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	<title>Comments on: To Escape Chinese Espionage, You Must Travel &#8220;Electronically Naked&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Sandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shut the eff up &quot;m&quot;, you rambling troll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shut the eff up &#8220;m&#8221;, you rambling troll.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Too</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 00:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This certainly isn&#039;t what I would call traveling “electronically naked”; that would be to travel with no electronics at all.  This is more like electronically sandboxed.

Most people are vulnerable to being compromised, when faced with a skilled and determined attacker.  Perhaps these examples have some extraordinary resources to help them.  However never forget that during the Cold War, each side repeatedly penetrated the other&#039;s veils of secrecy.  The Soviets excelled at human spies and moles, while the U.S. excelled at technology based intrusions.

Not that it&#039;s not worth trying to mount a defense.  More like, never forget that any good defense can be matched with a good offense.  And paranoia, it will destroy ya!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This certainly isn&#8217;t what I would call traveling “electronically naked”; that would be to travel with no electronics at all.  This is more like electronically sandboxed.</p>
<p>Most people are vulnerable to being compromised, when faced with a skilled and determined attacker.  Perhaps these examples have some extraordinary resources to help them.  However never forget that during the Cold War, each side repeatedly penetrated the other&#8217;s veils of secrecy.  The Soviets excelled at human spies and moles, while the U.S. excelled at technology based intrusions.</p>
<p>Not that it&#8217;s not worth trying to mount a defense.  More like, never forget that any good defense can be matched with a good offense.  And paranoia, it will destroy ya!</p>
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		<title>By: m</title>
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		<dc:creator>m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 07:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The great thing about copy and paste is that its unencrypted and the chinese can read it just fine, but thats software for you.

The real crux of the situation they are trying to explain to the lay-person is that China specialises in hardware spying. That keyboard on your desk right now has a small amount of memory in it and is sending its feed without you knowing. Every keystroke you punch is forever going out.

That usb drive and harddrive that says 4GB/1TB but actually only gives you 3.7GB and 900 MB has a little extra space in it for spy software and lots of space for spy hardware.

That USB microphone you just plugged in is recording all your keystokes, and sending them back to base, using sophistcated software that can learn EASILY over time which finger is pushing which key, by the time between keys and which hand and finger it was.

That USB speaker is is really sending behind the scenes anything it hears.

That mouse is micromanaging every click in conjunction with the screen image software hidden in the background.

That phone which goes over the internet is routed very easily to a juntion box then to the internet.

That website you mistyped comes up perfectly as if you had typed it perfectly only its now going through a local server capturing everything and relaying everything.

The web-site you typed in perfectly using copy and paste or favourites is actually being spoofed with a &quot;bogus&quot; DNS entry and relaying everything you do to the real website.

That light you just turned on with the little camera capturing your screen in full HD, what you cant see a camera behind a light....of course not who the hell would look towards a light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The great thing about copy and paste is that its unencrypted and the chinese can read it just fine, but thats software for you.</p>
<p>The real crux of the situation they are trying to explain to the lay-person is that China specialises in hardware spying. That keyboard on your desk right now has a small amount of memory in it and is sending its feed without you knowing. Every keystroke you punch is forever going out.</p>
<p>That usb drive and harddrive that says 4GB/1TB but actually only gives you 3.7GB and 900 MB has a little extra space in it for spy software and lots of space for spy hardware.</p>
<p>That USB microphone you just plugged in is recording all your keystokes, and sending them back to base, using sophistcated software that can learn EASILY over time which finger is pushing which key, by the time between keys and which hand and finger it was.</p>
<p>That USB speaker is is really sending behind the scenes anything it hears.</p>
<p>That mouse is micromanaging every click in conjunction with the screen image software hidden in the background.</p>
<p>That phone which goes over the internet is routed very easily to a juntion box then to the internet.</p>
<p>That website you mistyped comes up perfectly as if you had typed it perfectly only its now going through a local server capturing everything and relaying everything.</p>
<p>The web-site you typed in perfectly using copy and paste or favourites is actually being spoofed with a &#8220;bogus&#8221; DNS entry and relaying everything you do to the real website.</p>
<p>That light you just turned on with the little camera capturing your screen in full HD, what you cant see a camera behind a light&#8230;.of course not who the hell would look towards a light.</p>
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		<title>By: Iain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 02:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, seem like  &#039;Yankee traders&#039; whatever they were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, seem like  &#8216;Yankee traders&#8217; whatever they were.</p>
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		<title>By: Zack B</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/02/13/to-escape-chinese-espionage-you-must-travel-electronically-naked/comment-page-1/#comment-3498630</link>
		<dc:creator>Zack B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 00:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I&#039;ve been pondering since reading the NYT article: how is the password kept on the flash drive? Encrypted with a one-time password?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I&#8217;ve been pondering since reading the NYT article: how is the password kept on the flash drive? Encrypted with a one-time password?</p>
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