Comments on: Crop circle failure http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/17/crop-circle-failure/ I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog. Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:11:39 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Red Collie http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/17/crop-circle-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-210596 Red Collie Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:25:58 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/17/crop-circle-failure/#comment-210596 Since this original blog was posted in 2006, there have been several well-documented multi-witness sightings by independent camera crews, of large and complex crop pictures forming silently in a field where no humans were detectably present, whether by visible or infrared light. The two most well-known cases were East Field of July 7, 2007 and Silbury Hill of July 5, 2009. Since I have spoken to both groups of witnesses, and was able to confirm that they were quite relaible people, then simple logic compels me to believe that some quiet, invisible energy made both of those crop pictures. While my wife and I visited England one month ago, two large crop pictures appeared seemingly in early morning daylight, while another appeared after a night of cold, wet rain. All of tho direct observational evidence now suggests, therefore, that the basic theses of this post and of "Discover" magazine (the name seems like a contradiction in terms) are both outdated and wrong. In fact, it has now become a kind of intelligence test, to see whether the typical bloggger can think independently from his herd? So far, only a few have passed. Since this original blog was posted in 2006, there have been several well-documented multi-witness sightings by independent camera crews, of large and complex crop pictures forming silently in a field where no humans were detectably present, whether by visible or infrared light.
The two most well-known cases were East Field of July 7, 2007 and Silbury Hill of July 5, 2009. Since I have spoken to both groups of witnesses, and was able to confirm that they were quite relaible people, then simple logic compels me to believe that some quiet, invisible energy made both of those crop pictures.
While my wife and I visited England one month ago, two large crop pictures appeared seemingly in early morning daylight, while another appeared after a night of cold, wet rain. All of tho direct observational evidence now suggests, therefore, that the basic theses of this post and of “Discover” magazine (the name seems like a contradiction in terms) are both outdated and wrong. In fact, it has now become a kind of intelligence test, to see whether the typical bloggger can think independently from his herd? So far, only a few have passed.

]]> By: Fools Gold http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/17/crop-circle-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-208218 Fools Gold Sun, 23 Aug 2009 03:31:16 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/17/crop-circle-failure/#comment-208218 The conceit and ignorance on display here is astounding but entirely expected. Places like this are where the insecure gather . A place where they can let their superiority complex run wild and feel secure without the need for any real discourse or intelligent insight as you are not here to learn or understand but feed your complex. If some of you did any research at all you would know that there is a reason that 20% are unexplained - that is that no hoaxer/debunker has ever been able to reproduce the characteristics exhibited in these examples. That does not mean all crop circles are not Man made but it does not mean that they definitely are Man made either. It is worthy of investigation certainly and whether crop circles are Man made or not they are certainly things of beauty. Even the most fundamental things such as Life, consciousness and the nature of reality itself are complete mysteries to even our greatest minds but here we have people who know the answer to everything and everything is mundane. Thank God all humanity is not so trapped we would still be in the dark ages not daring to believe there may be things exist as yet unexplained. Perhaps a little light reading on quantum mechanics might help expand some of your minds. There are experiments with outcomes that would literally blow your minds. I will leave you with this pertinent thought; The paradox is that a sceptic is far more likely to accept a believable lie than an unbelievable truth. Question everything and discount nothing, your World will be unrecognisable just a couple of decades from now. The conceit and ignorance on display here is astounding but entirely expected.
Places like this are where the insecure gather .
A place where they can let their superiority complex run wild and feel secure without the need for any real discourse or intelligent insight as you are not here to learn or understand but feed your complex.

If some of you did any research at all you would know that there is a reason that 20% are unexplained – that is that no hoaxer/debunker has ever been able to reproduce the characteristics exhibited in these examples.

That does not mean all crop circles are not Man made but it does not mean that they definitely are Man made either.
It is worthy of investigation certainly and whether crop circles are Man made or not they are certainly things of beauty.

Even the most fundamental things such as Life, consciousness and the nature of reality itself are complete mysteries to even our greatest minds but here we have people who know the answer to everything and everything is mundane.
Thank God all humanity is not so trapped we would still be in the dark ages not daring to believe there may be things exist as yet unexplained.

Perhaps a little light reading on quantum mechanics might help expand some of your minds.
There are experiments with outcomes that would literally blow your minds.

I will leave you with this pertinent thought;

The paradox is that a sceptic is far more likely to accept a believable lie than an unbelievable truth.

Question everything and discount nothing, your World will be unrecognisable just a couple of decades from now.

]]> By: Dan http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/17/crop-circle-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-203223 Dan Sun, 02 Aug 2009 18:17:26 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/17/crop-circle-failure/#comment-203223 The aliens are landing on our beaches! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1202491/Race-tide-Artist-creates-intricate-masterpieces--sea-washes-away-hours.html The aliens are landing on our beaches!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1202491/Race-tide-Artist-creates-intricate-masterpieces–sea-washes-away-hours.html

]]> By: peter345 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/17/crop-circle-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-140349 peter345 Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:25:46 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/17/crop-circle-failure/#comment-140349 ps, Im sorry, I shouldn't have called you kooks, I was just in one of those moods... The rest stands.. ps, Im sorry, I shouldn’t have called you kooks, I was just in one of those moods… The rest stands..

]]> By: peter345 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/17/crop-circle-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-140162 peter345 Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:18:32 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/17/crop-circle-failure/#comment-140162 What a bunch of ignorant kooks most of these posters are ! ! I guess thats what to expect in a society manipulated by a contrived Scientific Theocracy , Obviously nobody here has done a Shred of research because they can't see beyond their pre conceived limited mind sets and present weak straw man arguments and statements that make them feel all nice and secure in their scientific ideology-Obviously their are no historians of science here and nobody capable of asking the right questions so that human consciousness may evolve , you all wallow in you self appointed roles as gatekeepers of a consensus reality, When in fact you are so far from understanding fundamental reality that it is a comedy of errors of galactic proportions..... How quaint....... What a bunch of ignorant kooks most of these posters are ! ! I guess thats what to expect in a society manipulated by a contrived Scientific Theocracy , Obviously nobody here has done a Shred of research because they can’t see beyond their pre conceived limited mind sets and present weak straw man arguments and statements that make them feel all nice and secure in their scientific ideology-Obviously their are no historians of science here and nobody capable of asking the right questions so that human consciousness may evolve , you all wallow in you self appointed roles as gatekeepers of a consensus reality, When in fact you are so far from understanding fundamental reality that it is a comedy of errors of galactic proportions…..

How quaint…….

]]> By: Senua http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/17/crop-circle-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-20709 Senua Tue, 19 Sep 2006 09:14:00 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/17/crop-circle-failure/#comment-20709 My brother used to help make some in Wiltshire: This is one he helped make back in 2001: http://www.gaiaguys.net/Milk%20Hill%2001.jpg I remember watching a programme on crop circles which showed this one. They claimed it couldn't have been made by humans. Either angels or aliens did it. I asked my brother which one he was. My brother used to help make some in Wiltshire:
This is one he helped make back in 2001:

http://www.gaiaguys.net/Milk%20Hill%2001.jpg

I remember watching a programme on crop circles which showed this one.
They claimed it couldn’t have been made by humans.
Either angels or aliens did it.
I asked my brother which one he was.

]]> By: Geroge http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/17/crop-circle-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-20710 Geroge Tue, 19 Sep 2006 04:09:02 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/09/17/crop-circle-failure/#comment-20710 How much of the news is active in crop circles.....meaning, the cash crop circles. How much of the news is active in crop circles…..meaning, the cash crop circles.

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