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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: SoonerJJ</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/07/10/war-of-the-worlds/comment-page-1/#comment-5433</link>
		<dc:creator>SoonerJJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 02:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I can say is a Democrat was in the White House calling all the shots because we only used light arms against the tripods. Maybe he (or she) was afraid of torturing these monsters. Where were the bunker-busters to take the ground right out from under these bastards? Shields? So what?

Good movie. Not enough special effects. Heck, it took another 30 minutes to get to more tripods after the first showing. Too bad there are no deleted scenes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I can say is a Democrat was in the White House calling all the shots because we only used light arms against the tripods. Maybe he (or she) was afraid of torturing these monsters. Where were the bunker-busters to take the ground right out from under these bastards? Shields? So what?</p>
<p>Good movie. Not enough special effects. Heck, it took another 30 minutes to get to more tripods after the first showing. Too bad there are no deleted scenes.</p>
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		<title>By: hopeless astronomer</title>
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		<dc:creator>hopeless astronomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2005 00:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NB: it&#039;s been a while since I read the original - the Martians eradicated disease so were prey to human infections, more than we were to theirs. However, species jumping viruses can be deadly in one species and harmless in another. I guess Well&#039;s didn&#039;t know that.

I still don&#039;t think the War of the Worlds is really &#039;hard-core science fiction&#039; in the way that the Time Machine is. A funny position to take, but there you go....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NB: it&#8217;s been a while since I read the original &#8211; the Martians eradicated disease so were prey to human infections, more than we were to theirs. However, species jumping viruses can be deadly in one species and harmless in another. I guess Well&#8217;s didn&#8217;t know that.</p>
<p>I still don&#8217;t think the War of the Worlds is really &#8216;hard-core science fiction&#8217; in the way that the Time Machine is. A funny position to take, but there you go&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: hopeless astronomer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2005/07/10/war-of-the-worlds/comment-page-1/#comment-5431</link>
		<dc:creator>hopeless astronomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2005 00:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a work of science fiction, Speilberg&#039;s war of the worlds is hopelessly flawed, but then, let&#039;s face it, so is the original. Why didn&#039;t the good burghers of planet Earth get Mars germs?

As a work of satire, calculated horror and a brilliant evocation of the panic of a society overwhelmed by vastly superior firepower, Well&#039;s classic is unsurpassed.

Spielberg drops the satire and adds in a bit of Lovecraftian cosmological alienation: as flies to wanton boys are we to the gods: they kill us for their sport, and so on. I liked the feeling of being utterly insignificant - prey to ancient intelligences.

This I feel was also true to some of Wells spirit: that side of the author that revelled in the gothic horror of the Martians and the Morlocks and the Island of Dr Moreau, as well as the more popular image of the rationalist writer of extrapolative fiction. Like George Lucas (only much much better) Speilberg has never really been a maker of science fiction movies because he is actually incapable of thinking logically. Rather he is a supreme dreamer, a myth maker.

A very haunting and frightening film.

The family stuff was irritating.

Has anyone  visited www.tomcruiseisnuts.com?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a work of science fiction, Speilberg&#8217;s war of the worlds is hopelessly flawed, but then, let&#8217;s face it, so is the original. Why didn&#8217;t the good burghers of planet Earth get Mars germs?</p>
<p>As a work of satire, calculated horror and a brilliant evocation of the panic of a society overwhelmed by vastly superior firepower, Well&#8217;s classic is unsurpassed.</p>
<p>Spielberg drops the satire and adds in a bit of Lovecraftian cosmological alienation: as flies to wanton boys are we to the gods: they kill us for their sport, and so on. I liked the feeling of being utterly insignificant &#8211; prey to ancient intelligences.</p>
<p>This I feel was also true to some of Wells spirit: that side of the author that revelled in the gothic horror of the Martians and the Morlocks and the Island of Dr Moreau, as well as the more popular image of the rationalist writer of extrapolative fiction. Like George Lucas (only much much better) Speilberg has never really been a maker of science fiction movies because he is actually incapable of thinking logically. Rather he is a supreme dreamer, a myth maker.</p>
<p>A very haunting and frightening film.</p>
<p>The family stuff was irritating.</p>
<p>Has anyone  visited <a href="http://www.tomcruiseisnuts.com?" rel="nofollow">http://www.tomcruiseisnuts.com?</a></p>
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		<title>By: Melusine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melusine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2005 19:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!-- spamk    : Comment text: &#039;I heard the radio show, then saw the movie the next night, and recalled Vincent Resh&#039;s comments about the bridge behind Ray&#039;s house, and his way off reference to one of the eastern bridges linking to Queens. They went north and had to cross the Hudson River to get to CT and then up to Boston, Ray had said, so I don&#039;t know what Resh was thinking. Wikipedia mentions they were in Newark, but they used the Bayonne Bridge for that shot, and the first emerging alien craft came out of the streets of Newark. See [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Worlds_(2005_movie)]here[/url]. They also mention errors and gaffs. (BTW, Seth Shostak seems a cool guy).

I agree that it was a &quot;fun&quot; movie, but in no way did it feel anything like the 1953 movie, which was heavy on the religious overtones, and the obvious glaring errors regarding what electronics worked or didn&#039;t work required the same suspension of belief that made you think, &quot;Why are those people stupidly standing on the edge of cracking pavement when they should be running like hell?&quot; Still, the alien tripods were menacing, and the suspense was about right. At least it was enough that afterwards driving in a convertible under the night sky, I was imagining these tripods hovering above, so it worked for me.

Otoh, the basement sequence with Tim Robbins dragged on a bit too long, and the aliens were too &quot;cute&quot; while spinning the bicycle wheel, and rummaging for snacks--it took away from the eeriness of the prior snake-like probe--a useless inclusion. Didn&#039;t they eat some human food? How smart is that? I agree, less seen is better. The ending, too, was incredibly weak, and seemed slapped together, and the father/son/dysfunctional family wrap-up too sappy, and insulting to the viewer.

Two good creepy scenes: the flaming train, and the dead bodies floating down the Hudson River. The sort of &quot;Night of the Living Dead&quot; mob scene with the van was OK, too, in showing that people go stark raving mad in crises. All in all, it was entertaining enough, but Spielberg could have done much better. The FX were good, but I didn&#039;t care about the characters.

As far as the Tom Cruise hoopla--if I based my movie going on actors&#039; personal opinions or ideologies, I&#039;d see few films. There are too many hands in a movie, especially the FX people and editors, (the most important in this genre) that it would be cutting one&#039;s nose to spite one&#039;s face, and pointless, you&#039;d just be punishing a whole lot of people for one person&#039;s ideas apart from the film, and achieving little, unless your aim is to want Cruise to never get a job again...Cruise already got his cash. Besides, there are many people, scientists included, that we claim as &quot;heroes&quot; that were or are jerks in a variety of ways or supported immoral endeavors. Whatever.&#039; matched HTTP: --&gt;



I heard the radio show, then saw the movie the next night, and recalled Vincent Resh&#039;s comments about the bridge behind Ray&#039;s house, and his way off reference to one of the eastern bridges linking to Queens. They went north and had to cross the Hudson River to get to CT and then up to Boston, Ray had said, so I don&#039;t know what Resh was thinking. Wikipedia mentions they were in Newark, but they used the Bayonne Bridge for that shot, and the first emerging alien craft came out of the streets of Newark. See [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Worlds_(2005_movie)]here[/url]. They also mention errors and gaffs. (BTW, Seth Shostak seems a cool guy).

I agree that it was a &quot;fun&quot; movie, but in no way did it feel anything like the 1953 movie, which was heavy on the religious overtones, and the obvious glaring errors regarding what electronics worked or didn&#039;t work required the same suspension of belief that made you think, &quot;Why are those people stupidly standing on the edge of cracking pavement when they should be running like hell?&quot; Still, the alien tripods were menacing, and the suspense was about right. At least it was enough that afterwards driving in a convertible under the night sky, I was imagining these tripods hovering above, so it worked for me.

Otoh, the basement sequence with Tim Robbins dragged on a bit too long, and the aliens were too &quot;cute&quot; while spinning the bicycle wheel, and rummaging for snacks--it took away from the eeriness of the prior snake-like probe--a useless inclusion. Didn&#039;t they eat some human food? How smart is that? I agree, less seen is better. The ending, too, was incredibly weak, and seemed slapped together, and the father/son/dysfunctional family wrap-up too sappy, and insulting to the viewer.

Two good creepy scenes: the flaming train, and the dead bodies floating down the Hudson River. The sort of &quot;Night of the Living Dead&quot; mob scene with the van was OK, too, in showing that people go stark raving mad in crises. All in all, it was entertaining enough, but Spielberg could have done much better. The FX were good, but I didn&#039;t care about the characters.

As far as the Tom Cruise hoopla--if I based my movie going on actors&#039; personal opinions or ideologies, I&#039;d see few films. There are too many hands in a movie, especially the FX people and editors, (the most important in this genre) that it would be cutting one&#039;s nose to spite one&#039;s face, and pointless, you&#039;d just be punishing a whole lot of people for one person&#039;s ideas apart from the film, and achieving little, unless your aim is to want Cruise to never get a job again...Cruise already got his cash. Besides, there are many people, scientists included, that we claim as &quot;heroes&quot; that were or are jerks in a variety of ways or supported immoral endeavors. Whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- spamk    : Comment text: 'I heard the radio show, then saw the movie the next night, and recalled Vincent Resh's comments about the bridge behind Ray's house, and his way off reference to one of the eastern bridges linking to Queens. They went north and had to cross the Hudson River to get to CT and then up to Boston, Ray had said, so I don't know what Resh was thinking. Wikipedia mentions they were in Newark, but they used the Bayonne Bridge for that shot, and the first emerging alien craft came out of the streets of Newark. See [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Worlds_(2005_movie)]here[/url]. They also mention errors and gaffs. (BTW, Seth Shostak seems a cool guy).</p>
<p>I agree that it was a "fun" movie, but in no way did it feel anything like the 1953 movie, which was heavy on the religious overtones, and the obvious glaring errors regarding what electronics worked or didn't work required the same suspension of belief that made you think, "Why are those people stupidly standing on the edge of cracking pavement when they should be running like hell?" Still, the alien tripods were menacing, and the suspense was about right. At least it was enough that afterwards driving in a convertible under the night sky, I was imagining these tripods hovering above, so it worked for me.</p>
<p>Otoh, the basement sequence with Tim Robbins dragged on a bit too long, and the aliens were too "cute" while spinning the bicycle wheel, and rummaging for snacks--it took away from the eeriness of the prior snake-like probe--a useless inclusion. Didn't they eat some human food? How smart is that? I agree, less seen is better. The ending, too, was incredibly weak, and seemed slapped together, and the father/son/dysfunctional family wrap-up too sappy, and insulting to the viewer.</p>
<p>Two good creepy scenes: the flaming train, and the dead bodies floating down the Hudson River. The sort of "Night of the Living Dead" mob scene with the van was OK, too, in showing that people go stark raving mad in crises. All in all, it was entertaining enough, but Spielberg could have done much better. The FX were good, but I didn't care about the characters.</p>
<p>As far as the Tom Cruise hoopla--if I based my movie going on actors' personal opinions or ideologies, I'd see few films. There are too many hands in a movie, especially the FX people and editors, (the most important in this genre) that it would be cutting one's nose to spite one's face, and pointless, you'd just be punishing a whole lot of people for one person's ideas apart from the film, and achieving little, unless your aim is to want Cruise to never get a job again...Cruise already got his cash. Besides, there are many people, scientists included, that we claim as "heroes" that were or are jerks in a variety of ways or supported immoral endeavors. Whatever.' matched HTTP: --></p>
<p>I heard the radio show, then saw the movie the next night, and recalled Vincent Resh&#8217;s comments about the bridge behind Ray&#8217;s house, and his way off reference to one of the eastern bridges linking to Queens. They went north and had to cross the Hudson River to get to CT and then up to Boston, Ray had said, so I don&#8217;t know what Resh was thinking. Wikipedia mentions they were in Newark, but they used the Bayonne Bridge for that shot, and the first emerging alien craft came out of the streets of Newark. See [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Worlds_(2005_movie)]here[/url]. They also mention errors and gaffs. (BTW, Seth Shostak seems a cool guy).</p>
<p>I agree that it was a &#8220;fun&#8221; movie, but in no way did it feel anything like the 1953 movie, which was heavy on the religious overtones, and the obvious glaring errors regarding what electronics worked or didn&#8217;t work required the same suspension of belief that made you think, &#8220;Why are those people stupidly standing on the edge of cracking pavement when they should be running like hell?&#8221; Still, the alien tripods were menacing, and the suspense was about right. At least it was enough that afterwards driving in a convertible under the night sky, I was imagining these tripods hovering above, so it worked for me.</p>
<p>Otoh, the basement sequence with Tim Robbins dragged on a bit too long, and the aliens were too &#8220;cute&#8221; while spinning the bicycle wheel, and rummaging for snacks&#8211;it took away from the eeriness of the prior snake-like probe&#8211;a useless inclusion. Didn&#8217;t they eat some human food? How smart is that? I agree, less seen is better. The ending, too, was incredibly weak, and seemed slapped together, and the father/son/dysfunctional family wrap-up too sappy, and insulting to the viewer.</p>
<p>Two good creepy scenes: the flaming train, and the dead bodies floating down the Hudson River. The sort of &#8220;Night of the Living Dead&#8221; mob scene with the van was OK, too, in showing that people go stark raving mad in crises. All in all, it was entertaining enough, but Spielberg could have done much better. The FX were good, but I didn&#8217;t care about the characters.</p>
<p>As far as the Tom Cruise hoopla&#8211;if I based my movie going on actors&#8217; personal opinions or ideologies, I&#8217;d see few films. There are too many hands in a movie, especially the FX people and editors, (the most important in this genre) that it would be cutting one&#8217;s nose to spite one&#8217;s face, and pointless, you&#8217;d just be punishing a whole lot of people for one person&#8217;s ideas apart from the film, and achieving little, unless your aim is to want Cruise to never get a job again&#8230;Cruise already got his cash. Besides, there are many people, scientists included, that we claim as &#8220;heroes&#8221; that were or are jerks in a variety of ways or supported immoral endeavors. Whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: Å¬alabioâ€½</title>
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		<dc:creator>Å¬alabioâ€½</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2005 19:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You state that you do not have the book and you do not want to rrad the book off of the screen.  Â¿Why do not you try Text-To-Speech.  I find I can get twice as much done by letting my computer read to me something while I use my eyes for doing work.  That is how I read â€œWar of the Worldsâ€? â€” Herbert George Wells.  As I write this, my computer reads email â€” I hate those idiots metooing like brain-dead AOLers (one line of stating â€œÂ¡Me Too!â€? followed by hundreds of needlessly quoted lines of text taking hours to read).  You can get the text at Gutenberg.Net or if that is swamped, WikiSource.Org:

	HTTP://Gutenberg.org/etext/36

	HTTP://WikiSource.org/wiki/The_War_of_the_Worlds

	The machines are much closer to those of the book.  Those 30-meter tall machines are scary.  The book is the earliest example of directed energy-weapons and chemical warfare (the Martians wiped out all of London â€” over 5 million people â€” in less than an hour by gassing the city).  The book also contains a message about hubris:

	The Martians exterminate all disease, so did not even consider it â€” to their great chagrin.  Many felt that antibiotics will eliminate all disease, but all of this Darwinian stress just lead to the Darwinian evolution of antibiotic resistant bacteria.

	One can assume something about the evolution of the movie-aliens from their appearance in the movie (assume makes an ASS of yoU and ME).  The Their distant ancestors appear to have been trilaterally symmetrical.  Their ancestors evolved from trilaterally into bilaterally symmetrical creatures probably for locomotion; although they still have much trilateral symmetry.  As a refreshing surprise, they do not appear to fit into any earthy phylum.

	The movie was a good movie but could have been better.

	â˜†â˜†â˜†</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You state that you do not have the book and you do not want to rrad the book off of the screen.  Â¿Why do not you try Text-To-Speech.  I find I can get twice as much done by letting my computer read to me something while I use my eyes for doing work.  That is how I read â€œWar of the Worldsâ€? â€” Herbert George Wells.  As I write this, my computer reads email â€” I hate those idiots metooing like brain-dead AOLers (one line of stating â€œÂ¡Me Too!â€? followed by hundreds of needlessly quoted lines of text taking hours to read).  You can get the text at Gutenberg.Net or if that is swamped, WikiSource.Org:</p>
<p>	HTTP://Gutenberg.org/etext/36</p>
<p>	HTTP://WikiSource.org/wiki/The_War_of_the_Worlds</p>
<p>	The machines are much closer to those of the book.  Those 30-meter tall machines are scary.  The book is the earliest example of directed energy-weapons and chemical warfare (the Martians wiped out all of London â€” over 5 million people â€” in less than an hour by gassing the city).  The book also contains a message about hubris:</p>
<p>	The Martians exterminate all disease, so did not even consider it â€” to their great chagrin.  Many felt that antibiotics will eliminate all disease, but all of this Darwinian stress just lead to the Darwinian evolution of antibiotic resistant bacteria.</p>
<p>	One can assume something about the evolution of the movie-aliens from their appearance in the movie (assume makes an ASS of yoU and ME).  The Their distant ancestors appear to have been trilaterally symmetrical.  Their ancestors evolved from trilaterally into bilaterally symmetrical creatures probably for locomotion; although they still have much trilateral symmetry.  As a refreshing surprise, they do not appear to fit into any earthy phylum.</p>
<p>	The movie was a good movie but could have been better.</p>
<p>	â˜†â˜†â˜†</p>
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		<title>By: Alisha D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alisha D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2005 15:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the first half of the movie was a masterpiece of terror, suspense, and drama. I thought I walked into the wrong movie it was so good. I honestly was expecting another disappointing ID4. The latter half lost me a bit but overall a very thrilling movie. Like Jorge, I too was a bit surprised that the aliens were defeated with Jeff Goldblum nowhere to be seen in the picture...puzzling. Too bad the movie wasn&#039;t more macro focused than micro all the time.
Also, I was hoping the aliens would flush them out of the cellar sooner so the movie could get going again. Maybe if Timothy Robbins had offered to do the aliens taxes in exchange for some suds an outright invasion may have been averted and a new intergalactic friendship formed. It&#039;s not like he had to worry about being pushed off a rooftop or anything, he was in a cellar.

Yes, Tom Cruise is nuts for believing in Scientology. I wish he had my grounding in reality.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the first half of the movie was a masterpiece of terror, suspense, and drama. I thought I walked into the wrong movie it was so good. I honestly was expecting another disappointing ID4. The latter half lost me a bit but overall a very thrilling movie. Like Jorge, I too was a bit surprised that the aliens were defeated with Jeff Goldblum nowhere to be seen in the picture&#8230;puzzling. Too bad the movie wasn&#8217;t more macro focused than micro all the time.<br />
Also, I was hoping the aliens would flush them out of the cellar sooner so the movie could get going again. Maybe if Timothy Robbins had offered to do the aliens taxes in exchange for some suds an outright invasion may have been averted and a new intergalactic friendship formed. It&#8217;s not like he had to worry about being pushed off a rooftop or anything, he was in a cellar.</p>
<p>Yes, Tom Cruise is nuts for believing in Scientology. I wish he had my grounding in reality.  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: CR</title>
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		<dc:creator>CR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 06:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw &quot;Five Million Years to Earth&quot; when I was around 8 or 9 years old (back in the 1970&#039;s), and was very impressed by how intelligently written  it was; even though fantastic things occurred throughout, it was internally consistent and held my attention. (Slow? A bit, but that&#039;s what helped make it believable. And trust me, the end is anything but slow!)
I&#039;d almost like to see a faithful remake of this flick, but I doubt that it could match the original. In any event, I MUST get this on dvd... can&#039;t believe it&#039;s not a part of my collection yet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw &#8220;Five Million Years to Earth&#8221; when I was around 8 or 9 years old (back in the 1970&#8217;s), and was very impressed by how intelligently written  it was; even though fantastic things occurred throughout, it was internally consistent and held my attention. (Slow? A bit, but that&#8217;s what helped make it believable. And trust me, the end is anything but slow!)<br />
I&#8217;d almost like to see a faithful remake of this flick, but I doubt that it could match the original. In any event, I MUST get this on dvd&#8230; can&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s not a part of my collection yet!</p>
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