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	<title>Comments on: Neo-con twist on Xena Eris</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: I wish it aint true</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/14/neo-con-twist-on-xena-eris/comment-page-2/#comment-20656</link>
		<dc:creator>I wish it aint true</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 10:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the thing i heard bout this planet eris thing was it had 3 different names first planet x then nibiru then next thing is eris man.. why don&#039;t they give it a stable name other planets got their stabled names first time people saw it so im thinkin just thinkin what if they coudn&#039;t give it a permanet name why? cause it just popped out of nowhere and basically it&#039;s not a planet of this solar system doesn&#039;t that tell you something? meanin it could come close to earth hit or pass earth and some people say it would cause a pole shiftif it passes earth..  I dunno what that means but they say if that happens 90% people could possibly die this are the thing i just read in the net well just keepin an open mind here hope it doesn&#039;t happen and wish there really ain&#039;t no conspiracy goin on..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the thing i heard bout this planet eris thing was it had 3 different names first planet x then nibiru then next thing is eris man.. why don&#8217;t they give it a stable name other planets got their stabled names first time people saw it so im thinkin just thinkin what if they coudn&#8217;t give it a permanet name why? cause it just popped out of nowhere and basically it&#8217;s not a planet of this solar system doesn&#8217;t that tell you something? meanin it could come close to earth hit or pass earth and some people say it would cause a pole shiftif it passes earth..  I dunno what that means but they say if that happens 90% people could possibly die this are the thing i just read in the net well just keepin an open mind here hope it doesn&#8217;t happen and wish there really ain&#8217;t no conspiracy goin on..</p>
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		<title>By: Astrolink [Global Edition] &#187; News: Eris more massive than Pluto! &#124; Latest astronomy news in 11 languages</title>
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		<dc:creator>Astrolink [Global Edition] &#187; News: Eris more massive than Pluto! &#124; Latest astronomy news in 11 languages</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] long it takes the moon to orbit Eris, the mass of Eris can be found. Mike Brown from Caltech (that evul librul who discovered Eris), and his grad student Emily Schaller, determined Eris to have a mass of 1.66 x [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] long it takes the moon to orbit Eris, the mass of Eris can be found. Mike Brown from Caltech (that evul librul who discovered Eris), and his grad student Emily Schaller, determined Eris to have a mass of 1.66 x [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Bad Astronomer</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Bad Astronomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, I did not check out Mike Janitch&#039;s web stats before posting. While it&#039;s interesting, it&#039;s not that material an argument. The fact is, he has that opinion, and his brand of nonsense isn&#039;t any different form that of people who &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; have a loud voice, like Coulter and Malkin. I generally don&#039;t waste my time with smaller issues in pseudo or antiscience because I don&#039;t have the time to waste-- there are millions more out there, and only so many minutes in the day. But this one was too funny and ridiculous not to point out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, I did not check out Mike Janitch&#8217;s web stats before posting. While it&#8217;s interesting, it&#8217;s not that material an argument. The fact is, he has that opinion, and his brand of nonsense isn&#8217;t any different form that of people who <i>do</i> have a loud voice, like Coulter and Malkin. I generally don&#8217;t waste my time with smaller issues in pseudo or antiscience because I don&#8217;t have the time to waste&#8211; there are millions more out there, and only so many minutes in the day. But this one was too funny and ridiculous not to point out.</p>
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		<title>By: Mungascr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mungascr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 15:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh.

Spelling errors.

BA : the one web change I&#039;d like to see here more than anything else  is giving us the ability to edit these posts!

For the record &amp; in case anyone hasn&#039;t picked it -  my &quot;Xena = gay activist conspiracy theory&quot;  was indeed intended as tongue in cheek.

If you look hard enough and warp your thinking badly enough you can come up with almost any rubbish about why people name things as they do.

The post above was meant to illustrate that and poke fun at the Right-Wingers take on a &quot;liberal&quot; scientists conspiracy by taking tehsame idea sand showing a totally different way of looking at it. Sadly, now I think about it; those easily led are all too likely to take it seriously.

Sigh.</description>
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<p>Spelling errors.</p>
<p>BA : the one web change I&#8217;d like to see here more than anything else  is giving us the ability to edit these posts!</p>
<p>For the record &amp; in case anyone hasn&#8217;t picked it &#8211;  my &#8220;Xena = gay activist conspiracy theory&#8221;  was indeed intended as tongue in cheek.</p>
<p>If you look hard enough and warp your thinking badly enough you can come up with almost any rubbish about why people name things as they do.</p>
<p>The post above was meant to illustrate that and poke fun at the Right-Wingers take on a &#8220;liberal&#8221; scientists conspiracy by taking tehsame idea sand showing a totally different way of looking at it. Sadly, now I think about it; those easily led are all too likely to take it seriously.</p>
<p>Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Mungascr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mungascr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 15:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shock, horror, conspiracy!

The original Xena was a lesbian icon! The moon, Gabrielle, was named after her adventuring (and bed-related?) partner!

Clearly Mike Brown was a gay activist!

Renaming it Eris  wa s adeliberate move of the intoler~rany Bible-Bashing bigoted rRightwing to rob us of a lebian planet! Stripping Pluto of aits planetary status was just another part of this anti-gay conspiracy .. After all keeping plutio would have meant  adding a planet -moon pairing representing gaymarriage and implying that&#039;s alright!  (Oh no I said stripping Net nanny will now bar this site! My comments will be blocked! ;-) We&#039;ll all be censored!)

Get some perspective here puh-leeze!

Personally, I blame it all on the Puritan(~ical) Fathers - a more sexually repressed, narrow-minded bunch of fundamentalists, and a worse choice of people to found a nation on you couldn&#039;t find. :-(

(You know I&#039;m actually quite serious about that last point - A nation that froths at the mouth when Janet Jackson inadvertantly exposed _part_ of one breast but shrugged its shoulders at a hereditary &quot;President&quot; + lying his nation into a needless and utterly counter-productive war is a very messed-up nation with a very bad &quot;childhood&quot; indeed.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shock, horror, conspiracy!</p>
<p>The original Xena was a lesbian icon! The moon, Gabrielle, was named after her adventuring (and bed-related?) partner!</p>
<p>Clearly Mike Brown was a gay activist!</p>
<p>Renaming it Eris  wa s adeliberate move of the intoler~rany Bible-Bashing bigoted rRightwing to rob us of a lebian planet! Stripping Pluto of aits planetary status was just another part of this anti-gay conspiracy .. After all keeping plutio would have meant  adding a planet -moon pairing representing gaymarriage and implying that&#8217;s alright!  (Oh no I said stripping Net nanny will now bar this site! My comments will be blocked! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  We&#8217;ll all be censored!)</p>
<p>Get some perspective here puh-leeze!</p>
<p>Personally, I blame it all on the Puritan(~ical) Fathers &#8211; a more sexually repressed, narrow-minded bunch of fundamentalists, and a worse choice of people to found a nation on you couldn&#8217;t find. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(You know I&#8217;m actually quite serious about that last point &#8211; A nation that froths at the mouth when Janet Jackson inadvertantly exposed _part_ of one breast but shrugged its shoulders at a hereditary &#8220;President&#8221; + lying his nation into a needless and utterly counter-productive war is a very messed-up nation with a very bad &#8220;childhood&#8221; indeed.)</p>
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		<title>By: skeptigirl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/14/neo-con-twist-on-xena-eris/comment-page-2/#comment-20591</link>
		<dc:creator>skeptigirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 09:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I apologize for the split comments but it was the only way the web site would accept the post. And it did not allow me to insert one of the paragraphs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize for the split comments but it was the only way the web site would accept the post. And it did not allow me to insert one of the paragraphs.</p>
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		<title>By: skeptigirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>skeptigirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 09:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>comments continued from above

Every scientists who distorts research outcomes does not attack the credibility of the scientific process. Everyone is not out there referring to science as a liberal and therefore negative entity. But certain people are. They have not been able to find the scientific evidence they want to find, so they make claims such as, science is just someone else&#039;s religion. Others make statements suggesting everyone is distorting the evidence therefore science is really unable to resolve a question like, &quot;Are humans impacting the global climate?&quot;

Those tactics call into question the validity and reliability of the scientific process. It is a subtle attack, it goes unnoticed. Then it surfaces as a belief science is just one set of beliefs among many, not qualitatively different. It surfaces as a belief scientists are predominantly liberals so all of science can be expected to favor liberal ideas rather than expecting the scientific process to favor the evidence. Or it surfaces as a belief all research outcomes are politically biased if they involve a political issue therefore one cannot use the scientific process to resolve a question with political implications.

None of those beliefs accurately reflect true science and the majority of the skeptical scientific community. All of those beliefs are spreading. The bogger in this case is reflecting a wider and growing opinion and it does need to be addressed, even if it is merely pointing out a single straw in a camel&#039;s load.</description>
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<p>Every scientists who distorts research outcomes does not attack the credibility of the scientific process. Everyone is not out there referring to science as a liberal and therefore negative entity. But certain people are. They have not been able to find the scientific evidence they want to find, so they make claims such as, science is just someone else&#8217;s religion. Others make statements suggesting everyone is distorting the evidence therefore science is really unable to resolve a question like, &#8220;Are humans impacting the global climate?&#8221;</p>
<p>Those tactics call into question the validity and reliability of the scientific process. It is a subtle attack, it goes unnoticed. Then it surfaces as a belief science is just one set of beliefs among many, not qualitatively different. It surfaces as a belief scientists are predominantly liberals so all of science can be expected to favor liberal ideas rather than expecting the scientific process to favor the evidence. Or it surfaces as a belief all research outcomes are politically biased if they involve a political issue therefore one cannot use the scientific process to resolve a question with political implications.</p>
<p>None of those beliefs accurately reflect true science and the majority of the skeptical scientific community. All of those beliefs are spreading. The bogger in this case is reflecting a wider and growing opinion and it does need to be addressed, even if it is merely pointing out a single straw in a camel&#8217;s load.</p>
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