Comments on: Democrats & Republicans Don't Care Much About Each Other's Physical Distress

By: floodmouse

floodmouse — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 17:35:14 +0000

Lack of empathy is always disturbing. I once overheard some college students talking about why they liked Michigan State University (Spartans) better than University of Michigan (Wolverines). They said it was because at Michigan State University, the campus is all self-enclosed parkland and you don’t have to walk past homeless people on your way to class. On the other hand, I once saw a self-proclaimed conservative republican middle-aged white mail suburban home owner offer a cold drink to a PIRGIM liberal democratic environmental door-to-door propagandist on a hot day in summer. When I vote, if I have a choice, I try to vote for people who show empathy for their constituents, not just along straight party politic lines.

By: Margaret Bartley

Margaret Bartley — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:38:25 +0000

I wonder why it matters whether the condition being asked about is shared by both people? Why would the fact that I share discomfort with my political opponent change my empathy, whereas if I am not in that condition, I do have empathy? The people in the warm library were as likely to empathize with the character who opposed their political beliefs as with the character who shared their beliefs. Ditto with the thirsty. This story lacked some important details – I hate that.

I wonder if the reason is becuase the empathy level was low for conditions that were not shared, no matter what the political correlations were? Maybe empathy is low on any condition that the viewer doesn’t share? That would explain the abilty to shrug off the discomfort we might feel when viewing obviously sick people, who look like meth addicts or alcoholics, when we see them begging on the streets? Because we don’t share that condition?

By: Wilson

Wilson — Sun, 15 Apr 2012 16:31:22 +0000

Think of the political spectrum as a clockface.

At 6 you have moderates at 9 and 3 you have left and right, and their positions harden all the way up to 12, where communism and fascism meet seemlessly. It’s an uniterrupted circle.

By: stargene

stargene — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 22:29:54 +0000

I am beginning to suspect an incongruity when we equate, say, liberals
with democrats (and possibly conservatives with republicans). When
on a newsgroup I wrote of recent studies giving some evidence for
anatomical differences between self-professed liberals and conservatives,
with detail and references, I postulated that any genetic basis for this
could reflect our long term species survival requiring both poles of
behavior, along with polarities along many other behavioral axes.
Ie: it’s easy to imagine species survival events requiring conservative
modes and other events requiring liberal modes of thought… retaining
both is a very good survival strategy. However, when my post arrived,
it received only hostile flaming and rants against conservatives, from
people on what I presume is the left. It was as though no one
had really taken the whole tenor of the studies to heart as a way of
bringing people back together, crossing the great divides. I am a
lifelong democrat (often disappointed) and a liberal. But I am not a
liberal because I am a democrat. I am a liberal because I am a liberal.
They really involve different things. I also wonder at times if people
on the left and the right are, in crucial ways, simply twisted reflections
of one another… both poles are noted for polar thinking; black and
white; either right or wrong. Not a healthy combo. My father styled
himself as a radical red, as were many of his friends. But even
as a kid, I noticed in his ‘preachings’ and anecdotes, a tinge of the
same intolerance for ‘the other’ and ‘differences of opinion’ and self-
righteousness that I saw on the far right. For what it’s worth.

By: Wilson

Wilson — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 13:40:26 +0000

A closer version of the quote is “If you are not a socialist in your youth, you have no heart. If you are not a conservative in your maturity, you have no brain!”

By: Pippa

Pippa — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 00:28:56 +0000

“Why college campuses have that political tilt is a question for another study.”
It has been said that anyone who is not more liberal as a young (person) and more conservative as an older adult is a fool! I would not expect to find many fools at that University.

By: odin

odin — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:35:23 +0000

78 to 39? Why not just say 2 to 1?

By: John Lerch

John Lerch — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:02:27 +0000

They also didn’t mention how extreme the political views of the fictional character were. One might empathize with someone at about the 1 SD away from the middle (or at least the perceived middle); but not empathize with Ted Kennedy or Ronald Reagan. Also there is a tendency in America to mis-think that conservatives are more anti-state than liberals; whereas the reality is that American conservatives on average score much higher on a Statist vs “Libertarian” scale than liberals. So e.g. I feel much more empathy for a libertarian conservative such as M Friedman than for Ron Santorum or N Gingrich or even a moderate such as M Romney (even though I think Friedman is wrong in worse ways than a typical conservative). Also since their anti-state rhetoric is so hypocritical I completely second Oldtaku’s suggestion of Schadenfreude.
Bottom line: they may not have accounted for hypocrisy in the political convictions of their fictional protagonist.

By: JMW

JMW — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 12:23:29 +0000

@2…and I think it also depends on which faculty you plumb for students. Economics and Law faculties probably have a higher proportion of conservative students.

By: Chris

Chris — Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:08:37 +0000

Why college campuses have that political tilt is a question for another study.

Well it does depend on the college. If you go to a religious college, I’m sure you’d find the situation reversed.