Comments on: A flawed quiz about belief? I have no doubt. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/06/26/a-flawed-quiz-about-belief-i-have-no-doubt/ I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog. Sun, 05 Jul 2009 00:00:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: skeptigirl http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/06/26/a-flawed-quiz-about-belief-i-have-no-doubt/#comment-16548 skeptigirl Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:49:51 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/06/26/a-flawed-quiz-about-belief-i-have-no-doubt/#comment-16548 The last question clearly reveals the slant of the quiz. The last question clearly reveals the slant of the quiz.

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By: arensb http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/06/26/a-flawed-quiz-about-belief-i-have-no-doubt/#comment-16549 arensb Sun, 20 Aug 2006 03:14:29 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/06/26/a-flawed-quiz-about-belief-i-have-no-doubt/#comment-16549 <blockquote>I am asked all the time if I believe in the Big Bang, or if I believe in evolution. Generally, the asker is shocked when I reply "no".</blockquote> Allow me to quote from Terry Pratchett's Witches Abroad: <blockquote>Most witches don't believe in gods. They know that the gods exist, of course. They even deal with them occasionally. But they don't believe in them. They know them too well. It would be like believing in the postman.</blockquote> As for atheists being underrepresented in prisons, as much as I'd like to believe that, I'm skeptical: I suspect that what with the religiosity of the general population, and religious charities ministering to prisoners, that there's an incentive to pose as a believer to get better treatment. And, I suppose, some number of atheists might find Jesus while they're in prison. I've seen studies that correct for the latter problem by asking inmates their religion at their arrest or at the beginning of their incarceration, but I've never seen a study that explicitly tries to correct for inmates who lie.

I am asked all the time if I believe in the Big Bang, or if I believe in evolution.
Generally, the asker is shocked when I reply “no”.

Allow me to quote from Terry Pratchett’s Witches Abroad:

Most witches don’t believe in gods. They know that the gods exist, of course. They even deal with them occasionally. But they don’t believe in them. They know them too well. It would be like believing in the postman.

As for atheists being underrepresented in prisons, as much as I’d like to believe that, I’m skeptical: I suspect that what with the religiosity of the general population, and religious charities ministering to prisoners, that there’s an incentive to pose as a believer to get better treatment. And, I suppose, some number of atheists might find Jesus while they’re in prison. I’ve seen studies that correct for the latter problem by asking inmates their religion at their arrest or at the beginning of their incarceration, but I’ve never seen a study that explicitly tries to correct for inmates who lie.

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By: DJ http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/06/26/a-flawed-quiz-about-belief-i-have-no-doubt/#comment-16496 DJ Wed, 05 Jul 2006 16:30:12 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/06/26/a-flawed-quiz-about-belief-i-have-no-doubt/#comment-16496 Dr. Jennifer Hecht and Lisa Loeb: Separated at birth? Dr. Jennifer Hecht and Lisa Loeb: Separated at birth?

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By: Delance http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/06/26/a-flawed-quiz-about-belief-i-have-no-doubt/#comment-16511 Delance Mon, 03 Jul 2006 18:16:41 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/06/26/a-flawed-quiz-about-belief-i-have-no-doubt/#comment-16511 I scored as a believer. Shocking. <blockquote cite="Belief implies faith without evidence, and that does not accurately describe my attitude."> By this definition, Saint Peter didn't have a lot of faith. He denied Christ in the first chance he got on things got bad, and was skeptical about the Ressurection until he actually saw the evidence by himself. Anyway, everyone has evidence to back up their beliefs, or lack therof. It's silly to think people with different views are idiots who believe in random stuff for no good reason.</blockquote> I scored as a believer. Shocking.

By this definition, Saint Peter didn’t have a lot of faith. He denied Christ in the first chance he got on things got bad, and was skeptical about the Ressurection until he actually saw the evidence by himself.

Anyway, everyone has evidence to back up their beliefs, or lack therof. It’s silly to think people with different views are idiots who believe in random stuff for no good reason.

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By: jack Williams http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/06/26/a-flawed-quiz-about-belief-i-have-no-doubt/#comment-16526 jack Williams Sun, 02 Jul 2006 14:40:23 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/06/26/a-flawed-quiz-about-belief-i-have-no-doubt/#comment-16526 Phil said: " Belief implies faith without evidence, and that does not accurately describe my attitude." Uhm... wouldn't "Faith implies belief without evidence." be much more accurate? I DEFINATELY believe in the big bang and evolution, because of all the evidence that there is for them. A crazy christian gaving a belief in the mythical sky daddy WITHOUT evidence is called faith. They'll tell you that themselves. ----- ATHIEST: So, you believe in this god of yours, despite the lack of evidence? CHRISTIAN: Yes, I take it on faith. ----- Phil said: ” Belief implies faith without evidence, and that does not accurately describe my attitude.”

Uhm… wouldn’t “Faith implies belief without evidence.” be much more accurate? I DEFINATELY believe in the big bang and evolution, because of all the evidence that there is for them.

A crazy christian gaving a belief in the mythical sky daddy WITHOUT evidence is called faith. They’ll tell you that themselves.

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ATHIEST: So, you believe in this god of yours, despite the lack of evidence?
CHRISTIAN: Yes, I take it on faith.

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By: Irishman http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/06/26/a-flawed-quiz-about-belief-i-have-no-doubt/#comment-16498 Irishman Thu, 29 Jun 2006 21:01:31 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/06/26/a-flawed-quiz-about-belief-i-have-no-doubt/#comment-16498 BH1602 said: <blockquote>It’s interesting to me that someone wants to sub-divide people of doubt, as well. And to what end? </blockquote> I would think the point is to understand the various different philosophical underpinnings at work, the breadth of belief and unbelief, and to better understand our own beliefs. BH1602 said:

It’s interesting to me that someone wants to sub-divide people of doubt, as well. And to what end?

I would think the point is to understand the various different philosophical underpinnings at work, the breadth of belief and unbelief, and to better understand our own beliefs.

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By: Gary Ansorge http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/06/26/a-flawed-quiz-about-belief-i-have-no-doubt/#comment-16497 Gary Ansorge Thu, 29 Jun 2006 14:52:18 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/06/26/a-flawed-quiz-about-belief-i-have-no-doubt/#comment-16497 KC: Universal inflation came about when the universal Republicans had so undermined the Universal Economy that the Universal Dollar exploded,,,or,,,it was just a god fart in the false vacuum,,, Gary 7 KC:
Universal inflation came about when the universal Republicans had so undermined the Universal Economy that the Universal Dollar exploded,,,or,,,it was just a god fart in the false vacuum,,,

Gary 7

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