Comments on: Louisiana Set to Use Public Funds to Teach Creationism & Climate Denialism http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/06/27/louisiana-set-to-use-public-funds-to-teach-creationism-belief-in-loch-ness-monster/ Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:34:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Joycelyn Mason http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/06/27/louisiana-set-to-use-public-funds-to-teach-creationism-belief-in-loch-ness-monster/#comment-33494 Joycelyn Mason Sat, 07 Jul 2012 14:44:56 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/?p=38020#comment-33494 ok...GREETINGS,....I AM A NEW LIVING WORD PARENT & A FEW OF YOU GRABBED MY ATTENTION....MY KIDS HAVE BEEN @ THIS SCHOOL FROM DA BEGINNING & IF THE FUNDS WERE PROVIDED TO BETTER THE KIDS "WHY ARE SOOO MANY PPL HATING!!!! YEAH THATS EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE DOING...YOU GOT SO MUCH TO SAY BUT LITTLE DO YOU KNOW...IT SEEMS NONE OF YOU KNOW THE SITUATION HERE JUST READING FROM ARTICLE TO ARTICLE SOME UNDERSTANDS AND SOME OF YOUR MINDS ARE SO SIMPLE..THE CONCERNS HERE AS FOR US PARENTS OF THE KIDS HE HAS HELPED US !!! NOT YOU!!!! SO WHAT IF THE STATE HAS GIVEN TO HIS SCHOOL..I APPLAUD THEM FOR FINALLY WANTING TO STEP UP AND BREAK THIS SYSTEM WITHIN LINCOLN PARISH ITS SELF..OK WHEN YOU ARE A BLACK MOM OF 2 TEEN BOYS THIS GENERATION AND YOU KNOW WHATS AND WHO IS BEHIND YOUR KIDS THATS KEEPING THEM FROM ...STEALING..KILLING,.FIGHTING,GANG BANGGING...etc. IT'S A MUST WE STAND WITH PASTOR ,PRINCIPLE,COACH BALDWIN...LET ME GIVE YOU A LIL PERSONAL INSITE ON HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS STUDENTS ...FOR YOUR INFORMATION...MY EXPERIENCES WITH NEW LIVING WORD IS AWSOME,,,TO GOD GETS THE GLORY,NOT MAN!!! I GOT TO SAY @SID...SMH..ALL THE BAD STUDENTS CAN JUMP UP AND DOWN WHEN THEY PASS AND SAY GOD DID IT,HUH?? SAD COMMENT..BUT YOU ARE CORRECT..THEY ONLY THING IS YOU AND NOBODY ELSE HAS THE ROOM TO CALL ANY OF THESE KIDS BAD WHEN YOU ARE WHAT....MILES AND MILES AWAY!!!! STOP JUDGING FOR YOU WILL BE JUDGED...HALF OF YA STATEMENT WAS TRUE,I GIVE YOU THAT ..IT'S THE PART YOU SAID "THE KIDS WILL BE SAYING ..."GOD DID IT!!!" REMEMBER THAT!!!@ MAUREEN...SAD SAD COMMENT..BUT HONEY I AM HERE TO LET YOU KNOW NOTHINGS ABOUT MY MIND IS NARROW WHEN IT COMES TO MY KIDS...REMEMBER..MY KIDS ,MY CHOICE,,NOW NARROW MAYBE SIMPLE MINDED WAS SHOWN CLEARLY HERE !!!@GIL...HA..HA...LITTLE DO YOU GUYS KNOW WITH ALL THIS ASSUMING...YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY USUALLY WE MAKE OUT OF OURSELVES FOR ASSUMING..HA..LET'S SEE...MY 9TH GRADER JUST COMPLETED...MATH,SPANISH..WHILE MY 11TH GRADER ....JUST COMPLETED A LITTLE FRENCH!! LOL..IT WAS A TASK FOR HIM BUT GUESS WHAT ...HE PASSED IT!!!!! REGARDLESS THE STAEMENTS ...GET YOUR FACTS!!! FOREVER FATIHFUL, #1 NEW LIVING WORD LIONS FAN!! OH,STAY TUNED TO THEIR ,TRACK,FOOTBALL &BASKETBALL SEASON 2012-2013) LOL..SEND YA HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL TEAM & LET'S SEE !!!!! OK..IT WAS, THE PARISHES RESPECT OUR SCHOOL ...NOW IT'S THE WORLD THAT'S GONNA RESPECT OUR SCHOOL!!!! LOL...TALKING BOUT GOD INCREASING TERRITORY!!!! BIG BIG UP,PASTOR PRINCIPLE,COACH BALDWIN!!!!! YEAH,WE STAND WITH YA!!! L-I-O-N-S....NLW ALL DAY BABY!!! ok…GREETINGS,….I AM A NEW LIVING WORD PARENT & A FEW OF YOU GRABBED MY ATTENTION….MY KIDS HAVE BEEN @ THIS SCHOOL FROM DA BEGINNING & IF THE FUNDS WERE PROVIDED TO BETTER THE KIDS “WHY ARE SOOO MANY PPL HATING!!!! YEAH THATS EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE DOING…YOU GOT SO MUCH TO SAY BUT LITTLE DO YOU KNOW…IT SEEMS NONE OF YOU KNOW THE SITUATION HERE JUST READING FROM ARTICLE TO ARTICLE SOME UNDERSTANDS AND SOME OF YOUR MINDS ARE SO SIMPLE..THE CONCERNS HERE AS FOR US PARENTS OF THE KIDS HE HAS HELPED US !!! NOT YOU!!!! SO WHAT IF THE STATE HAS GIVEN TO HIS SCHOOL..I APPLAUD THEM FOR FINALLY WANTING TO STEP UP AND BREAK THIS SYSTEM WITHIN LINCOLN PARISH ITS SELF..OK WHEN YOU ARE A BLACK MOM OF 2 TEEN BOYS THIS GENERATION AND YOU KNOW WHATS AND WHO IS BEHIND YOUR KIDS THATS KEEPING THEM FROM …STEALING..KILLING,.FIGHTING,GANG BANGGING…etc. IT’S A MUST WE STAND WITH PASTOR ,PRINCIPLE,COACH BALDWIN…LET ME GIVE YOU A LIL PERSONAL INSITE ON HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS STUDENTS …FOR YOUR INFORMATION…MY EXPERIENCES WITH NEW LIVING WORD IS AWSOME,,,TO GOD GETS THE GLORY,NOT MAN!!! I GOT TO SAY @SID…SMH..ALL THE BAD STUDENTS CAN JUMP UP AND DOWN WHEN THEY PASS AND SAY GOD DID IT,HUH?? SAD COMMENT..BUT YOU ARE CORRECT..THEY ONLY THING IS YOU AND NOBODY ELSE HAS THE ROOM TO CALL ANY OF THESE KIDS BAD WHEN YOU ARE WHAT….MILES AND MILES AWAY!!!! STOP JUDGING FOR YOU WILL BE JUDGED…HALF OF YA STATEMENT WAS TRUE,I GIVE YOU THAT ..IT’S THE PART YOU SAID “THE KIDS WILL BE SAYING …”GOD DID IT!!!” REMEMBER THAT!!!@ MAUREEN…SAD SAD COMMENT..BUT HONEY I AM HERE TO LET YOU KNOW NOTHINGS ABOUT MY MIND IS NARROW WHEN IT COMES TO MY KIDS…REMEMBER..MY KIDS ,MY CHOICE,,NOW NARROW MAYBE SIMPLE MINDED WAS SHOWN CLEARLY HERE !!!@GIL…HA..HA…LITTLE DO YOU GUYS KNOW WITH ALL THIS ASSUMING…YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY USUALLY WE MAKE OUT OF OURSELVES FOR ASSUMING..HA..LET’S SEE…MY 9TH GRADER JUST COMPLETED…MATH,SPANISH..WHILE MY 11TH GRADER ….JUST COMPLETED A LITTLE FRENCH!! LOL..IT WAS A TASK FOR HIM BUT GUESS WHAT …HE PASSED IT!!!!! REGARDLESS THE STAEMENTS …GET YOUR FACTS!!! FOREVER FATIHFUL, #1 NEW LIVING WORD LIONS FAN!! OH,STAY TUNED TO THEIR ,TRACK,FOOTBALL &BASKETBALL SEASON 2012-2013) LOL..SEND YA HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL TEAM & LET’S SEE !!!!! OK..IT WAS, THE PARISHES RESPECT OUR SCHOOL …NOW IT’S THE WORLD THAT’S GONNA RESPECT OUR SCHOOL!!!! LOL…TALKING BOUT GOD INCREASING TERRITORY!!!! BIG BIG UP,PASTOR PRINCIPLE,COACH BALDWIN!!!!! YEAH,WE STAND WITH YA!!! L-I-O-N-S….NLW ALL DAY BABY!!!

]]> By: Sunny D http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/06/27/louisiana-set-to-use-public-funds-to-teach-creationism-belief-in-loch-ness-monster/#comment-33490 Sunny D Tue, 03 Jul 2012 14:55:09 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/?p=38020#comment-33490 It's too bad religious people don't realize Creationism is a myth designed to describe in poetic form how the Universe came into being, through the mind of God... And it's too bad that athiests and scientists take pride in debunking Creationism which is so obviously a myth. Creationism should be not taken literally by anyone, including scientists. Anyone who does, arguing for or against it, makes a fool out of themselves. Then again, I take that back. Someone has to step in and beat those who take it literally across the head with a hammer. It’s too bad religious people don’t realize Creationism is a myth designed to describe in poetic form how the Universe came into being, through the mind of God…

And it’s too bad that athiests and scientists take pride in debunking Creationism which is so obviously a myth.

Creationism should be not taken literally by anyone, including scientists. Anyone who does, arguing for or against it, makes a fool out of themselves.

Then again, I take that back. Someone has to step in and beat those who take it literally across the head with a hammer.

]]> By: Sid http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/06/27/louisiana-set-to-use-public-funds-to-teach-creationism-belief-in-loch-ness-monster/#comment-33489 Sid Mon, 02 Jul 2012 22:00:47 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/?p=38020#comment-33489 At least all the bad students can just put down "god did it" and they will pass! At least all the bad students can just put down “god did it” and they will pass!

]]> By: christina knight http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/06/27/louisiana-set-to-use-public-funds-to-teach-creationism-belief-in-loch-ness-monster/#comment-33488 christina knight Mon, 02 Jul 2012 20:35:31 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/?p=38020#comment-33488 I have always believed that the real motivation behind so-called 'school choice' and voucher program initiatives is the desire by some parents to segregate and shelter their children from exposure to secular teaching and influences, or from sharing classrooms with minority students. The truth of the matter is that private schools can be selective, and refuse to take students that are underachieving (which are often minority students). Lack of parental involvement and motivation to suceed in low achieving students are the main reasons that they perform poorly. School choice is not the solution to this country's education issues. University's should require that students from religious schools that teach Creationism enroll in remedial science classes before being accepted into any science programs at the university level. The only way to stop the stupidity of Creationism is to make it costly for the schools to teach it to its students (by penalizing the students enrolled in these schools). I have always believed that the real motivation behind so-called ‘school choice’ and voucher program initiatives is the desire by some parents to segregate and shelter their children from exposure to secular teaching and influences, or from sharing classrooms with minority students. The truth of the matter is that private schools can be selective, and refuse to take students that are underachieving (which are often minority students). Lack of parental involvement and motivation to suceed in low achieving students are the main reasons that they perform poorly. School choice is not the solution to this country’s education issues.
University’s should require that students from religious schools that teach Creationism enroll in remedial science classes before being accepted into any science programs at the university level. The only way to stop the stupidity of Creationism is to make it costly for the schools to teach it to its students (by penalizing the students enrolled in these schools).

]]> By: thorvin http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/06/27/louisiana-set-to-use-public-funds-to-teach-creationism-belief-in-loch-ness-monster/#comment-33487 thorvin Mon, 02 Jul 2012 18:06:13 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/?p=38020#comment-33487 isnt the lack of proof god created the universe also proof he didnt . i mean you cant disprove a negative. its like saying that a magic invisable dragon made gold and thats why its valuble then saying the disprove it isnt the lack of proof god created the universe also proof he didnt . i mean you cant disprove a negative. its like saying that a magic invisable dragon made gold and thats why its valuble then saying the disprove it

]]> By: scribbler http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/06/27/louisiana-set-to-use-public-funds-to-teach-creationism-belief-in-loch-ness-monster/#comment-33486 scribbler Mon, 02 Jul 2012 08:21:41 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/?p=38020#comment-33486 I'm in a generous mood so I'll even save you the trouble of reading my posts to make sure what I said was true by referring you to post 33 above which quotes me: "... for God could well have Chosen evolution to Accomplish His Creation..." Later... I’m in a generous mood so I’ll even save you the trouble of reading my posts to make sure what I said was true by referring you to post 33 above which quotes me: “… for God could well have Chosen evolution to Accomplish His Creation…”

Later…

]]> By: scribbler http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/06/27/louisiana-set-to-use-public-funds-to-teach-creationism-belief-in-loch-ness-monster/#comment-33485 scribbler Mon, 02 Jul 2012 08:15:16 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/?p=38020#comment-33485 40, You should actually read my posts. I NEVER made the assertion that there is insufficient evidence for evolution. I merely quantified SOME of it as "so called"... I may have eluded to my firm experience that often you have perfectly reasoned and validated evidence that fits and explains everything and it STILL absolutely incorrect but I never said there isn't enough evidence to convince the science community beyond argument that evolution is fact. I have, of course my own personal interpretation of the same evidence and know the reasoning behind my own personal disagreement with many conclusions held by many but that is another matter altogether... I see you brought your own matches (so you don't have to actually read, that is in reference to my assertion that most here can't see past their own, tattered and worn straw men ;-)) so I won't offer you any... (tucking matches and self assurance neatly under tin hat again) 40, You should actually read my posts. I NEVER made the assertion that there is insufficient evidence for evolution. I merely quantified SOME of it as “so called”…

I may have eluded to my firm experience that often you have perfectly reasoned and validated evidence that fits and explains everything and it STILL absolutely incorrect but I never said there isn’t enough evidence to convince the science community beyond argument that evolution is fact. I have, of course my own personal interpretation of the same evidence and know the reasoning behind my own personal disagreement with many conclusions held by many but that is another matter altogether…

I see you brought your own matches (so you don’t have to actually read, that is in reference to my assertion that most here can’t see past their own, tattered and worn straw men ;-) ) so I won’t offer you any…

(tucking matches and self assurance neatly under tin hat again)

]]> By: Ruth Freese http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/06/27/louisiana-set-to-use-public-funds-to-teach-creationism-belief-in-loch-ness-monster/#comment-33483 Ruth Freese Sun, 01 Jul 2012 13:29:21 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/?p=38020#comment-33483 The best book I've ever read about evolution (sorry, Professor Dawkins) is "Why Evolution is True" by Jerry A Coyne. He touches on all sorts of topics: fossil evidence, including distribution of fossils, genetics, vestigial organs, embryonic development, and physiological 'mistakes' that make perfect sense if you consider the organism is the product of natural selection. I particularly enjoyed his discussion of animal life on different sorts of islands. Scribbler, you should force yourself to read it. You will find that your assertation that there is insufficient evidence for evolution is simply not true. The best book I’ve ever read about evolution (sorry, Professor Dawkins) is “Why Evolution is True” by Jerry A Coyne. He touches on all sorts of topics: fossil evidence, including distribution of fossils, genetics, vestigial organs, embryonic development, and physiological ‘mistakes’ that make perfect sense if you consider the organism is the product of natural selection. I particularly enjoyed his discussion of animal life on different sorts of islands. Scribbler, you should force yourself to read it. You will find that your assertation that there is insufficient evidence for evolution is simply not true.

]]> By: Sam http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/06/27/louisiana-set-to-use-public-funds-to-teach-creationism-belief-in-loch-ness-monster/#comment-33482 Sam Sun, 01 Jul 2012 13:04:52 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/?p=38020#comment-33482 It seems like there is a deliberate movement by the Church to return power to itself like its heyday in the middle ages. The clergy have the most to gain by fueling such teachings. Are we going to turn into a version of Iran? It seems like there is a deliberate movement by the Church to return power to itself like its heyday in the middle ages. The clergy have the most to gain by fueling such teachings. Are we going to turn into a version of Iran?

]]> By: M http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/06/27/louisiana-set-to-use-public-funds-to-teach-creationism-belief-in-loch-ness-monster/#comment-33481 M Sun, 01 Jul 2012 12:23:20 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/?p=38020#comment-33481 It will be interesting to see how natural selection pans out here but I doubt I'll live long enough. What's scary is that people who don't believe in global warming or evolution VOTE! It will be interesting to see how natural selection pans out here but I doubt I’ll live long enough. What’s scary is that people who don’t believe in global warming or evolution VOTE!

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