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	<title>Comments on: Let&#039;s Destroy Space Junk! By Putting Tons of Metal Dust into Orbit?</title>
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		<title>By: Pat Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 19:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The chief cause of problems is solutions. ~Eric Sevareid</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The chief cause of problems is solutions. ~Eric Sevareid</p>
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		<title>By: Prof.Pedant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prof.Pedant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 18:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since it is vacuum that needs to be cleaned up....wouldn&#039;t it make sense to use a &#039;vacuum cleaner&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since it is vacuum that needs to be cleaned up&#8230;.wouldn&#8217;t it make sense to use a &#8216;vacuum cleaner&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2012/06/28/lets-destroy-space-junk-by-putting-tons-of-metal-dust-into-orbit/#comment-33523</link>
		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 23:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recall someone suggesting that the dust be made from a plastic, so that it will degrade in the intense sunlight</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall someone suggesting that the dust be made from a plastic, so that it will degrade in the intense sunlight</p>
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		<title>By: David Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 23:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if the dust has orbital velocity, radiation pressure will push its orbit into the atmosphere in a short time (if the particles are small enough).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if the dust has orbital velocity, radiation pressure will push its orbit into the atmosphere in a short time (if the particles are small enough).</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Cornish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Cornish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if the dust is not doing orbital velocity (7.mumble kps) it will deorbit, so overall it would be safe.  for any of the dust to remain in orbit, it would have to be accellerated to orbital velocity, right?

So what you are doing here is launching your intercept booster in a direction opposite the direction of the target object.  When the dust hits the object it´s like two cars colliding head on, you don´t (generally) get one car speeding off faster than it was originally going.  Both slow down

The dust that misses, is not doing near orbital velocity, so like the nice diagram shows, it falls back. (Remember an orbit is where you are constantly falling towards the Earth´s surface, but your sideways velocity is fast enough that you MISS due to the Earth´s curvature)

Making sure that the junk you want to take down is in the right spot for the intercept, that´s more tricky.

I like the Blasting, er ablating with lasers concept myself, and I think the electro motivc tether deorbit system is also worthwhile (Because, dude, electromotive tethers!!  Drag the target down, or drag it up! all by cutting the Earth´s magnetic field with a conductor!)

In the short term for nuisance objects in LEO the suborbital shotgun here might well be worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if the dust is not doing orbital velocity (7.mumble kps) it will deorbit, so overall it would be safe.  for any of the dust to remain in orbit, it would have to be accellerated to orbital velocity, right?</p>
<p>So what you are doing here is launching your intercept booster in a direction opposite the direction of the target object.  When the dust hits the object it´s like two cars colliding head on, you don´t (generally) get one car speeding off faster than it was originally going.  Both slow down</p>
<p>The dust that misses, is not doing near orbital velocity, so like the nice diagram shows, it falls back. (Remember an orbit is where you are constantly falling towards the Earth´s surface, but your sideways velocity is fast enough that you MISS due to the Earth´s curvature)</p>
<p>Making sure that the junk you want to take down is in the right spot for the intercept, that´s more tricky.</p>
<p>I like the Blasting, er ablating with lasers concept myself, and I think the electro motivc tether deorbit system is also worthwhile (Because, dude, electromotive tethers!!  Drag the target down, or drag it up! all by cutting the Earth´s magnetic field with a conductor!)</p>
<p>In the short term for nuisance objects in LEO the suborbital shotgun here might well be worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had an idea about a cleanup mini-sat that&#039;d just have to get close to debris, then fire a squirt of some kind of gas (heading in the opposite direction, natch) such that the debris would hit the gas and lose enough velocity that it&#039;d wind up falling out of orbit (or at least start spiraling downward). The gas would disperse, so it wouldn&#039;t be a long-term threat at all.

It&#039;s probable, however, that the gas would disperse too quickly, or wouldn&#039;t slow the debris enough to make it worthwhile, or it&#039;d be too hard for the cleanup sat to get close enough with enough accuracy. Ahwell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had an idea about a cleanup mini-sat that&#8217;d just have to get close to debris, then fire a squirt of some kind of gas (heading in the opposite direction, natch) such that the debris would hit the gas and lose enough velocity that it&#8217;d wind up falling out of orbit (or at least start spiraling downward). The gas would disperse, so it wouldn&#8217;t be a long-term threat at all.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s probable, however, that the gas would disperse too quickly, or wouldn&#8217;t slow the debris enough to make it worthwhile, or it&#8217;d be too hard for the cleanup sat to get close enough with enough accuracy. Ahwell.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 17:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The country that owns the pieces of space junk should be required to remove it.</description>
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		<title>By: fintin</title>
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		<dc:creator>fintin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldn&#039;t we use some sort of sweeper system? It guess it sounds ridiculous, but it&#039;d have more control than a bunch of dust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t we use some sort of sweeper system? It guess it sounds ridiculous, but it&#8217;d have more control than a bunch of dust.</p>
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		<title>By: IW</title>
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		<dc:creator>IW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally, a use for rust!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, a use for rust!</p>
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		<title>By: scribbler</title>
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		<dc:creator>scribbler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 02:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not use water? I mean, put the water into a shape and size you want, freeze it and put it into an orbit where it picks up debris and at a certain mass, falls harmlessly back to earth...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not use water? I mean, put the water into a shape and size you want, freeze it and put it into an orbit where it picks up debris and at a certain mass, falls harmlessly back to earth&#8230;</p>
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