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	<title>Comments on: Falcon 1 lost due to fuel leak</title>
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		<title>By: SpaceTechsOnline.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Today: The First Test Launch of the SpaceX Astronaut Taxi &#124; 80beats</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpaceTechsOnline.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Today: The First Test Launch of the SpaceX Astronaut Taxi &#124; 80beats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] big wish list, since many first launches have failed, including several of SpaceX&#8217;s own early attempts with the Falcon 9&#8217;s predecessor, the smaller Falcon 1 rocket. So SpaceX company founder Elon [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] big wish list, since many first launches have failed, including several of SpaceX&#8217;s own early attempts with the Falcon 9&#8217;s predecessor, the smaller Falcon 1 rocket. So SpaceX company founder Elon [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Star*liter</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/03/25/falcon-1-lost-due-to-fuel-leak/comment-page-1/#comment-13173</link>
		<dc:creator>Star*liter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 20:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YOU FEDS ARE ALL THE SAME- NFG.</description>
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		<title>By: schwa sticker</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/03/25/falcon-1-lost-due-to-fuel-leak/comment-page-1/#comment-13179</link>
		<dc:creator>schwa sticker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 16:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Loosing that first Falcon was sad. It does seem odd that they launched their first real payload on their first test flight. They seem to have adequate funding, so hopefully this wonâ€™t endanger Space Exploration Technologiesâ€™ survival.&quot;

They fired the Falcon from a bow?  That doesn&#039;t sound like adequate funding to me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Loosing that first Falcon was sad. It does seem odd that they launched their first real payload on their first test flight. They seem to have adequate funding, so hopefully this wonâ€™t endanger Space Exploration Technologiesâ€™ survival.&#8221;</p>
<p>They fired the Falcon from a bow?  That doesn&#8217;t sound like adequate funding to me!</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Langevin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/03/25/falcon-1-lost-due-to-fuel-leak/comment-page-1/#comment-13162</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Langevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 12:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see where someone said they should have launched with a dummy payload. The problem with that is, you dont use the same booster a second time. Each launch is a crap shoot. I have worked in the Aerospace industry for over 30 years and have seen a lot of &quot;proven&quot; boosters blow up during launch. Titan 3s and 4s as well as Atlases and Deltas. Each booster is nothing more than a very controlled (we hope) explosion bomb. The problem is when they get out of control and go BOOM!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see where someone said they should have launched with a dummy payload. The problem with that is, you dont use the same booster a second time. Each launch is a crap shoot. I have worked in the Aerospace industry for over 30 years and have seen a lot of &#8220;proven&#8221; boosters blow up during launch. Titan 3s and 4s as well as Atlases and Deltas. Each booster is nothing more than a very controlled (we hope) explosion bomb. The problem is when they get out of control and go BOOM!!</p>
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		<title>By: Blake Stacey</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/03/25/falcon-1-lost-due-to-fuel-leak/comment-page-1/#comment-13163</link>
		<dc:creator>Blake Stacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 12:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ioresult:

Technically, Ariane 5 destroyed &lt;i&gt;itself&lt;/i&gt; when it went bad -- the people on the ground had no idea what was coming.  The space shuttle &lt;a href=&quot;http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/technology/sts-newsref/srb.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;also has destruct charges,&lt;/a&gt; three &quot;Range Safety Systems&quot; (one in each SRB and one in the external tank), which are used &quot;only when the shuttle vehicle violates a launch trajectory red line&quot;, whatever that means translated out of NASA-speak.  The decision about whether or not to put the destruct charges on the shuttle had some politics behind it, which Richard Feynman talked about in &lt;i&gt;What Do You Care What Other People Think?,&lt;/i&gt; apropos his adventures on the &lt;i&gt;Challenger&lt;/i&gt; investigative commission.

Melusine:

Nice rant.  (-:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ioresult:</p>
<p>Technically, Ariane 5 destroyed <i>itself</i> when it went bad &#8212; the people on the ground had no idea what was coming.  The space shuttle <a href="http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/technology/sts-newsref/srb.html" rel="nofollow">also has destruct charges,</a> three &#8220;Range Safety Systems&#8221; (one in each SRB and one in the external tank), which are used &#8220;only when the shuttle vehicle violates a launch trajectory red line&#8221;, whatever that means translated out of NASA-speak.  The decision about whether or not to put the destruct charges on the shuttle had some politics behind it, which Richard Feynman talked about in <i>What Do You Care What Other People Think?,</i> apropos his adventures on the <i>Challenger</i> investigative commission.</p>
<p>Melusine:</p>
<p>Nice rant.  (-:</p>
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		<title>By: Melusine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melusine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;dre Says:

March 26th, 2006 at 9:39 pm
The link in the post mentions that the rocket landed on a â€œdead reefâ€. I donâ€™t know what that means, but it might answer the several questions in these comments.&lt;/i&gt;

A dead reef means just that: instead of colorful biodiversity it&#039;s just dull rock coral. Sure, fish may still hide out there, but it&#039;s not teeming with life as in live reefs (which are part of that atoll). You can see dead vs live &lt;a href=&quot;http://gallery.marinephotobank.org/objects/view.acs?object_id=761&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;

You can read an environmental impact study about Space X and Omelek Island; they&#039;ve had to take all sorts of precautions to not disturb the native life, appropriately dispose of water, tent the run-off pond so birds don&#039;t land in it; fence the beach area 328 feet on either side of the pad so turtles will stay away from the area, and so on. People are evacuated off the island, all materials are inspected for non-native life (construction materials, et al) before going on the island (don&#039;t want rats and such), and a respect for native life is mandated. They feel the risk would be seldom enough not to be a major problem to the atoll.

Sure, it&#039;s never pleasant when marine life gets clobbered, but there are many more consistent practices, e.g. cruise ships, tankers, military sonar testing, that are MUCH more major than the occasional rocket failure. [ok, a little rant there] :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>dre Says:</p>
<p>March 26th, 2006 at 9:39 pm<br />
The link in the post mentions that the rocket landed on a â€œdead reefâ€. I donâ€™t know what that means, but it might answer the several questions in these comments.</i></p>
<p>A dead reef means just that: instead of colorful biodiversity it&#8217;s just dull rock coral. Sure, fish may still hide out there, but it&#8217;s not teeming with life as in live reefs (which are part of that atoll). You can see dead vs live <a href="http://gallery.marinephotobank.org/objects/view.acs?object_id=761" rel="nofollow">here.</a></p>
<p>You can read an environmental impact study about Space X and Omelek Island; they&#8217;ve had to take all sorts of precautions to not disturb the native life, appropriately dispose of water, tent the run-off pond so birds don&#8217;t land in it; fence the beach area 328 feet on either side of the pad so turtles will stay away from the area, and so on. People are evacuated off the island, all materials are inspected for non-native life (construction materials, et al) before going on the island (don&#8217;t want rats and such), and a respect for native life is mandated. They feel the risk would be seldom enough not to be a major problem to the atoll.</p>
<p>Sure, it&#8217;s never pleasant when marine life gets clobbered, but there are many more consistent practices, e.g. cruise ships, tankers, military sonar testing, that are MUCH more major than the occasional rocket failure. [ok, a little rant there] <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Robert Merkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Merkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SpaceX&#039;s rocket unit costs are about $6.7 million a pop, according to their website, and launching by anyone else would have cost more.  The satellite they were to launch is only cost $800,000, and was a student project.  At that price, it seems perfectly reasonable to whack that payload on it even if it had, say, only a 1/3 chance of successfully launching.

Besides, having a real payload on it was probably a handy psychological motivator for the SpaceX crew.  If there wasn&#039;t a payload on there, the temptation might have been to treat it as a test run, and no big deal if they fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SpaceX&#8217;s rocket unit costs are about $6.7 million a pop, according to their website, and launching by anyone else would have cost more.  The satellite they were to launch is only cost $800,000, and was a student project.  At that price, it seems perfectly reasonable to whack that payload on it even if it had, say, only a 1/3 chance of successfully launching.</p>
<p>Besides, having a real payload on it was probably a handy psychological motivator for the SpaceX crew.  If there wasn&#8217;t a payload on there, the temptation might have been to treat it as a test run, and no big deal if they fail.</p>
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		<title>By: ioresult</title>
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		<dc:creator>ioresult</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 05:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought common practice was to build rockets capable of self-destruction just in case something like that happened. Prevents whole rockets full of fuel from falling down on people&#039;s heads and machine shops and coral reefs. I beleive they destroyed Ariane 5 in mid flight when it went bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought common practice was to build rockets capable of self-destruction just in case something like that happened. Prevents whole rockets full of fuel from falling down on people&#8217;s heads and machine shops and coral reefs. I beleive they destroyed Ariane 5 in mid flight when it went bad.</p>
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		<title>By: dre</title>
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		<dc:creator>dre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 04:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The link in the post mentions that the rocket landed on a &quot;dead reef&quot;. I don&#039;t know what that means, but it might answer the several questions in these comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link in the post mentions that the rocket landed on a &#8220;dead reef&#8221;. I don&#8217;t know what that means, but it might answer the several questions in these comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Karnalis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karnalis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 04:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin from NYC beat me to it.  I was thinking the same thing.</description>
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		<title>By: Kevin from NYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin from NYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 03:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The good news is it fell on a reef offshore,

errr that dosn&#039;t sound good for the reef......

or the fish....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The good news is it fell on a reef offshore,</p>
<p>errr that dosn&#8217;t sound good for the reef&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>or the fish&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Melusine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/03/25/falcon-1-lost-due-to-fuel-leak/comment-page-1/#comment-13155</link>
		<dc:creator>Melusine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 23:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Blake Stacey:

This is completely off-topic, but what do people think about the creationist plagiarist who got caught in the act? (Hey, â€œcreationist plagiaristâ€ â€” that has a sort of ring to it.)&lt;/i&gt;

Lies are created only by man. Ironic. Not a very original thinker. [fill in all the blanks]

Lucky about the machine shop. Hope people don&#039;t get paranoid about falling rocket parts. 250 feet away from the pad...not good. BTW, that&#039;s not a very significant reef--it&#039;ll be OK. Besides all the cruise ships are killing the area anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Blake Stacey:</p>
<p>This is completely off-topic, but what do people think about the creationist plagiarist who got caught in the act? (Hey, â€œcreationist plagiaristâ€ â€” that has a sort of ring to it.)</i></p>
<p>Lies are created only by man. Ironic. Not a very original thinker. [fill in all the blanks]</p>
<p>Lucky about the machine shop. Hope people don&#8217;t get paranoid about falling rocket parts. 250 feet away from the pad&#8230;not good. BTW, that&#8217;s not a very significant reef&#8211;it&#8217;ll be OK. Besides all the cruise ships are killing the area anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Blake Stacey</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/03/25/falcon-1-lost-due-to-fuel-leak/comment-page-1/#comment-13156</link>
		<dc:creator>Blake Stacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all fun and games until someone loses an eye. . . .

Though the worst rocket accident I&#039;ve personally witnessed happened when my roommate was propelling two-liter soda bottles by filling them with a water-liquid nitrogen mix.  It&#039;s not explosive; it just boils really well.  And firing them off your thumb while drunk is, ahem, contraindicated.

I had never considered &quot;tearing a piece off my thumb&quot; a possibility.

Switching tracks -- I&#039;m very glad to hear that someone else has seen a parallel between the two Ds.  I was starting to think that my years of wild hedonism had caught up with me and made me see double.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all fun and games until someone loses an eye. . . .</p>
<p>Though the worst rocket accident I&#8217;ve personally witnessed happened when my roommate was propelling two-liter soda bottles by filling them with a water-liquid nitrogen mix.  It&#8217;s not explosive; it just boils really well.  And firing them off your thumb while drunk is, ahem, contraindicated.</p>
<p>I had never considered &#8220;tearing a piece off my thumb&#8221; a possibility.</p>
<p>Switching tracks &#8212; I&#8217;m very glad to hear that someone else has seen a parallel between the two Ds.  I was starting to think that my years of wild hedonism had caught up with me and made me see double.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the payload was a DARPA/Air Force satellite. I would expect this wasn&#039;t insured as it generally doesn&#039;t make economic sense for governments to insure launches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the payload was a DARPA/Air Force satellite. I would expect this wasn&#8217;t insured as it generally doesn&#8217;t make economic sense for governments to insure launches.</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/03/25/falcon-1-lost-due-to-fuel-leak/comment-page-1/#comment-13158</link>
		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be careful, you&#039;ll put your eye out, kid!

...Reminds me of some of my model rocket flights.</description>
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<p>&#8230;Reminds me of some of my model rocket flights.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Manning</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/03/25/falcon-1-lost-due-to-fuel-leak/comment-page-1/#comment-13159</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Manning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loosing that first Falcon was sad.  It does seem odd that they launched their first real payload on their first test flight.  They seem to have adequate funding, so hopefully this won&#039;t endanger Space Exploration Technologies&#039; survival.

It is regrettable that it hit a reef.  Let&#039;s hope that the local environmental regulations are sensible, and that this doesn&#039;t happen again.

A lot of good things will start happening once we start reducing the cost of getting mass to orbit again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loosing that first Falcon was sad.  It does seem odd that they launched their first real payload on their first test flight.  They seem to have adequate funding, so hopefully this won&#8217;t endanger Space Exploration Technologies&#8217; survival.</p>
<p>It is regrettable that it hit a reef.  Let&#8217;s hope that the local environmental regulations are sensible, and that this doesn&#8217;t happen again.</p>
<p>A lot of good things will start happening once we start reducing the cost of getting mass to orbit again.</p>
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		<title>By: The Bad Astronomer</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Bad Astronomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blake, the parallels with Ben Domenech and George Deutsch are positively eerie, if you&#039;re prone to that sort of thing. :-) I&#039;ve been too busy to write about it, but I still might.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blake, the parallels with Ben Domenech and George Deutsch are positively eerie, if you&#8217;re prone to that sort of thing. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;ve been too busy to write about it, but I still might.</p>
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		<title>By: Phobos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phobos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll echo PK&#039;s reef concern (and still be for the program overall).  Never mind the direct impact...but the spewing of the remaining rocket fuel all over the reef.  Another one of those and you&#039;ll have government agencies shutting down the program.  Either that, or the cost of cleanup will bankrupt the program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll echo PK&#8217;s reef concern (and still be for the program overall).  Never mind the direct impact&#8230;but the spewing of the remaining rocket fuel all over the reef.  Another one of those and you&#8217;ll have government agencies shutting down the program.  Either that, or the cost of cleanup will bankrupt the program.</p>
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		<title>By: David Spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 12:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The satellite was a cadet-built satellite from the U.S. Air Force Academy.  These satellites are built on a shoe string budget, and are as much as an educational exercise in building a satellite as they are something that will gather lots of scientific data.  While no doubt that the cadets and their faculty advisors are extremely disappointed that the booster failed, the students did get an excellent educational experience in building this satellite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The satellite was a cadet-built satellite from the U.S. Air Force Academy.  These satellites are built on a shoe string budget, and are as much as an educational exercise in building a satellite as they are something that will gather lots of scientific data.  While no doubt that the cadets and their faculty advisors are extremely disappointed that the booster failed, the students did get an excellent educational experience in building this satellite.</p>
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		<title>By: Blake Stacey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blake Stacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully, this won&#039;t turn out to be due to an overflow error in the guidance computer, like what happened with that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ima.umn.edu/~arnold/disasters/ariane.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ariane 5 rocket&lt;/a&gt; in 1996.

This is completely off-topic, but what do people think about the &lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/03/ben_domenech_creationist.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;creationist plagiarist&lt;/a&gt; who got caught in the act?  (Hey, &quot;creationist plagiarist&quot; -- that has a sort of ring to it.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully, this won&#8217;t turn out to be due to an overflow error in the guidance computer, like what happened with that <a href="http://www.ima.umn.edu/~arnold/disasters/ariane.html" rel="nofollow">Ariane 5 rocket</a> in 1996.</p>
<p>This is completely off-topic, but what do people think about the <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/03/ben_domenech_creationist.php" rel="nofollow">creationist plagiarist</a> who got caught in the act?  (Hey, &#8220;creationist plagiarist&#8221; &#8212; that has a sort of ring to it.)</p>
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		<title>By: PK</title>
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		<dc:creator>PK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 09:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure I&#039;m altogether happy that this thing landed in a reef.  Of course, it&#039;s an accident, and nobody planned it. But  you don&#039;t play baseball next to the china. How bad is the damage on the reef?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;m altogether happy that this thing landed in a reef.  Of course, it&#8217;s an accident, and nobody planned it. But  you don&#8217;t play baseball next to the china. How bad is the damage on the reef?</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 06:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i feel like i&#039;m seeing the making of moonraker......thats some pretty stiff wind....almost hurricane like....i missed the webcast launch but i&#039;m glad to find out these guys are going to try again</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i feel like i&#8217;m seeing the making of moonraker&#8230;&#8230;thats some pretty stiff wind&#8230;.almost hurricane like&#8230;.i missed the webcast launch but i&#8217;m glad to find out these guys are going to try again</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Siefert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Siefert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it&#039;s a design flaw, other flaws will have been inherited down the chain and the problem could turn out to take a while to fix.

If it&#039;s a matter of a couple of bolts not being tightened, then it&#039;s a sign of lax procedures and other problems will most likely arise.

During the web cast of the launch, I noticed a tent in the foreground being blown apart from the exhaust. That just seemed plain amateurish to me, even if it was planned. As much as I love explosions and things being blown apart, it just doesn&#039;t seem right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it&#8217;s a design flaw, other flaws will have been inherited down the chain and the problem could turn out to take a while to fix.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s a matter of a couple of bolts not being tightened, then it&#8217;s a sign of lax procedures and other problems will most likely arise.</p>
<p>During the web cast of the launch, I noticed a tent in the foreground being blown apart from the exhaust. That just seemed plain amateurish to me, even if it was planned. As much as I love explosions and things being blown apart, it just doesn&#8217;t seem right.</p>
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		<title>By: KingNor</title>
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		<dc:creator>KingNor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if this had killed someone coming down, what would happend to civilian space flight?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if this had killed someone coming down, what would happend to civilian space flight?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 04:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TBC:

i think cost was the deciding factor with no test launch, and actual paying launches are insured iirc. so it&#039;s not actually that big a loss except as far as potential-customer confidence goes.

/actually now that i think about it, it might only be the payload that&#039;s insured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TBC:</p>
<p>i think cost was the deciding factor with no test launch, and actual paying launches are insured iirc. so it&#8217;s not actually that big a loss except as far as potential-customer confidence goes.</p>
<p>/actually now that i think about it, it might only be the payload that&#8217;s insured.</p>
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