it just isn&#039;t worth it. Exact counts don&#039;t matter, the basic awareness is enough for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It works for me personally. As someone who exercises regularly but hates the pain of it, I often pass on food treats because I know, in general, that it will &#8220;cost&#8221; me in exercise, and it just isn&#8217;t worth it. Exact counts don&#8217;t matter, the basic awareness is enough for me.</p>
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		<title>By: m</title>
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		<dc:creator>m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 01:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be easy to assign a figure that works for everyone, though mostly women are the one who care about it. I would have a picture of a man with a number on its Belly, a woman with a number on its thighs! Then they can visualise where its going as well.

People who have eating disorders like anorexia are completely irrelevant to this, as they are on a doctored monitored, home monitored system that has nothing to do with the general population.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be easy to assign a figure that works for everyone, though mostly women are the one who care about it. I would have a picture of a man with a number on its Belly, a woman with a number on its thighs! Then they can visualise where its going as well.</p>
<p>People who have eating disorders like anorexia are completely irrelevant to this, as they are on a doctored monitored, home monitored system that has nothing to do with the general population.</p>
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		<title>By: floodmouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>floodmouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Labeling foods with the amount of exercise needed to work them off would definitely improve people&#039;s cause-effect thinking.  On the other hand, I&#039;m bothered by the idea that people think exercise is a bad thing, and you shouldn&#039;t eat just because you&#039;ll have to exercise afterward to get the weight off.

The real problem is simply that people in industrialized society&#039;s don&#039;t get enough exercise.  (One hour at the gym is no substitute for eight hours of physical labor.)  Strangely enough, moderate amounts of exercise actually reduce the appetite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Labeling foods with the amount of exercise needed to work them off would definitely improve people&#8217;s cause-effect thinking.  On the other hand, I&#8217;m bothered by the idea that people think exercise is a bad thing, and you shouldn&#8217;t eat just because you&#8217;ll have to exercise afterward to get the weight off.</p>
<p>The real problem is simply that people in industrialized society&#8217;s don&#8217;t get enough exercise.  (One hour at the gym is no substitute for eight hours of physical labor.)  Strangely enough, moderate amounts of exercise actually reduce the appetite.</p>
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