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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: sooran</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/07/28/blog-upgrade/comment-page-2/#comment-213690</link>
		<dc:creator>sooran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thancks 
this post very very helped me  !

Good Time</description>
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this post very very helped me  !</p>
<p>Good Time</p>
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		<title>By: Irishman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/07/28/blog-upgrade/comment-page-2/#comment-18040</link>
		<dc:creator>Irishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 22:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PK said:
&gt;As for the â€œconstant naggingâ€: If IE would support the standard features for web browsing such as CSS and MathML, I wouldnâ€™t care at all what other people use. But now I have to do bug fixing when I create a web site, because IE is years behind all the other browsers. Just give Firefox or Opera a try. Itâ€™s free, and you will probably like it.

GreyDuck Said:
&gt;As for the constant nagging: Tabbed browsing really is the beeâ€™s knees, but more importantly thereâ€™s something to be said for not using the #1 mechanism by which malware can land on your PC. Yes, itâ€™s better than it used to be, but not good enough to make me comfortable using IE for anything other than using wholly trusted sites (like our companyâ€™s in-house tools).

Great reasons why one might wish to choose browsers.  But I do a fair amount of my browsing from machines that I am not an administrator on. I cannot install software.  Yea, IT department!  So I am reduced to using what is available - IE.  And I get tired of being berated for my &quot;choice&quot;.  It&#039;s tiresome. You like tabbed browsing - great for you. Microsoft sucks. We know this.  I don&#039;t need 200 people chanting at me.  I get the picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PK said:<br />
&gt;As for the â€œconstant naggingâ€: If IE would support the standard features for web browsing such as CSS and MathML, I wouldnâ€™t care at all what other people use. But now I have to do bug fixing when I create a web site, because IE is years behind all the other browsers. Just give Firefox or Opera a try. Itâ€™s free, and you will probably like it.</p>
<p>GreyDuck Said:<br />
&gt;As for the constant nagging: Tabbed browsing really is the beeâ€™s knees, but more importantly thereâ€™s something to be said for not using the #1 mechanism by which malware can land on your PC. Yes, itâ€™s better than it used to be, but not good enough to make me comfortable using IE for anything other than using wholly trusted sites (like our companyâ€™s in-house tools).</p>
<p>Great reasons why one might wish to choose browsers.  But I do a fair amount of my browsing from machines that I am not an administrator on. I cannot install software.  Yea, IT department!  So I am reduced to using what is available &#8211; IE.  And I get tired of being berated for my &#8220;choice&#8221;.  It&#8217;s tiresome. You like tabbed browsing &#8211; great for you. Microsoft sucks. We know this.  I don&#8217;t need 200 people chanting at me.  I get the picture.</p>
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		<title>By: The Bad Astronomer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/07/28/blog-upgrade/comment-page-2/#comment-18012</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bad Astronomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 06:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a tag on the style sheet that justifies (left and right) the posts (not when they are on the main page, but just when you click on the permalink). I don&#039;t like right hand justification; I prefer &quot;ragged edge&quot;, so I commented out the line, and it centered all the text! I&#039;m not sure why; I&#039;d have to dig through all the code to figure it out. For now, I turned justification back on. It should look fine now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a tag on the style sheet that justifies (left and right) the posts (not when they are on the main page, but just when you click on the permalink). I don&#8217;t like right hand justification; I prefer &#8220;ragged edge&#8221;, so I commented out the line, and it centered all the text! I&#8217;m not sure why; I&#8217;d have to dig through all the code to figure it out. For now, I turned justification back on. It should look fine now.</p>
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		<title>By: BMurray</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/07/28/blog-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-18039</link>
		<dc:creator>BMurray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The body text of your main post and, oddly, the reply form are centered.  They shouldn&#039;t be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The body text of your main post and, oddly, the reply form are centered.  They shouldn&#8217;t be.</p>
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		<title>By: icemith</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/07/28/blog-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-18055</link>
		<dc:creator>icemith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I concur with the other Safari users, it looks good now,(except I have not found the Preview button). And the small font presentation is easily varied by use of the  buttons, and the rendering is only for the text and only within the same width, which I like as I dislike overly long lines - makes it too hard to read as the same line gets read twice otherwise, well at least the first couple of words anyway. Any graphic or photo is not varied, and there are now no big blank spaces.

 Not sure what the fuss is about &quot;tabs&quot;, as it seems logical to have another window opened, and further windows even as a link is followed, and when these are dismissed, the parent window is still there to continue, or whatever. With that in mind, how would I gain anything by opening in a tab?

I followed &#039;The_Decryptor&#039;&#039;s suggested link for &#039;imageshack&#039;, and found a very slow loading, small fonted, wide presentation. Not too nice. But why would that happen? Are some people actually using that form, and do they not know that it can be so much better, or is it sour grapes?

Curiously I wondered what would happen if I followed Handy Solo&#039;s suggested link, but on seeing it I realised there was no point in generating a Safari rendering on what is already a Safari presentation. Doh! It&#039;s only for non-Safari users, though it does seem not a simple exercise to see how it would turn out - though not too hard either.

Iv&#039;e just had a look at the link provided by Kaustav, above, for &#039;astrolondon&#039;. I find it quite straightforward and simple to use. Mind you, I did not go too far into the various topics, though I did check the podcast which started straight away. Buffering is problaby my fault as it hesitated soon after, then played a few more seconds. I then elected to download the 14 minute podcast which was slow but I can listen to it later. Clicking on the &#039;about&#039; tag at the top of the page, dropped down a pane which is really an &#039;about me and my site&#039; display, complete with photo and URLs.

Quite effective. However there is a dearth of topics available, and the latest is months old, though it may be only a sample. I did not see the instruction to submit a URL so that it would respond with a Safari rendition. That seems to be what the aforementioned Handy Solo link was to do. Maybe I missed it.

Over the last couple of months, I did notice three other things though. The first was the message if a &#039;double send&#039; of the comment was  detected, and without doing anything, (save clicking off of it - this may be all that is necessary anyway), there is only one actual post. That is what it is all about - simplicity.

The second issue is that extra long URLs tend to not wraparound as normal text does, it just goes on into, or more correctly under, the right hand column. And the type-in box in the ad for the daily updates, just under Phil&#039;s photo, also extends too far beyond the border. Examples of both can be found in the above blog, so there is at least one bug to zap.

Another issue has to do with this comment box. I like to use the &#039;page up/down&#039; button, which used to work, but recently, and even now since the new version, even as I type this, the page button does a double-page shift, (in this box) and I have to chase it with the scroll button. (I will check further in case it is a wider problem in my Mac, but I don&#039;t think so.)

Phew, Phil ... well, you asked!

Ivan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concur with the other Safari users, it looks good now,(except I have not found the Preview button). And the small font presentation is easily varied by use of the  buttons, and the rendering is only for the text and only within the same width, which I like as I dislike overly long lines &#8211; makes it too hard to read as the same line gets read twice otherwise, well at least the first couple of words anyway. Any graphic or photo is not varied, and there are now no big blank spaces.</p>
<p> Not sure what the fuss is about &#8220;tabs&#8221;, as it seems logical to have another window opened, and further windows even as a link is followed, and when these are dismissed, the parent window is still there to continue, or whatever. With that in mind, how would I gain anything by opening in a tab?</p>
<p>I followed &#8216;The_Decryptor&#8221;s suggested link for &#8216;imageshack&#8217;, and found a very slow loading, small fonted, wide presentation. Not too nice. But why would that happen? Are some people actually using that form, and do they not know that it can be so much better, or is it sour grapes?</p>
<p>Curiously I wondered what would happen if I followed Handy Solo&#8217;s suggested link, but on seeing it I realised there was no point in generating a Safari rendering on what is already a Safari presentation. Doh! It&#8217;s only for non-Safari users, though it does seem not a simple exercise to see how it would turn out &#8211; though not too hard either.</p>
<p>Iv&#8217;e just had a look at the link provided by Kaustav, above, for &#8216;astrolondon&#8217;. I find it quite straightforward and simple to use. Mind you, I did not go too far into the various topics, though I did check the podcast which started straight away. Buffering is problaby my fault as it hesitated soon after, then played a few more seconds. I then elected to download the 14 minute podcast which was slow but I can listen to it later. Clicking on the &#8216;about&#8217; tag at the top of the page, dropped down a pane which is really an &#8216;about me and my site&#8217; display, complete with photo and URLs.</p>
<p>Quite effective. However there is a dearth of topics available, and the latest is months old, though it may be only a sample. I did not see the instruction to submit a URL so that it would respond with a Safari rendition. That seems to be what the aforementioned Handy Solo link was to do. Maybe I missed it.</p>
<p>Over the last couple of months, I did notice three other things though. The first was the message if a &#8216;double send&#8217; of the comment was  detected, and without doing anything, (save clicking off of it &#8211; this may be all that is necessary anyway), there is only one actual post. That is what it is all about &#8211; simplicity.</p>
<p>The second issue is that extra long URLs tend to not wraparound as normal text does, it just goes on into, or more correctly under, the right hand column. And the type-in box in the ad for the daily updates, just under Phil&#8217;s photo, also extends too far beyond the border. Examples of both can be found in the above blog, so there is at least one bug to zap.</p>
<p>Another issue has to do with this comment box. I like to use the &#8216;page up/down&#8217; button, which used to work, but recently, and even now since the new version, even as I type this, the page button does a double-page shift, (in this box) and I have to chase it with the scroll button. (I will check further in case it is a wider problem in my Mac, but I don&#8217;t think so.)</p>
<p>Phew, Phil &#8230; well, you asked!</p>
<p>Ivan.</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/07/28/blog-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-18057</link>
		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I adore windows and as a programmer I&#039;m in awe of what microsoft created. However, I have to say for the most part Microsoft products are always pretty much ho hum and the only reason they are the most popular is market penetration.  Obviously this includes IE which compared to firefox looks very dry and the features aren&#039;t there, security is another issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I adore windows and as a programmer I&#8217;m in awe of what microsoft created. However, I have to say for the most part Microsoft products are always pretty much ho hum and the only reason they are the most popular is market penetration.  Obviously this includes IE which compared to firefox looks very dry and the features aren&#8217;t there, security is another issue.</p>
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		<title>By: TravisM</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/07/28/blog-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-18056</link>
		<dc:creator>TravisM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about the double post, but the above post was supposed to be for the Craknocentrism entry... Sorry again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about the double post, but the above post was supposed to be for the Craknocentrism entry&#8230; Sorry again!</p>
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		<title>By: TravisM</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/07/28/blog-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-18048</link>
		<dc:creator>TravisM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t read most of these comments, but what about the Messenger spacecraft fly-by showing the earth spinning below it? How would this fellah make that jive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t read most of these comments, but what about the Messenger spacecraft fly-by showing the earth spinning below it? How would this fellah make that jive?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Siefert</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/07/28/blog-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-18058</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Siefert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed it has!

Only now, the boxes under &quot;leave a Reply&quot; are no longer aligned, but this could be an artistic choice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed it has!</p>
<p>Only now, the boxes under &#8220;leave a Reply&#8221; are no longer aligned, but this could be an artistic choice?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Siefert</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/07/28/blog-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-18059</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Siefert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just commenting to check if the error message has disappeared.</description>
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		<title>By: Roy Batty</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/07/28/blog-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-18063</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Batty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and everything is loading &amp; looking great in Firefox &amp; IE for me. Even that annoying page of error messages when posting a reply has gone now :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and everything is loading &amp; looking great in Firefox &amp; IE for me. Even that annoying page of error messages when posting a reply has gone now <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Roy Batty</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/07/28/blog-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-18062</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Batty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why you wouldn&#039;t want a Mac:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-773770276749807883
:) &amp; Btw this guy actually uses them so he should know what he&#039;s ranting about :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why you wouldn&#8217;t want a Mac:<br />
<a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-773770276749807883" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-773770276749807883</a> <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  &amp; Btw this guy actually uses them so he should know what he&#8217;s ranting about <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kaustav Bhattacharya</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/07/28/blog-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-18061</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaustav Bhattacharya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 10:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear, I forgot to actually paste in the URL on my previous post:

http://www.snugtech.com/safaritest/



Hi there,
You can use the following web site to remotely test your page on Safari.  You simply type in a URL, choose the screen size you want to test with and submit the form. The web site then send the URL to a permanently connected Mac running Safari, it takes a screen grab and then sends it back to you via the web page immediately. It&#039;s pretty good and for real! :-)

http://www.snugtech.com/safaritest/

Kaustav
http://astrolondon.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear, I forgot to actually paste in the URL on my previous post:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.snugtech.com/safaritest/" rel="nofollow">http://www.snugtech.com/safaritest/</a></p>
<p>Hi there,<br />
You can use the following web site to remotely test your page on Safari.  You simply type in a URL, choose the screen size you want to test with and submit the form. The web site then send the URL to a permanently connected Mac running Safari, it takes a screen grab and then sends it back to you via the web page immediately. It&#8217;s pretty good and for real! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.snugtech.com/safaritest/" rel="nofollow">http://www.snugtech.com/safaritest/</a></p>
<p>Kaustav<br />
<a href="http://astrolondon.com/" rel="nofollow">http://astrolondon.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kaustav Bhattacharya</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/07/28/blog-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-18060</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaustav Bhattacharya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 10:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there,
You can use the following web site to remotely test your page on Safari.  You simply type in a URL, choose the screen size you want to test with and submit the form. The web site then send the URL to a permanently connected Mac running Safari, it takes a screen grab and then sends it back to you via the web page immediately. It&#039;s pretty good and for real! :-)

Kaustav
http://astrolondon.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there,<br />
You can use the following web site to remotely test your page on Safari.  You simply type in a URL, choose the screen size you want to test with and submit the form. The web site then send the URL to a permanently connected Mac running Safari, it takes a screen grab and then sends it back to you via the web page immediately. It&#8217;s pretty good and for real! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Kaustav<br />
<a href="http://astrolondon.com/" rel="nofollow">http://astrolondon.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/07/28/blog-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-18028</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never saw what was so great about Macs either.  Not since using RISCOS on a proper computer.  You know, one with system architecture that actually indicates intelligent design.  Oh, no, hang on a sec, that was a can of worms I just opened there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never saw what was so great about Macs either.  Not since using RISCOS on a proper computer.  You know, one with system architecture that actually indicates intelligent design.  Oh, no, hang on a sec, that was a can of worms I just opened there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/07/28/blog-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-18027</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 05:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lorne-
I use Macs and PCs equally, and find about the same (although different) likes and dislikes with each. Then again, people always said I was weird. I&#039;ve always found the &quot;cult of Mac&quot; mildly disturbing, although OS X beats the heck out of Linux if you need to run UNIX based code and still want to have a decent front-end. (Sorry to all you Linux users, I had a bad experience).

Oh, and I&#039;m glad to see the page finally looks normal again in Safari.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lorne-<br />
I use Macs and PCs equally, and find about the same (although different) likes and dislikes with each. Then again, people always said I was weird. I&#8217;ve always found the &#8220;cult of Mac&#8221; mildly disturbing, although OS X beats the heck out of Linux if you need to run UNIX based code and still want to have a decent front-end. (Sorry to all you Linux users, I had a bad experience).</p>
<p>Oh, and I&#8217;m glad to see the page finally looks normal again in Safari.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorne Ipsum</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/07/28/blog-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-18030</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorne Ipsum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 03:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and another thing -- I&#039;m still getting errors when I submit a comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and another thing &#8212; I&#8217;m still getting errors when I submit a comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorne Ipsum</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/07/28/blog-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-18029</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorne Ipsum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 03:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B.A.,

I&#039;ve tried this page on every browser I&#039;ve got (Safari, Firefox, Camino, OmniWeb; all on a Mac), and it&#039;s displaying correctly on all of them.

As for WordPress, well, if you ever decide to switch to a Mac, there are some DRAMATICALLY easier ways to go.  And you know what they say -- once you go Mac, you&#039;ll never go back.

Lorne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B.A.,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tried this page on every browser I&#8217;ve got (Safari, Firefox, Camino, OmniWeb; all on a Mac), and it&#8217;s displaying correctly on all of them.</p>
<p>As for WordPress, well, if you ever decide to switch to a Mac, there are some DRAMATICALLY easier ways to go.  And you know what they say &#8212; once you go Mac, you&#8217;ll never go back.</p>
<p>Lorne</p>
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		<title>By: The Bad Astronomer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/07/28/blog-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-18026</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bad Astronomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 23:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Squid, I spent years concentrating on the substance on this site, and to be brutally honest sites need some flashiness to get spotted. I could just make this all text and inlined images, y&#039;know! But there must be some attention paid to the form as well. That&#039;s why I have a limited three column layout, for example. Navigation and ease-of-use depend critically on form. Alternating the colors of the background in the comments makes them easier to read. The grey borders separate various sections. And so on.

I also just added &quot;Add this entry to: digg.com reddit.com del.icio.is&quot; as well. I&#039;ll probably talk about that in a separate entry later this week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Squid, I spent years concentrating on the substance on this site, and to be brutally honest sites need some flashiness to get spotted. I could just make this all text and inlined images, y&#8217;know! But there must be some attention paid to the form as well. That&#8217;s why I have a limited three column layout, for example. Navigation and ease-of-use depend critically on form. Alternating the colors of the background in the comments makes them easier to read. The grey borders separate various sections. And so on.</p>
<p>I also just added &#8220;Add this entry to: digg.com reddit.com del.icio.is&#8221; as well. I&#8217;ll probably talk about that in a separate entry later this week.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Fagin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/07/28/blog-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-18031</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Fagin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 23:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a safari user and everything looks fine.  Great job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a safari user and everything looks fine.  Great job!</p>
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		<title>By: PK</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/07/28/blog-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-18035</link>
		<dc:creator>PK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 23:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evolving Squid, I agree. That&#039;s why I write my stuff in php with style sheets. Pity IE6 does not fully support them. Hence the hacking...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evolving Squid, I agree. That&#8217;s why I write my stuff in php with style sheets. Pity IE6 does not fully support them. Hence the hacking&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Smith</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/07/28/blog-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-18033</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 23:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s right Phil, it seems the !important in &quot;margin-left: 713px!important;&quot; is throwing it out another 713 pixels, removing !important makes it appear correctly, but in Firefox it makes the sidebar fall to the left of the page.

Also happens in IE7 Beta 3 on Win XP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s right Phil, it seems the !important in &#8220;margin-left: 713px!important;&#8221; is throwing it out another 713 pixels, removing !important makes it appear correctly, but in Firefox it makes the sidebar fall to the left of the page.</p>
<p>Also happens in IE7 Beta 3 on Win XP.</p>
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		<title>By: Evolving Squid</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/07/28/blog-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-18032</link>
		<dc:creator>Evolving Squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 22:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, if web site designers would stick to standard code, concentrating on the conveying of information, rather than on making a flashy, pretty display that looks just-so, the whole issue of what browser to use would be moot.

That is to say, less form, more substance.

Frankly, I miss the Lynx days. I&#039;d love to see: No Java, almost no javascript; a meteor strike on every Shockwave/Flash development; and everyone who puts frames on their page condemned to sit in a room with animated rainbow gifs for walls and blink-tagged text all over everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, if web site designers would stick to standard code, concentrating on the conveying of information, rather than on making a flashy, pretty display that looks just-so, the whole issue of what browser to use would be moot.</p>
<p>That is to say, less form, more substance.</p>
<p>Frankly, I miss the Lynx days. I&#8217;d love to see: No Java, almost no javascript; a meteor strike on every Shockwave/Flash development; and everyone who puts frames on their page condemned to sit in a room with animated rainbow gifs for walls and blink-tagged text all over everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Elyk</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/07/28/blog-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-18034</link>
		<dc:creator>Elyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 21:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firefox does the ctrl+mousewheel up/down to change font size...Opera is sorta outdated isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firefox does the ctrl+mousewheel up/down to change font size&#8230;Opera is sorta outdated isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: The Bad Astronomer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/07/28/blog-upgrade/comment-page-1/#comment-18037</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bad Astronomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 21:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, you mean the right hand sidebar?

Given that IE7 and Vista are not officially out yet, I&#039;m not too concerned. :-) Probelm is, of course, that half my readers will be using that eventually. Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, you mean the right hand sidebar?</p>
<p>Given that IE7 and Vista are not officially out yet, I&#8217;m not too concerned. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Probelm is, of course, that half my readers will be using that eventually. Sigh.</p>
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