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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Crater Hale Revisited - Page 2 - Bad Astronomy and Universe Today Forum</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/05/05/mars-polar-lander-found/comment-page-1/#comment-138920</link>
		<dc:creator>Crater Hale Revisited - Page 2 - Bad Astronomy and Universe Today Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a couple examples of images of things on Mars taken from orbit. Not great, but examples still.    From Bad Astronomy  From the Planetary Society  I was looking for a slightly more detailed article that included [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a couple examples of images of things on Mars taken from orbit. Not great, but examples still.    From Bad Astronomy  From the Planetary Society  I was looking for a slightly more detailed article that included [...]</p>
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		<title>By: phentermine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/05/05/mars-polar-lander-found/comment-page-1/#comment-4562</link>
		<dc:creator>phentermine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 18:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;phentermine...&lt;/strong&gt;

Managua conciseness chaperon blonds stimulates:phentermine http://phenterminehclhere.blogspot.com/ ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>phentermine&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Managua conciseness chaperon blonds stimulates:phentermine <a href="http://phenterminehclhere.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://phenterminehclhere.blogspot.com/</a> &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: L. Fuller</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/05/05/mars-polar-lander-found/comment-page-1/#comment-4561</link>
		<dc:creator>L. Fuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2005 15:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The official Mars Climate Orbiter site:

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msp98/orbiter/

Nigel&#039;s site seems to be biased towards conspiracy theory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The official Mars Climate Orbiter site:</p>
<p><a href="http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msp98/orbiter/" rel="nofollow">http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msp98/orbiter/</a></p>
<p>Nigel&#8217;s site seems to be biased towards conspiracy theory.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/05/05/mars-polar-lander-found/comment-page-1/#comment-4560</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2005 21:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle, it was Mars Climate Orbiter, and the confusion was over pounds of thrust versus Newtons of thrust.  For more info see here:
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/2191/MCO.htm

Did that come out as a hyperlink?

Anyway, amazing images, and pretty amazing that it is possible to infer such detail from images where the size of the object under observation is of the same order of magnitude as the resolution limit!  Maybe with the next generation of cameras orbiting Mars they&#039;ll even find tiny little Beagle 2 (or the remains thereof).  Who&#039;d have thought you could send a lander to Mars for less than $75,000,000?  Oh ... you can&#039;t. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle, it was Mars Climate Orbiter, and the confusion was over pounds of thrust versus Newtons of thrust.  For more info see here:<br />
<a href="http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/2191/MCO.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/2191/MCO.htm</a></p>
<p>Did that come out as a hyperlink?</p>
<p>Anyway, amazing images, and pretty amazing that it is possible to infer such detail from images where the size of the object under observation is of the same order of magnitude as the resolution limit!  Maybe with the next generation of cameras orbiting Mars they&#8217;ll even find tiny little Beagle 2 (or the remains thereof).  Who&#8217;d have thought you could send a lander to Mars for less than $75,000,000?  Oh &#8230; you can&#8217;t. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Rochon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/05/05/mars-polar-lander-found/comment-page-1/#comment-4559</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Rochon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2005 02:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, golly! That&#039;s amazing they could spot the baby... Didn&#039;t someone also analyze Clementine images and find some Apollo??? It&#039;s incredible what you can do sometimes!

I have a faint memory of something that crashed on Mars or didn&#039;t  reach it or whatever... I know they had mixed metric with inches. Which one was that again???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, golly! That&#8217;s amazing they could spot the baby&#8230; Didn&#8217;t someone also analyze Clementine images and find some Apollo??? It&#8217;s incredible what you can do sometimes!</p>
<p>I have a faint memory of something that crashed on Mars or didn&#8217;t  reach it or whatever&#8230; I know they had mixed metric with inches. Which one was that again???</p>
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		<title>By: The Black Cat</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/05/05/mars-polar-lander-found/comment-page-1/#comment-4555</link>
		<dc:creator>The Black Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 16:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very intersting.  One quick question.  How can we tell the black area near the lander (if that is what it really is) are blast marks and not &quot;skid&quot; marks,  bounce marks, or debris from when the lander crashed?  How do we know it didn&#039;t dig up or knocked away some soil or lost some pieces and then continued moving a bit before coming to a stop?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very intersting.  One quick question.  How can we tell the black area near the lander (if that is what it really is) are blast marks and not &#8220;skid&#8221; marks,  bounce marks, or debris from when the lander crashed?  How do we know it didn&#8217;t dig up or knocked away some soil or lost some pieces and then continued moving a bit before coming to a stop?</p>
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		<title>By: Infinate Idiocy  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Mars Polar Lander</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/05/05/mars-polar-lander-found/comment-page-1/#comment-4558</link>
		<dc:creator>Infinate Idiocy  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; Mars Polar Lander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 14:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] m         Interesting post about the possible finding of the Mars Polar Lander over at Bad Astronomy. I&#8217;m not too much of a science person, but I find it amazing the things we can do ho [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] m</p>
<p> Interesting post about the possible finding of the Mars Polar Lander over at Bad Astronomy. I&#8217;m not too much of a science person, but I find it amazing the things we can do ho [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom&#8217;s Astronomy Blog  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; That Was Quick..maybe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/05/05/mars-polar-lander-found/comment-page-1/#comment-4557</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom&#8217;s Astronomy Blog  &#187; Blog Archive   &#187; That Was Quick..maybe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 13:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] t Was Quick..maybe 	 			 					The Mars Polar Lander may have been found already!  See this post at Bad Astronomy for the story.  	 					 				 					 						This entry was posted 						  						on Fr [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] t Was Quick..maybe 	 			 					The Mars Polar Lander may have been found already!  See this post at Bad Astronomy for the story.  	 					 				 					 						This entry was posted 						  						on Fr [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cugel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/05/05/mars-polar-lander-found/comment-page-1/#comment-4556</link>
		<dc:creator>Cugel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 12:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the landingmotor did switch off at 40 meters, would it have left such an impressive blast-zone? Actually, this picture looks exactly like what you expect to find after a successful touchdown!  However, if you look closely at the terrain at the highest resolution picture it is covered with these black pits. (Or whatever they are) If these are not compression artifacts, but real surface features it means that MPL landed in some pretty rough terrain.  Maybe it just ran out of luck at the very last moment of its journey?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the landingmotor did switch off at 40 meters, would it have left such an impressive blast-zone? Actually, this picture looks exactly like what you expect to find after a successful touchdown!  However, if you look closely at the terrain at the highest resolution picture it is covered with these black pits. (Or whatever they are) If these are not compression artifacts, but real surface features it means that MPL landed in some pretty rough terrain.  Maybe it just ran out of luck at the very last moment of its journey?</p>
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		<title>By: James Snell</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/05/05/mars-polar-lander-found/comment-page-1/#comment-4554</link>
		<dc:creator>James Snell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 04:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bah! That Viking picture is clearly some form of hyperdimensional energy relay device! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bah! That Viking picture is clearly some form of hyperdimensional energy relay device! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Steve Collins</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/05/05/mars-polar-lander-found/comment-page-1/#comment-4553</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 02:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great detective work!

Now that the locations are known, will you be re-visiting them for additional photography?

Are super-resolution images a possibility?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great detective work!</p>
<p>Now that the locations are known, will you be re-visiting them for additional photography?</p>
<p>Are super-resolution images a possibility?</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/05/05/mars-polar-lander-found/comment-page-1/#comment-4552</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 02:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great! Now show me the lower half of the Luner Lander on the moon. If we can look at the sun, we can look at the moon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great! Now show me the lower half of the Luner Lander on the moon. If we can look at the sun, we can look at the moon.</p>
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		<title>By: The Bad Astronomer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/05/05/mars-polar-lander-found/comment-page-1/#comment-4550</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bad Astronomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 01:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh. Yup, that&#039;s a straight typo. I fixed it, thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. Yup, that&#8217;s a straight typo. I fixed it, thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Van Rijn</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/05/05/mars-polar-lander-found/comment-page-1/#comment-4551</link>
		<dc:creator>Van Rijn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2005 00:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice.  One typo:  You said that Viking 2 landed in 1997, instead of 1976.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice.  One typo:  You said that Viking 2 landed in 1997, instead of 1976.</p>
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