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	<title>Comments on: Why Stealing $10 of Pencils Doesn&#039;t Seem as Bad As Stealing $10</title>
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		<title>By: dino</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/06/26/why-stealing-10-of-pencils-doesnt-seem-as-bad-as-stealing-10/#comment-33428</link>
		<dc:creator>dino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 13:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I slightly agree with Jacob. The only different perspective I have is that the stolen pencil (from fellow student) signifies something of value to that student because he/she needs it for class task as much as the stealing student. To both students this pencil is valued highly, hence the need to discourage thieving behaviour. On the other hand, the &quot;work&quot; keeps piles of pencils in their stock rooms, further reducing their value as there is virtually no demand until someone walks to the stockroom to withdraw it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I slightly agree with Jacob. The only different perspective I have is that the stolen pencil (from fellow student) signifies something of value to that student because he/she needs it for class task as much as the stealing student. To both students this pencil is valued highly, hence the need to discourage thieving behaviour. On the other hand, the &#8220;work&#8221; keeps piles of pencils in their stock rooms, further reducing their value as there is virtually no demand until someone walks to the stockroom to withdraw it</p>
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		<title>By: Gwwiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gwwiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 19:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what Jacob is saying makes sense.  Consider your own answers to these two questions: What could I do with a (ten dollar) box of pencils?  What could I do with ten dollars?  The satisfied need does not compel, right?  The pencils can only ever satisfy a limited set of needs, while the cash equivalent is closer to being a multi-tool for addressing our needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what Jacob is saying makes sense.  Consider your own answers to these two questions: What could I do with a (ten dollar) box of pencils?  What could I do with ten dollars?  The satisfied need does not compel, right?  The pencils can only ever satisfy a limited set of needs, while the cash equivalent is closer to being a multi-tool for addressing our needs.</p>
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		<title>By: floodmouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>floodmouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 20:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2012/06/18/paying-for-creativity/

This link points to another recent Discover magazine blog, &quot;Paying For Creativity,&quot; where there is an interesting discussion of how different people view the act of downloading digital information (songs, etc) without paying for it.  Some people argue it&#039;s theft, and some insist that it&#039;s not.  Apparently digital information is like pencils:  People regard the object as different from the cash equivalent.</description>
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<p>This link points to another recent Discover magazine blog, &#8220;Paying For Creativity,&#8221; where there is an interesting discussion of how different people view the act of downloading digital information (songs, etc) without paying for it.  Some people argue it&#8217;s theft, and some insist that it&#8217;s not.  Apparently digital information is like pencils:  People regard the object as different from the cash equivalent.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2012 19:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Mr. Ariely quite has his hypothesis right. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s necessarily moral rationalizing. It&#039;s actually a pretty clear illustration of the economic principal of marginal utility.

Basically, the $10 in pencils isn&#039;t actually worth $10. They cost $10 at the store, but most of us don&#039;t currently want to buy $10 of pencils. Instead, we wait until our need for pencils (demand) increases to the point that we&#039;d be willing to part with that money. Before that point, our valuation of the pencils lies at some point below $10.

In contrast, as a median of exchange, $10 represents $10 of value in any context. I can get $10 of cheeseburgers, or $10 of video games, or $10 of clothing. Whatever my specific need is, a $10 bill gives me the ability to fill it if someone is selling for $10 or less.

In essence, the money represents not $10, but every single thing I could ever spend $10 on, including those pencils. The pencils, however, are just one of those things I could spend $10 on, and I cannot exchange them for something else worth $10. You really are stealing more from someone if you steal their cash rather than their stuff. I would imagine it feels worse to us because we intuitively understand that we&#039;re taking more value from someone when we take their money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Mr. Ariely quite has his hypothesis right. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s necessarily moral rationalizing. It&#8217;s actually a pretty clear illustration of the economic principal of marginal utility.</p>
<p>Basically, the $10 in pencils isn&#8217;t actually worth $10. They cost $10 at the store, but most of us don&#8217;t currently want to buy $10 of pencils. Instead, we wait until our need for pencils (demand) increases to the point that we&#8217;d be willing to part with that money. Before that point, our valuation of the pencils lies at some point below $10.</p>
<p>In contrast, as a median of exchange, $10 represents $10 of value in any context. I can get $10 of cheeseburgers, or $10 of video games, or $10 of clothing. Whatever my specific need is, a $10 bill gives me the ability to fill it if someone is selling for $10 or less.</p>
<p>In essence, the money represents not $10, but every single thing I could ever spend $10 on, including those pencils. The pencils, however, are just one of those things I could spend $10 on, and I cannot exchange them for something else worth $10. You really are stealing more from someone if you steal their cash rather than their stuff. I would imagine it feels worse to us because we intuitively understand that we&#8217;re taking more value from someone when we take their money.</p>
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