Comments on: Putting the sham in shamanic http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/03/15/putting-the-sham-in-shamanic/ I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:07:35 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Shane http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/03/15/putting-the-sham-in-shamanic/comment-page-1/#comment-157217 Shane Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:33:50 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/03/15/putting-the-sham-in-shamanic/#comment-157217 Trying to breath new life into old posts Ivan3man? :-) Trying to breath new life into old posts Ivan3man?
:-)

]]> By: Ivan3man http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/03/15/putting-the-sham-in-shamanic/comment-page-1/#comment-157216 Ivan3man Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:32:12 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/03/15/putting-the-sham-in-shamanic/#comment-157216 Hmm... the "<_h1-h6_>" HTML tags don't work here. Hmm… the “<_h1 -h6_>” HTML tags don’t work here.

]]> By: Ivan3man http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/03/15/putting-the-sham-in-shamanic/comment-page-1/#comment-157215 Ivan3man Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:24:48 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/03/15/putting-the-sham-in-shamanic/#comment-157215 <p><center><h1>Astrology sucks!</h1> <h2>Astrology sucks!</h2> <h3>Astrology sucks!</h3> <h4>Astrology sucks!</h4> <h5>Astrology sucks!</h5> <h6>Astrology sucks!</h6></center></p>

Astrology sucks!

Astrology sucks!

Astrology sucks!

Astrology sucks!

Astrology sucks!
Astrology sucks!

]]> By: Rufus http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/03/15/putting-the-sham-in-shamanic/comment-page-1/#comment-4186 Rufus Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:25:37 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/03/15/putting-the-sham-in-shamanic/#comment-4186 There is more to life than rationality. There are feelings, thoughts, passions, desires.... Have any of you heard of Jung? Ever heard of archetypes? Are all of that knowledge new age BS according to you rational people? It is obvous most of the people on this blog have the mercury in Aries. There is more to life than rationality. There are feelings, thoughts, passions, desires…. Have any of you heard of Jung? Ever heard of archetypes? Are all of that knowledge new age BS according to you rational people?

It is obvous most of the people on this blog have the mercury in Aries.

]]> By: Ken Gayley http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/03/15/putting-the-sham-in-shamanic/comment-page-1/#comment-4185 Ken Gayley Mon, 10 Oct 2005 01:45:07 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/03/15/putting-the-sham-in-shamanic/#comment-4185 In response to Seamyst, the point being made is that whenever astrology or new-age philosophy has any meaning, the meaning derives from the way in which it is interpreted by the listener. In other words, the wisdom is input by the client, not supplied by the practitioner. So even though it may have some value in encouraging people to introspect, it's obviously a pretty good racket! I suppose some might argue that so is psychology, but at least there is a great effort there to establish reliable credentials and accountability. In response to Seamyst, the point being made is that whenever astrology
or new-age philosophy has any meaning, the meaning derives from the way
in which it is interpreted by the listener. In other words, the wisdom is input
by the client, not supplied by the practitioner. So even though it may have
some value in encouraging people to introspect, it’s obviously a pretty good
racket! I suppose some might argue that so is psychology, but at least there
is a great effort there to establish reliable credentials and accountability.

]]> By: ElWampa http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/03/15/putting-the-sham-in-shamanic/comment-page-1/#comment-4184 ElWampa Fri, 01 Apr 2005 19:23:11 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/03/15/putting-the-sham-in-shamanic/#comment-4184 Sure, sure! It's just the same old & tired, meaningless, new age self help rhetoric that has been re-worded. It makes the same amount of sense as it originally did. Just step outside the New Age loop, and you will see what we're talking about. And just for your information. It only takes a little rationality and intelligence to be a whole and balanced individual, not this trash! Sure, sure!

It’s just the same old & tired, meaningless, new age self help rhetoric that has been re-worded.

It makes the same amount of sense as it originally did. Just step outside the New Age loop, and you will see what we’re talking about.

And just for your information. It only takes a little rationality and intelligence to be a whole and balanced individual, not this trash!

]]> By: Seamyst http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/03/15/putting-the-sham-in-shamanic/comment-page-1/#comment-4183 Seamyst Wed, 30 Mar 2005 04:13:58 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/03/15/putting-the-sham-in-shamanic/#comment-4183 "Wholeness is awakening to your shadow as well as your light, balancing the upper, lower, and middle worlds, and integrating your past lineage with your future soul intention. " Actually, if you take this apart, some of it DOES make sense. (Please note, I am agnostic. I do NOT believe in all this.) "Wholeness" - duh, being whole, being complete. "your shadow" - your dark side. This is in psychology, can't think what it's called right now. Some people are more in tune with their dark side than others - this does NOT refer to criminal or wrong acts. "balancing the upper, lower, and middle worlds" - not entirely sure on this one, except it reminds me of Tolkien's Middle Earth. "integrating ... soul intention" - combining your past experiences, whether they be in this lifetime or in past lifetimes (if you believe in reincarnation) with your future dreams and goals. So basically, this person's saying that in order to be a whole and balanced individual, you need to acknowledge and become comfortable with your dark/shadow side as well as your light side, you need to balance all parts of your life, and you need to both come to grips with your past as well as be aware of your future goals. See? When you translate it like that, it makes sense and isn't so bad. “Wholeness is awakening to your shadow as well as your light, balancing the upper, lower, and middle worlds, and integrating your past lineage with your future soul intention. ”

Actually, if you take this apart, some of it DOES make sense. (Please note, I am agnostic. I do NOT believe in all this.)

“Wholeness” – duh, being whole, being complete.
“your shadow” – your dark side. This is in psychology, can’t think what it’s called right now. Some people are more in tune with their dark side than others – this does NOT refer to criminal or wrong acts.
“balancing the upper, lower, and middle worlds” – not entirely sure on this one, except it reminds me of Tolkien’s Middle Earth.
“integrating … soul intention” – combining your past experiences, whether they be in this lifetime or in past lifetimes (if you believe in reincarnation) with your future dreams and goals.

So basically, this person’s saying that in order to be a whole and balanced individual, you need to acknowledge and become comfortable with your dark/shadow side as well as your light side, you need to balance all parts of your life, and you need to both come to grips with your past as well as be aware of your future goals.

See? When you translate it like that, it makes sense and isn’t so bad.

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