Comments on: Rights

By: Axiom

Axiom — Tue, 12 Sep 2006 02:13:36 +0000

Three months after this post, I swore “… against all enemies, foreign and domestic …”. Re-reading this post makes me even happier that I made the choice that I did.

By: Irishman

Irishman — Mon, 19 Sep 2005 16:28:03 +0000

Eudaimon Said:
>Actually, (in my opinion) since Al-Qaeda is against the absolutist Saudi government, and dislikes the United States for only one reason, not so much as the fact they dislike our constitution, but more of the fact they dislike the fact we fund an absolutist Wahhabist monarchy similar to the rule of King James in the early 1600â€™s. They arenâ€™t really against democratic elements or a constitution, I donâ€™t know whether they support it, but they dislike the Saudi monarchy because itâ€™s entangled itself in religious affairs, suppressed the rights of women and numerous of other things that reformers want to change.

Wait, a Wahhabist group dislikes the Saudi government for being Wahhabist? I’m confused. You are correct that many Saudi’s don’t like their government, and don’t like the U.S. for supporting the current Saudi government. I’m not so certain you are correct about the factors about that government that they don’t like, however.

Extremists don’t like the U.S. for a number of reasons. We push our agenda on other countries, we use our military might to push them around. We support dictators and kings against the will of the people when it is advantageous to our country. Our government is secular, and specifically not Islamic. Our culture is very open and to their mindset decadent and sinful.

>…the first thing to do is stop supporting totalitarian regimes like the monarchy in Saudi Arabia, which is undemocratic in itself, and the support of which continues to draw fire from many reformers.

That is true, it is rather hypocritical of the U.S. to be celebrating bringing democracy to Iraq when we are a large part of maintaining the current Saudi monarchy. If spreading democracy is so important, why isn’t Bush leaning on the Saudi’s for democratic reforms?

By: Sparky

Sparky — Mon, 19 Sep 2005 06:36:38 +0000

Good on yer.

By: P. Edward Murray

P. Edward Murray — Sun, 18 Sep 2005 14:16:03 +0000

Bin Laden & Al Queda want one thing:

To impose “Their” version of Islam on everyone that does not believe by returning to the 14th Century “Caliphate”, a return, in a sense to The Ottoman Empire.

By: M Duke

M Duke — Sat, 17 Sep 2005 18:47:15 +0000

By what the response was to what I said, I don’t think I expressed my point well. It was just simply that, in politics, a leader must give a reason to attack, even if it is not true. Also, it doesn’t matter if it aplies to the Bush administration. It may more acuratly be shown with Octavian lying (as far as we know) to the Roman senate to justify his attack on Cleopatra. If he just attacked, the senate would probably not have been happy with him.

I also must ask: just what is the flying spaggetti monster thing anyway?

By: Eudaimon

Eudaimon — Sat, 17 Sep 2005 00:38:30 +0000

Actually, (in my opinion) since Al-Qaeda is against the absolutist Saudi government, and dislikes the United States for only one reason, not so much as the fact they dislike our constitution, but more of the fact they dislike the fact we fund an absolutist Wahhabist monarchy similar to the rule of King James in the early 1600’s. They aren’t really against democratic elements or a constitution, I don’t know whether they support it, but they dislike the Saudi monarchy because it’s entangled itself in religious affairs, suppressed the rights of women and numerous of other things that reformers want to change.

Then, Osama decided to choose violence. In the end it’s all pretty oxymoronic, as it will be self-defeating, but the first thing to do is stop supporting totalitarian regimes like the monarchy in Saudi Arabia, which is undemocratic in itself, and the support of which continues to draw fire from many reformers.

By: Kevin

Kevin — Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:16:59 +0000

MattJ

“You were DEAD RIGHT and donâ€™t let anyone tell you differently”

You must not have read the letter. The letter poses two questions.”(Q1) Why are we fighting and opposing you?” and “Q2)What are we calling you to, and what do we want from you? ”

The answer to Q1 : Because you attacked us and continue to attack us. As part of the answer to Q2, 12 paragraphs down, talking about how we are the “worst” nation…is the line you quote. Pretty thin reed.

Anyway, the only reason to care why OSBL attacked is to consider how to turn people away from these attacks in the future. He needs to be hunted down and killed, but WE REALLY CANT just go around and kill everyone because they feel oppressed and angry….and may become a terrorist.

And we can’t do it because we are depressed and angry…and want to get our hands on oil.

Irishman, Nigel you see that our goverments are out of control.

> (ABCâ€™s â€œGood Morning Americaâ€?, Sep 4th, co-host Bill Weir even stated â€œthere are no atheists in hurricane zones or foxholesâ€?),

geez…another idiot…I’m gonna send this over to Eschaton