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	<title>Comments on: Star Trek 11: Doomed</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Stone Age Scientist</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/04/23/star-trek-11-doomed/comment-page-1/#comment-189369</link>
		<dc:creator>Stone Age Scientist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 09:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Phil, is Star Trek 11 still doomed? :) Got this link, amongst many, while using the search function. I am looking for the article where you explained the (bad) science in Star Trek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Phil, is Star Trek 11 still doomed? <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Got this link, amongst many, while using the search function. I am looking for the article where you explained the (bad) science in Star Trek.</p>
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		<title>By: JEFF BEERITZ</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/04/23/star-trek-11-doomed/comment-page-1/#comment-14409</link>
		<dc:creator>JEFF BEERITZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 18:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a strong regarding suspition about the 11th chapter of the Star Trek universe. If they have the story. A strong story which bolds, bluntly to the franchise, they should go with it. too thumbs up... Plus the movie will have a great upcoming Writter/Director. Above all, long live the Franchise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a strong regarding suspition about the 11th chapter of the Star Trek universe. If they have the story. A strong story which bolds, bluntly to the franchise, they should go with it. too thumbs up&#8230; Plus the movie will have a great upcoming Writter/Director. Above all, long live the Franchise.</p>
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		<title>By: Mungascr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mungascr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frell, sorry about that double post -that wasn&#039;t supposed to have happened!

&#039;has&#039; was intended as &#039;had&#039; at the start there &amp; well the missing spaces are obvious. [sigh]

Wish we could edit our posts on-line here ..

While on TV -SF &amp; the works of Abrams &amp; Whedon(again all IMHON &amp; please remember all art is subjective) :

&#039;Lost&#039; started well but trailed off with too many flashbacks and absurdities.

&#039;Buffy&#039; and &#039;Angel&#039; were fun with good dialogue and some nice satire - not to mention eye-candy and the odd bit to make you think.

Personally, my own favourite TV-SF shows were : &#039;Babylon5&#039;, &#039;Dr Who&#039; &amp; &#039;StarBlazers&#039; (aka &#039;Spacebattlecruiser Yamato&#039; a kids anime which took the idea of a spaceship somewhat literally but which got me hooked on SF.)

As far as finding science (or viewing pleasure) goes in all TV / movie forms of SF, my advice is take them for what they are but as &#039;Trek&#039; goes I&#039;ve got to admit I feel I&#039;ve taken enough.

Let it rest Trekkies,its been a fun ride but let it rest in peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frell, sorry about that double post -that wasn&#8217;t supposed to have happened!</p>
<p>&#8216;has&#8217; was intended as &#8216;had&#8217; at the start there &amp; well the missing spaces are obvious. [sigh]</p>
<p>Wish we could edit our posts on-line here ..</p>
<p>While on TV -SF &amp; the works of Abrams &amp; Whedon(again all IMHON &amp; please remember all art is subjective) :</p>
<p>&#8216;Lost&#8217; started well but trailed off with too many flashbacks and absurdities.</p>
<p>&#8216;Buffy&#8217; and &#8216;Angel&#8217; were fun with good dialogue and some nice satire &#8211; not to mention eye-candy and the odd bit to make you think.</p>
<p>Personally, my own favourite TV-SF shows were : &#8216;Babylon5&#8242;, &#8216;Dr Who&#8217; &amp; &#8216;StarBlazers&#8217; (aka &#8216;Spacebattlecruiser Yamato&#8217; a kids anime which took the idea of a spaceship somewhat literally but which got me hooked on SF.)</p>
<p>As far as finding science (or viewing pleasure) goes in all TV / movie forms of SF, my advice is take them for what they are but as &#8216;Trek&#8217; goes I&#8217;ve got to admit I feel I&#8217;ve taken enough.</p>
<p>Let it rest Trekkies,its been a fun ride but let it rest in peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Mungascr</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/04/23/star-trek-11-doomed/comment-page-1/#comment-14418</link>
		<dc:creator>Mungascr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Star Trek - and Istress this is of course all strictly In My Humble Opinion Naturally - would have been much better off if it has stopped forever with &#039;Voyager&#039;.

The Original Series was ground-breaking for its time.
The Next Generation was a welcome revival.
&#039;Deep Space 9&#039; &amp; &#039;Voyager&#039; had their moments ..

&#039;Enterprise&#039; -- errkkk -- contradictory and really a backward step in many more ways than just chronologically.

Movies wise - I didn&#039;t think &#039;Nemeisis&#039; was as bad as its been tarred but much preferred Isaac Asimov&#039;s eponymous novel which had nothing to do with Trek! ;)

If they were going to make another Trek movie (which I wouldn&#039;t recomend really, IMHON, the franchise has become decidedly stale and past its used-up date)then isn&#039;t it time one of the later spin-off&#039;s got the nod?

I enjoyed &#039;Serenity&#039; and &#039;Firefly&#039; but resurrecting Kirk and spock isn&#039;t CPR but necrophilia ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Star Trek &#8211; and Istress this is of course all strictly In My Humble Opinion Naturally &#8211; would have been much better off if it has stopped forever with &#8216;Voyager&#8217;.</p>
<p>The Original Series was ground-breaking for its time.<br />
The Next Generation was a welcome revival.<br />
&#8216;Deep Space 9&#8242; &amp; &#8216;Voyager&#8217; had their moments ..</p>
<p>&#8216;Enterprise&#8217; &#8212; errkkk &#8212; contradictory and really a backward step in many more ways than just chronologically.</p>
<p>Movies wise &#8211; I didn&#8217;t think &#8216;Nemeisis&#8217; was as bad as its been tarred but much preferred Isaac Asimov&#8217;s eponymous novel which had nothing to do with Trek! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If they were going to make another Trek movie (which I wouldn&#8217;t recomend really, IMHON, the franchise has become decidedly stale and past its used-up date)then isn&#8217;t it time one of the later spin-off&#8217;s got the nod?</p>
<p>I enjoyed &#8216;Serenity&#8217; and &#8216;Firefly&#8217; but resurrecting Kirk and spock isn&#8217;t CPR but necrophilia &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Irishman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 16:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Frelling&quot; is the Farscape&#039;s version of the TV Sci Fi friendly stand in for another F word expletive and emphasizer.

Battlestar Gallactica uses &quot;Frack&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Frelling&#8221; is the Farscape&#8217;s version of the TV Sci Fi friendly stand in for another F word expletive and emphasizer.</p>
<p>Battlestar Gallactica uses &#8220;Frack&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: icemith</title>
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		<dc:creator>icemith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Buzz Parsec, for putting me straight with the origin of &#039;frelling&#039;. I guess I will have to watch it as I noticed it is in our TV guide. Or did you mean the newspaper cartoon strip &#039;Farscape&#039;? I can usually expect a birthday card of that theme from my sister most years. Not really anything to do with Sci-Fi or Space though. But meaning &quot;Belgium&quot;?? I fail to see the connection, it&#039;s got to be way out.

And I would have to agree with Jack Hagerty, that &#039;2001 - A Space Odessy&#039; was/is the most realistic portrial of space conditions etc. at least until the ending. I was never perplexed by it, explaining it to others was a problem though.

Ivan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Buzz Parsec, for putting me straight with the origin of &#8216;frelling&#8217;. I guess I will have to watch it as I noticed it is in our TV guide. Or did you mean the newspaper cartoon strip &#8216;Farscape&#8217;? I can usually expect a birthday card of that theme from my sister most years. Not really anything to do with Sci-Fi or Space though. But meaning &#8220;Belgium&#8221;?? I fail to see the connection, it&#8217;s got to be way out.</p>
<p>And I would have to agree with Jack Hagerty, that &#8216;2001 &#8211; A Space Odessy&#8217; was/is the most realistic portrial of space conditions etc. at least until the ending. I was never perplexed by it, explaining it to others was a problem though.</p>
<p>Ivan.</p>
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		<title>By: Buzz Parsec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buzz Parsec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 08:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Random thoughts:

I used to love the Tom Corbett books when I was in the 4th grade... But I thought
the vacuum tube bit was a trick question on one of his exams.  I remember it
especially due to the fact that vacuum tubes were clearly obsolete at the time
(early 60&#039;s), so even in the 4th grade, it struck me as very funny.

&quot;Frelling&quot; is from &quot;Farscape&quot;.   It seems to mean about the same thing as
&quot;Belgium.&quot;

Movies are almost always worse than the book.  I wonder if this is also true
of screenplays?   The only exception I can think of to this rule is &quot;Jaws.&quot;
&quot;The DaVinci Code&quot; may also prove to be an exception, but I don&#039;t have high
hopes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Random thoughts:</p>
<p>I used to love the Tom Corbett books when I was in the 4th grade&#8230; But I thought<br />
the vacuum tube bit was a trick question on one of his exams.  I remember it<br />
especially due to the fact that vacuum tubes were clearly obsolete at the time<br />
(early 60&#8217;s), so even in the 4th grade, it struck me as very funny.</p>
<p>&#8220;Frelling&#8221; is from &#8220;Farscape&#8221;.   It seems to mean about the same thing as<br />
&#8220;Belgium.&#8221;</p>
<p>Movies are almost always worse than the book.  I wonder if this is also true<br />
of screenplays?   The only exception I can think of to this rule is &#8220;Jaws.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;The DaVinci Code&#8221; may also prove to be an exception, but I don&#8217;t have high<br />
hopes.</p>
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